Pretty good article about Charlie Strong

[DC Dog Nuts]

I do think he would do better at miami then at texas.

Well ya he would. He would be in his home recruiting grounds etc. Would make him a little better. But the fact is.. he is being exposed as a COACH. Has nothing to do with culture, recruiting, or fan base support that would make him a better fit. He's proving to be another Muschamp

My belief is this.

Texas kids grow up playing for white coaches. South Florida kids grow up playing for black coaches. He was really able to sale that to south florida recruits while he was at Louisville

This is spot on. Sumlin can't get TX kids on his roster and all of these SFL kids are having one **** of a time finding schools to play for that have black head coaches. I don't even think any of them are going to the "racist" SEC at this point. Most are probably at HBC where they have disappeared from the football radar.

 

[clg003]

The lunacy of denial.

Charlie gets no credit for his Louisville days because he had all those Florida kids and he played a weak conference.

Butch's days at UNC didn't count because he was in a weak conference and he didn't get all those Florida kids.

If Charlie quit Texas he would have multiple schools coming after him yet butch has no one and has been unemployed for years and has to beg for a job on the radio.

Your brains are completely void of the ability to comprehend logic.

 

[BALLHAWKU]

Time for Charlie Strong to Get The **** Out of Dodge and Leave Texas - Lost Lettermen

he is not walking away from millions because everybody knows texas will buy his contract out if they want thim to leave.

 

[The Franchise]

The lunacy of denial.

Charlie gets no credit for his Louisville days because he had all those Florida kids and he played a weak conference.

Charlie gets no credit for a couple good seasons at Louisville for the same reason Al Folden no longer gets credit for his work at Temple. Both guys got their shot at the big time and both flopped badly.

What's so hard to understand about that? Why do you super smart guys always try to complicate simple stuff?

Why are you looking to go way back in time to a Group of 5 program to use as a model when you have a much better (Power 5 marquee program) and much more recent model to use? I'd rather use Texas, which is a P5 program like UM, and is happening RIGHT NOW than Louisville, which was a big fish in a tiny Big East pond, as my example of what Charlie Wrong would do at another marquee P5 program.

 

[Fightinibis]

I do think he would do better at miami then at texas.

Well ya he would. He would be in his home recruiting grounds etc. Would make him a little better. But the fact is.. he is being exposed as a COACH. Has nothing to do with culture, recruiting, or fan base support that would make him a better fit. He's proving to be another Muschamp

My belief is this.

Texas kids grow up playing for white coaches. South Florida kids grow up playing for black coaches. He was really able to sale that to south florida recruits while he was at Louisville

How'd that work out for Randy

Are you serious.

Randy was a terrible recruiter.

Please...that's buffet line preaching.

Randy had the #1 class in America his first year. Had he been able to make a change in the field, he would be recruiting the **** out of SFLA like he has been while at ARK and U***.

UM

 

[Rellyrell]

The lunacy of denial.

Charlie gets no credit for his Louisville days because he had all those Florida kids and he played a weak conference.

Charlie gets no credit for a couple good seasons at Louisville for the same reason Al Folden no longer gets credit for his work at Temple. Both guys got their shot at the big time and both flopped badly.

What's so hard to understand about that? Why do you super smart guys always try to complicate simple stuff?

Why are you looking to go way back in time to a Group of 5 program to use as a model when you have a much better (Power 5 marquee program) and much more recent model to use? I'd rather use Texas, which is a P5 program like UM, and is happening RIGHT NOW than Louisville, which was a big fish in a tiny Big East pond, as my example of what Charlie Wrong would do at another marquee P5 program.

^^^This!!

 

[Rellyrell]

Well ya he would. He would be in his home recruiting grounds etc. Would make him a little better. But the fact is.. he is being exposed as a COACH. Has nothing to do with culture, recruiting, or fan base support that would make him a better fit. He's proving to be another Muschamp

My belief is this.

Texas kids grow up playing for white coaches. South Florida kids grow up playing for black coaches. He was really able to sale that to south florida recruits while he was at Louisville

How'd that work out for Randy

Are you serious.

Randy was a terrible recruiter.

Please...that's buffet line preaching.

Randy had the #1 class in America his first year. Had he been able to make a change in the field, he would be recruiting the **** out of SFLA like he has been while at ARK and U***.

UM

Sorry, but are u smoking, blood? Randy burnt so many bridges while he was here at UM b/c he focused on one So Fla school. Yeah he had one # 1 ranked class, but he totally f'd on recruiting. Don't recreate history here.

 

[Canesbball]

whats the fascination with charlie strong, without Teddy B, he is hot garbage as a head coach.

What did Butch ever win without Dorsey? What has Pete Carroll won without great QB's? Up until last year the same could be said for Meyer as well. Of course he's going to have success with a QB like Teddy. Does he not get credit for recruiting one of the best recruits to ever come out of Dade to ****** Louisville? Or does that not fit the narrative?

 

[brock]

From josh newberg
Interesting news

http://floridastate.247sports.com/Board/36/Contents/My-latest-Coaching-Board-v30-41136978

beating OU but losing to Iowa State and WVU cancel each other out.
I'm told both sides want out of this deal.
- UT can't fire him right now, they owe him too much money.
- Charlie can't leave UT, he's owed too much money.
- I'm told cord has been cut behind the scenes and it's just a matter of time/money.
Here's the scenario where he leaves:
- UT admin and Strong sit down and come up with a buyout. Something that doesn't leave UT on the hook for all the money. Strong wants out (I'm told), but he's not an idiot and isn't going to leave all that money on the table.
- The two sides sit down and come up with a number that works for both sides.
- Charlie then gets UT money and signs a 3-4 year deal with South Carolina or Miami. He gets his money and has more job security.

 

[Canesbball]

From josh newberg
Interesting news

My latest Coaching Board (v3.0)

beating OU but losing to Iowa State and WVU cancel each other out.
I'm told both sides want out of this deal.
- UT can't fire him right now, they owe him too much money.
- Charlie can't leave UT, he's owed too much money.
- I'm told cord has been cut behind the scenes and it's just a matter of time/money.
Here's the scenario where he leaves:
- UT admin and Strong sit down and come up with a buyout. Something that doesn't leave UT on the hook for all the money. Strong wants out (I'm told), but he's not an idiot and isn't going to leave all that money on the table.
- The two sides sit down and come up with a number that works for both sides.
- Charlie then gets UT money and signs a 3-4 year deal with South Carolina or Miami. He gets his money and has more job security.

Considering there's no buyout in Strong's contract I don't see how any of this means anything.

 

[brock]

From josh newberg
Interesting news

My latest Coaching Board (v3.0)

beating OU but losing to Iowa State and WVU cancel each other out.
I'm told both sides want out of this deal.
- UT can't fire him right now, they owe him too much money.
- Charlie can't leave UT, he's owed too much money.
- I'm told cord has been cut behind the scenes and it's just a matter of time/money.
Here's the scenario where he leaves:
- UT admin and Strong sit down and come up with a buyout. Something that doesn't leave UT on the hook for all the money. Strong wants out (I'm told), but he's not an idiot and isn't going to leave all that money on the table.
- The two sides sit down and come up with a number that works for both sides.
- Charlie then gets UT money and signs a 3-4 year deal with South Carolina or Miami. He gets his money and has more job security.

Considering there's no buyout in Strong's contract I don't see how any of this means anything.

I think it's something to the fact that If strong takes another job then he would have to pay off his assistant salaries I believe.

 

[DaU83]

if charlie strongs abject failure, at Texas of all places, nets him the head job here... it would be inexplicable.. just as bad as a cristobal or schiano.. maybe even worse.. since we're seeing him not even get a good defense on the field as we speak.

 

[clg003]

The lunacy of denial.

Charlie gets no credit for his Louisville days because he had all those Florida kids and he played a weak conference.

Charlie gets no credit for a couple good seasons at Louisville for the same reason Al Folden no longer gets credit for his work at Temple. Both guys got their shot at the big time and both flopped badly.

What's so hard to understand about that? Why do you super smart guys always try to complicate simple stuff?

Why are you looking to go way back in time to a Group of 5 program to use as a model when you have a much better (Power 5 marquee program) and much more recent model to use? I'd rather use Texas, which is a P5 program like UM, and is happening RIGHT NOW than Louisville, which was a big fish in a tiny Big East pond, as my example of what Charlie Wrong would do at another marquee P5 program.

I can show you how Charlie's impact at Texas has killed recruiting, but that wont matter either. Its very clear to see what has happened to Texas when you look at their recruiting rankings over the last 5 years and you also compare how popular and successful neighboring programs have also become in that same time period. It takes a 100% biased mind to not see facts like that that 100% contribute to the success of the program. His Louisville teams would have killed that Texas team.

Comparing what Charlie did to Louisville to what Al did at Temple is proof that your in denial.

The bottom fell out of Louisville before Charlie got there and he took it to a BCS bowl and he won. Golden did nothing.

Show me another turnaround like that.

Also Charlie was part of 2 NC with Florida and there is no doubt when he is recruiting in Florida he can put one of the best defenses on the country on the field. One that's good enough to win championships with. That's already been proven.

Also ignoring what he has done to Florida recruiting and developing players for the NFL is proof that your in denial.

I get it you don't like Charlie but to be blind to all these facts just proves your biased. A biased mind sees what it wants, thats a fact of human nature and when you ignore everything good and look at a few bad things then your biased and no longer looking at things rationally.

I cant change irrational minds but I can point out the flaws.

 

[CANEGANG954]

From josh newberg
Interesting news

My latest Coaching Board (v3.0)

beating OU but losing to Iowa State and WVU cancel each other out.
I'm told both sides want out of this deal.
- UT can't fire him right now, they owe him too much money.
- Charlie can't leave UT, he's owed too much money.
- I'm told cord has been cut behind the scenes and it's just a matter of time/money.
Here's the scenario where he leaves:
- UT admin and Strong sit down and come up with a buyout. Something that doesn't leave UT on the hook for all the money. Strong wants out (I'm told), but he's not an idiot and isn't going to leave all that money on the table.
- The two sides sit down and come up with a number that works for both sides.
- Charlie then gets UT money and signs a 3-4 year deal with South Carolina or Miami. He gets his money and has more job security.

Considering there's no buyout in Strong's contract I don't see how any of this means anything.

I think it's something to the fact that If strong takes another job then he would have to pay off his assistant salaries I believe.

Anybody else read the comments on that board? FSU scared af of Strong to Miami, I don't understand how so many canes fans don't see the upside of bringing strong to the U.

 

[brock]

The lunacy of denial.

Charlie gets no credit for his Louisville days because he had all those Florida kids and he played a weak conference.

Charlie gets no credit for a couple good seasons at Louisville for the same reason Al Folden no longer gets credit for his work at Temple. Both guys got their shot at the big time and both flopped badly.

What's so hard to understand about that? Why do you super smart guys always try to complicate simple stuff?

Why are you looking to go way back in time to a Group of 5 program to use as a model when you have a much better (Power 5 marquee program) and much more recent model to use? I'd rather use Texas, which is a P5 program like UM, and is happening RIGHT NOW than Louisville, which was a big fish in a tiny Big East pond, as my example of what Charlie Wrong would do at another marquee P5 program.

I can show you how Charlie's impact at Texas has killed recruiting, but that wont matter either. Its very clear to see what has happened to Texas when you look at their recruiting rankings over the last 5 years and you also compare how popular and successful neighboring programs have also become in that same time period. It takes a 100% biased mind to not see facts like that that 100% contribute to the success of the program. His Louisville teams would have killed that Texas team.

Comparing what Charlie did to Louisville to what Al did at Temple is proof that your in denial.

The bottom fell out of Louisville before Charlie got there and he took it to a BCS bowl and he won. Golden did nothing.

Show me another turnaround like that.

Also Charlie was part of 2 NC with Florida and there is no doubt when he is recruiting in Florida he can put one of the best defenses on the country on the field. One that's good enough to win championships with. That's already been proven.

Also ignoring what he has done to Florida recruiting and developing players for the NFL is proof that your in denial.

I get it you don't like Charlie but to be blind to all these facts just proves your biased. A biased mind sees what it wants, thats a fact of human nature and when you ignore everything good and look at a few bad things then your biased and no longer looking at things rationally.

I cant change irrational minds but I can point out the flaws.

This ^^. Great post

 

[brock]

The lunacy of denial.

Charlie gets no credit for his Louisville days because he had all those Florida kids and he played a weak conference.

Charlie gets no credit for a couple good seasons at Louisville for the same reason Al Folden no longer gets credit for his work at Temple. Both guys got their shot at the big time and both flopped badly.

What's so hard to understand about that? Why do you super smart guys always try to complicate simple stuff?

Why are you looking to go way back in time to a Group of 5 program to use as a model when you have a much better (Power 5 marquee program) and much more recent model to use? I'd rather use Texas, which is a P5 program like UM, and is happening RIGHT NOW than Louisville, which was a big fish in a tiny Big East pond, as my example of what Charlie Wrong would do at another marquee P5 program.

I can show you how Charlie's impact at Texas has killed recruiting, but that wont matter either. Its very clear to see what has happened to Texas when you look at their recruiting rankings over the last 5 years and you also compare how popular and successful neighboring programs have also become in that same time period. It takes a 100% biased mind to not see facts like that that 100% contribute to the success of the program. His Louisville teams would have killed that Texas team.

Comparing what Charlie did to Louisville to what Al did at Temple is proof that your in denial.

The bottom fell out of Louisville before Charlie got there and he took it to a BCS bowl and he won. Golden did nothing.

Show me another turnaround like that.

Also Charlie was part of 2 NC with Florida and there is no doubt when he is recruiting in Florida he can put one of the best defenses on the country on the field. One that's good enough to win championships with. That's already been proven.

Also ignoring what he has done to Florida recruiting and developing players for the NFL is proof that your in denial.

I get it you don't like Charlie but to be blind to all these facts just proves your biased. A biased mind sees what it wants, thats a fact of human nature and when you ignore everything good and look at a few bad things then your biased and no longer looking at things rationally.

I cant change irrational minds but I can point out the flaws.

From josh newberg
Interesting news

My latest Coaching Board (v3.0)

beating OU but losing to Iowa State and WVU cancel each other out.
I'm told both sides want out of this deal.
- UT can't fire him right now, they owe him too much money.
- Charlie can't leave UT, he's owed too much money.
- I'm told cord has been cut behind the scenes and it's just a matter of time/money.
Here's the scenario where he leaves:
- UT admin and Strong sit down and come up with a buyout. Something that doesn't leave UT on the hook for all the money. Strong wants out (I'm told), but he's not an idiot and isn't going to leave all that money on the table.
- The two sides sit down and come up with a number that works for both sides.
- Charlie then gets UT money and signs a 3-4 year deal with South Carolina or Miami. He gets his money and has more job security.

Considering there's no buyout in Strong's contract I don't see how any of this means anything.

I think it's something to the fact that If strong takes another job then he would have to pay off his assistant salaries I believe.

Anybody else read the comments on that board? FSU scared af of Strong to Miami, I don't understand how so many canes fans don't see the upside of bringing strong to the U.

It's ridiculous, he had the closest thing I have seen to a traditional Miami defense in a long time and it was filled with Miami recruits. Think about what he would do with what we have and the upper echelon recruits who wouldn't go to Louisville for obvious reasons.

 

[WhatTheHell]

Anyone lobbying for Strong at this point has other reasons or is in prison and lacks access to television or Internet.

He's at one of the best jobs in college football and he's being humiliated. He sucks on both sides of the ball. He's dropping games he shouldn't. He can't recruit.

Hes getting every single excuse Golden received despite overwhelming tangible evidence that he just flat out couldnt handle it when he got a shot at the big time.

- People claiming bad fit
- Blaming local recruits
- Blaming the emergence of other programs
- Saying the roster sucks (he inherited a roster with 3 top 5 classes on it)
- Saying the program was a mess ( won 9 and 8 games the two years before he arrived )


The bottom line is Strong got called up and failed. He's whiffing on curve balls. He can't handle any fastball with movement on it. He's overmatched up there. It's embarrassing. Put him up against teams that aren't trash cans in pads and he's struggling.

So no, I don't want a guy who looks awful when the talent gap closes. Hes mad himself unhirable at this point for any self respecting Power 5 program.

His performance at Texas is a better indicator of how he'd fare at Miami than the two years he knocked around soup cans at a mid-major.

 

[BALLHAWKU]

The lunacy of denial.

Charlie gets no credit for his Louisville days because he had all those Florida kids and he played a weak conference.

Charlie gets no credit for a couple good seasons at Louisville for the same reason Al Folden no longer gets credit for his work at Temple. Both guys got their shot at the big time and both flopped badly.

What's so hard to understand about that? Why do you super smart guys always try to complicate simple stuff?

Why are you looking to go way back in time to a Group of 5 program to use as a model when you have a much better (Power 5 marquee program) and much more recent model to use? I'd rather use Texas, which is a P5 program like UM, and is happening RIGHT NOW than Louisville, which was a big fish in a tiny Big East pond, as my example of what Charlie Wrong would do at another marquee P5 program.

I can show you how Charlie's impact at Texas has killed recruiting, but that wont matter either. Its very clear to see what has happened to Texas when you look at their recruiting rankings over the last 5 years and you also compare how popular and successful neighboring programs have also become in that same time period. It takes a 100% biased mind to not see facts like that that 100% contribute to the success of the program. His Louisville teams would have killed that Texas team.

Comparing what Charlie did to Louisville to what Al did at Temple is proof that your in denial.

The bottom fell out of Louisville before Charlie got there and he took it to a BCS bowl and he won. Golden did nothing.

Show me another turnaround like that.

Also Charlie was part of 2 NC with Florida and there is no doubt when he is recruiting in Florida he can put one of the best defenses on the country on the field. One that's good enough to win championships with. That's already been proven.

Also ignoring what he has done to Florida recruiting and developing players for the NFL is proof that your in denial.

I get it you don't like Charlie but to be blind to all these facts just proves your biased. A biased mind sees what it wants, thats a fact of human nature and when you ignore everything good and look at a few bad things then your biased and no longer looking at things rationally.

I cant change irrational minds but I can point out the flaws.

From josh newberg
Interesting news

My latest Coaching Board (v3.0)

beating OU but losing to Iowa State and WVU cancel each other out.
I'm told both sides want out of this deal.
- UT can't fire him right now, they owe him too much money.
- Charlie can't leave UT, he's owed too much money.
- I'm told cord has been cut behind the scenes and it's just a matter of time/money.
Here's the scenario where he leaves:
- UT admin and Strong sit down and come up with a buyout. Something that doesn't leave UT on the hook for all the money. Strong wants out (I'm told), but he's not an idiot and isn't going to leave all that money on the table.
- The two sides sit down and come up with a number that works for both sides.
- Charlie then gets UT money and signs a 3-4 year deal with South Carolina or Miami. He gets his money and has more job security.

Considering there's no buyout in Strong's contract I don't see how any of this means anything.

I think it's something to the fact that If strong takes another job then he would have to pay off his assistant salaries I believe.

Anybody else read the comments on that board? FSU scared af of Strong to Miami, I don't understand how so many canes fans don't see the upside of bringing strong to the U.

It's ridiculous, he had the closest thing I have seen to a traditional Miami defense in a long time and it was filled with Miami recruits. Think about what he would do with what we have and the upper echelon recruits who wouldn't go to Louisville for obvious reasons.

i think Strong would be a good fit too shocked we actually agree on something... Butch, Shiano, Strong is my three choices the reast are unrealistic .Cristobals would be closest thing to RS top notch talent who IS way over his head. People dont remember what he did at looserville how he destroyed teams to include us

 

[Angry Ibis]

Anyone lobbying for Strong at this point has other reasons or is in prison and lacks access to television or Internet.

He's at one of the best jobs in college football and he's being humiliated. He sucks on both sides of the ball. He's dropping games he shouldn't. He can't recruit.

Hes getting every single excuse Golden received despite overwhelming tangible evidence that he just flat out couldnt handle it when he got a shot at the big time.

- People claiming bad fit
- Blaming local recruits
- Blaming the emergence of other programs
- Saying the roster sucks (he inherited a roster with 3 top 5 classes on it)
- Saying the program was a mess ( won 9 and 8 games the two years before he arrived )


The bottom line is Strong got called up and failed. He's whiffing on curve balls. He can't handle any fastball with movement on it. He's overmatched up there. It's embarrassing. Put him up against teams that aren't trash cans in pads and he's struggling.

So no, I don't want a guy who looks awful when the talent gap closes. Hes mad himself unhirable at this point for any self respecting Power 5 program.

His performance at Texas is a better indicator of how he'd fare at Miami than the two years he knocked around soup cans at a mid-major.

Seems simple to understand.

 

[CienPorCientoCane]

From josh newberg
Interesting news

My latest Coaching Board (v3.0)

beating OU but losing to Iowa State and WVU cancel each other out.
I'm told both sides want out of this deal.
- UT can't fire him right now, they owe him too much money.
- Charlie can't leave UT, he's owed too much money.
- I'm told cord has been cut behind the scenes and it's just a matter of time/money.
Here's the scenario where he leaves:
- UT admin and Strong sit down and come up with a buyout. Something that doesn't leave UT on the hook for all the money. Strong wants out (I'm told), but he's not an idiot and isn't going to leave all that money on the table.
- The two sides sit down and come up with a number that works for both sides.
- Charlie then gets UT money and signs a 3-4 year deal with South Carolina or Miami. He gets his money and has more job security.

If this happens.....Please let the Gamecocks have him!!!