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dsddcane said:
It tells me the cardinals (the same team who just drafted a pro set qb in the first round last year, who just hired a coach who was fired several months ago on the college level) still dont know how to get out of their own way. They ate desperate to try to make something work & this is another step in that process. But obviously there is exceptions. Nothing wrong with going outside of the norm. But realize it's nowhere near the norm what's being spoke on.
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The NFL gets what the NCAA sends them. If the NCAA is sending QBs who are mobile and more equipped with the spread scheme, the NFL is going to adjust, not force players to do something that doesn't fit their strengths.
 
330 Cane said:
it is alarming that our QBs have to work on proper drops at this point in their careers. Gino, Bernie and Dors conducted a QB camp at my kids high school and drops and footwork were the first thing they taught. I’m hearing we need big time improvement from all of the QBs, lot of work to be done and that comes from someone that has watched multiple practices . Thankfully it’s April!
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All QBs work on their drops. The professionals do more so than college. I don't see a point here. It's not like you learn it once and never practice it again. It's done over and over with repetition so it becomes 2nd nature. What do you think the NFL QBs work on in OTAs and Tranining camp?
 
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I am glad to hear about the problems on this team that are coming out of practice. Seems like last year everything out of practice was sugar coated. This is what I should happen in spring practice. No big deal to me that the present coaching staff actually admits there are problems and are actually working on getting them fixed. Rather refreshing to me
 
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theibisrules said:
No diss....but I don't see any points, just babble.
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My exact point is that the NFL gets what the NCAA sends them. More and more often that is mobile QBs who excel in a spread offense.

Now what does that have to do with your point saying that we need a competent QB now, not 10 years from now? I'll answer that, absolutely nothing.
 
D RevLee said:
My exact point is that the NFL gets what the NCAA sends them. More and more often that is mobile QBs who excel in a spread offense.

Now what does that have to do with your point saying that we need a competent QB now, not 10 years from now? I'll answer that, absolutely nothing.
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i'm your huckleberry...so i'm to ignore your Cardinals reference with the 5'10'' qb right? I guess you're so smart and we are all dumb that you can throw that out there and we can't see that you are saying the Canes have their own 5'11'' qb and therefore we are ahead of the times. It's all psycho babble and it has no place on this thread. Let Tate prove himself first. If he keeps throwin them ducks he won't have a chance here.
 
theibisrules said:
i'm your huckleberry...so i'm to ignore your Cardinals reference with the 5'10'' qb right? I guess you're so smart and we are all dumb that you can throw that out there and we can't see that you are saying the Canes have their own 5'11'' qb and therefore we are ahead of the times. It's all psycho babble and it has no place on this thread. Let Tate prove himself first. If he keeps throwin them ducks he won't have a chance here.
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The initial point someone else made, that I commented on, was that the NFL doesn't care what scheme u ran in college but whether u can play in the NFL or not. I only further expanded on that comment.

U should probably stop assuming what I'm saying bc I never meant that "we are ahead of our times". I meant that size of the QB or what scheme he ran in college doesn't matter anymore as long as that player can ball.

I simply said that what we consider the pro-style now will be a spread offense in the future bc the NFL gets what the NCAA sends them. Considering the majority of CFB is running the spread now, more often than not the NFL will get a mobile QB who's strength is a spread offense. The NFL is not going to get a Kyler Murray or Baker Mayfield and limit their abilities by putting them in a pro-style offense.

And that is my point.
 
dsddcane said:
There is no valid defense for this. Regardless of what they played in highschool they all (except nkosi) had long term private coaches. They all should know the fundamentals of the position. High school be dammed
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Kid I sponsored has never done anything since 9th grade other than work out of the spread. He started 2-years in JUCO and just rolled into a Division II school in West Virginia in January. All spread. He has had one of the better quarterback coaches in Northern Virginia work with him since 12th grade. He has done nothing other than take a 3-step drop out of pistol or shotgun in high school and junior college and this West Virginia school specifically recruited him as a dual-threat. The footwork under center is completely different especially run Power-I. I'm willing to bet the last time any of our 3 quarterbacks were truly under center is when they ran Wing-T, modified Flex or Double-Wing as a 12 year old for some youth program.

That being said. I'm not worried they will get it.
 
D RevLee said:
The initial point someone else made, that I commented on, was that the NFL doesn't care what scheme u ran in college but whether u can play in the NFL or not. I only further expanded on that comment.

U should probably stop assuming what I'm saying bc I never meant that "we are ahead of our times". I meant that size of the QB or what scheme he ran in college doesn't matter anymore as long as that player can ball.

I simply said that what we consider the pro-style now will be a spread offense in the future bc the NFL gets what the NCAA sends them. Considering the majority of CFB is running the spread now, more often than not the NFL will get a mobile QB who's strength is a spread offense. The NFL is not going to get a Kyler Murray or Baker Mayfield and limit their abilities by putting them in a pro-style offense.

And that is my point.
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Keep changing up those words my friend that's the spirit.
 
theibisrules said:
Keep changing up those words my friend that's the spirit.
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Show me exactly where I changed words. I'll wait...

U clearly did not read the comment to which I initially commented on, bc if u did, u would not have misunderstood the point that I made.
 
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D RevLee said:
Show me exactly where I changed words. I'll wait...

U clearly did not read the comment to which I initially commented on, bc if u did, u would not have misunderstood the point that I made.
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Two tiny tot qbs were selected in the nfl and none of them did bunk. You deny that you are talking about Tate which I know is a lie. Don't hand me that crap about Drew Brees either. If the 5'11"" q.b. keeps throwing ducks and the wr's can't get around to catching them that's a problem, small hands or hand placement be damned. Again, show me where Enos said his hands weren't small.

Btw I'm done with this convo. You won't answer me after I asked about Terry Bradshaw, Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning And you butted into the convo.
 
theibisrules said:
Two tiny tot qbs were selected in the nfl and none of them did bunk. You deny that you are talking about Tate which I know is a lie. Don't hand me that crap about Drew Brees either. If the 5'11"" q.b. keeps throwing ducks and the wr's can't get around to catching them that's a problem, small hands or hand placement be damned. Again, show me where Enos said his hands weren't small.

Btw I'm done with this convo. You won't answer me after I asked about Terry Bradshaw, Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning And you butted into the convo.
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I wouldn't reply either if I were u. U jumped into a conversation not even knowing what the subject was about.

I guess u forgot about superbowl winner Russell Wilson who busted the myth that short QBs can't play in the NFL, or Baker Mayfield who threw for close to 4K and 27 TDs his rookie campaign, and Heisman winner Kyler Murray who is about to be selected number 1 in the NFL draft.

As I said before, this is 2019, it doesn't matter if u are 5'10" or 6'7". As long as u can play QB at a high level coaches do not care about height, especially in college.
 
D RevLee said:
I wouldn't reply either if I were u. U jumped into a conversation not even knowing what the subject was about.

I guess u forgot about superbowl winner Russell Wilson who busted the myth that short QBs can't play in the NFL, or Baker Mayfield who threw for close to 4K and 27 TDs his rookie campaign, and Heisman winner Kyler Murray who is about to be selected number 1 in the NFL draft.

As I said before, this is 2019, it doesn't matter if u are 5'10" or 6'7". As long as u can play QB at a high level coaches do not care about height, especially in college.
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Skirting around the questions as usual.
 
theibisrules said:
Skirting around the questions as usual.
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