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tinman_96 said:
I know this is putting more salt on the wound...
I was just a kid when Peterson was being recruited. Can someone give me the story what happened with him and Miami? I've seen posters say his dad pimped him out to L$U.
It would be appreciated, Thanks.
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The story on Canespace was LSU boosters gave him $60K to come.
 
weownfsu said:
He committed early along with Brandon Washington and one other guy. Like shortly after signing day in 2007.

When he committed, he was a big name in South Florida but not nationally. The following summer, his dad started taking him around to all these random camps to show him off (i.e., to get paid) and that's where he really blew up. He went to USC and I think named USC his leader while a UM commit, lol. Also went to camp at Texas A&M. At that point, most people started thinking that he wasn't just playing the game but was looking for the highest bidder. It made no sense that a kid from South Florida, who was committed to UM and had offers from everyone by that point, would be going to camps at schools like TAMU. It was absurdly obvious that he was beings hopped. He kept claiming he was committed to UM but it became clear he wasn't going to UM. Took a visit to LSU, kept mentioning LSU--LSU was the high bidder. It's really not even a question.

A few years later, a Texas A&M coach said on the record that he was told they had to beat like $85,000 for Patrick Johnson/Peterson. Of course, nothing happened to LSU. Willie Lyles asked Texas A&M for $80K to sign recruit Patrick Peterson
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They were one of the schools under the old paradigm, like Alabama that could engage in enhanced recruiting. While most other schools were fodder for NCAA investigations and sanctions if they tried to level up.
 
tinman_96 said:
I know this is putting more salt on the wound...
I was just a kid when Peterson was being recruited. Can someone give me the story what happened with him and Miami? I've seen posters say his dad pimped him out to L$U.
It would be appreciated, Thanks.
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Who the F cares?! that’s the past and doesn’t matter, what is the point of even bringing it up? SMH
 
canadianhurricane said:
IIRC, Bowe was all set to sign with UM and then shocked everyone by deciding to go to LSU,where his HS coach (former UM OC James Coley) was offered a GA position.
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IIRC his grandma also got a house in the deal.

I mean if we wanna take about guys we could have had, gotta mention JJ Watt. He went as far going on the Miami website and filling out an interested prospect queetionaire for the Larry Coker football camp. The program was so cheap they couldn’t even mail him back a pamphlet.

Crazy thing was like a 1-2 years later we signed a DE from Wisconsin who had similar measurables to Watt but nowhere near the same talent/ability. Rhyan something.
 
Trafficante said:
Thank u for elaborating & providing your reasoning; I appreciate it. U definitely make some strong pts & a case for Pat being an all-time great.



Yes, I agree that longevity should be taken into consideration when determining a player's greatness in fb, but should it matter more than his peak & accolades? If 2 players are comparable in terms of their peak & accolades, then other factors should definitely be weighed to determine who's better.



I agree with the criteria you've outlined here. The reason why I would place Revis above Pat, is that Revis's peak during the Revis island yrs is greater than what Pat was able to reach at any pt during his career. Revis in 09' put forth arguably the greatest season ever for a CB, & was without question robbed of a DPOY award, even though I'm a Charles Woodson fan. During this season, his impact was why the Jets fielded the no.1 overall Defense, and made it to the AFC championship with Mark Sanchez @ QB. He accomplished the following:

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Revis also has more all-pro selections & a SB win on his resume, despite playing 3 less yrs because 1 was cut short due to injury. Also, the longevity argument is tricky because Pat was found guilty & served a suspension for using PEDs & a masking agent in 19'; which raises questions about whether he was using them at other pts in his career.

www.nbcsports.com

PED suspension should have excluded Patrick Peterson from all-decade team

The NFL unveiled its latest team of the decade on Monday.
www.nbcsports.com www.nbcsports.com

As for who's more fundamentally sound: in my humble opinion I would say it's probably a wash.
Both are fundamentally sound CBs who excel in playing press-man coverage, & throughout their careers have routinely taken the assignment of guarding the opposing team's no.1 WR.

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I got Revis over all, never seen a cb with every trait in his peek. I don’t like the jets but he was a menace
 
Trafficante said:
Not all PEDs are meant to increase power output & strength. Many are taken to improve an athlete's endurance & recovery; which obviously can have have a positive correlation on an athlete's longevity.

Blood doping - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
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Bingo. The NFL and NBA are full of HGH and performance enhancers. The guys just know how to cycle on and off now. Ped’s are all about recovery and endurance. Which is huge in a long season.
 
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Cribby said:
Bingo. The NFL and NBA are full of HGH and performance enhancers. The guys just know how to cycle on and off now. Ped’s are all about recovery and endurance. Which is huge in a long season.
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A lot of guys used to get hit when they would be in their PCT

It’s all a science now. I know dudes that are dumber than a doorstop but when it comes to that stuff they’re like Rain Man calculating ****
 
JHallCanes said:
A lot of guys used to get hit when they would be in their PCT

It’s all a science now. I know dudes that are dumber than a doorstop but when it comes to that stuff they’re like Rain Man calculating ****
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Cheaters are a decade ahead of the game at all times. If a tester gets you then you deserved it. Btw I’m not mad at anyone trying to extend their career and make millions more. Get your Trt and HGH on.
 
Cribby said:
Cheaters are a decade ahead of the game at all times. If a tester gets you then you deserved it. Btw I’m not mad at anyone trying to extend their career and make millions more. Get your Trt and HGH on.
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Took a public speaking class in college and my final speech was about making steroids legal in sports so yeah. It’s all kind of a joke since they’re all doing it anyway
 
MiamiCanes1992 said:
I still remember when he went by Patrick Johnson
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We’re old as ****! LOL. I was thinking the exact same thing. I remember reading on Grassy how he went out to a camp out west, possibly at Southern Cal and completely dominated the one on ones. It was said that his performance there was one of the best scouts had ever seen. That boy was a man.
 
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