Presidential Search

[CaneFan79]

@The Dude: There are four finalists. He's one of them. I talked to three professors in two different departments and two board members who feel that Stavridis is going to get the job. So I can't give you an actual percentage but that's where I heard this from so I would be at least confident. The other candidates have a lot of support but I think Stavridis will get the job.

@BigCaneAl: No problem. I would expect an announcement to be coming at the March of maybe just a little later. They aren't going to want to hire a president so late that he or she can't scramble their resources/money/best academic minds for the following year.

@Bigtip: He will be, by default, a vast improvement over Shalala. Career military man or not, he apparently fosters a very family atmosphere at Tufts where he gives employees enough rope to be themselves and active while being an effective leader. Every Tufts person has good things to say about him.

As far as football goes, his parents were season ticket holders. There seems to be some pre-existing relationship with Butch and even if Butch isn't on his mind, winning Miami football is at least known to him. He does not seem to be the type to settle for mediocrity.

the ones at medical campus as well as the deans, don't think the admiral is the man.

I will be a student at that same medical school next year and let me tell you something about Miller and the people there. They have enjoyed Donna's blatant, unashamed favoritism since the day she got the job on June 1st, 2001. Bringing in Stavridis, and his predisposition to the law school and international relations, and the medical school can kiss their, "favorite child," position goodbye.

Will he get the job? I think so but I guess it's not set in stone. The medical school people may not think he's the man for the job because now they'll be treated like everyone else. They are a small portion of the search committee. And if they don't think he's the man for the job, that makes me more confident that he will get the job because otherwise they wouldn't be worried about losing their preferential treatment.

TRUTH

 

[bozcane]

The very fact that he was an Admiral is indicative of his accomplishments in a stringent organization. You don't get to be a general or admiral by not paying attention to details, and demanding excellence in all aspects of your command.

One of your subordinates is mediocre, he's gone - because he's making you look bad.

Golden makes UM look bad. Nationally, the absolutely most visible aspect of the University of Miami - and he's crap.

Academia may think academics is what sells UM, but not many outside of the 305 give a tinker's **** about the academics at UM. They all DO pay attention to the UM football program - as they know how it has dominated in the past.

UM Football is the flagship in the public's eye - and anyone that made admiral wants his flagship to shine.

Starting to sink in now?

I so hope this is for real, that this guy is all the above, is coming here, and out of general principles cleans house. Football = dud. Baseball = dud. Can em. Next!

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

Peeps hatin' on THO.

Lick ballz.

He's the closest thing to a legit source in the admin as you'll find anywhere.

I appreciate the vote of confidence and support my man.

I don't feel like I'm being hated on. People just want answers on such a crucial hire and that's natural.

 

[FAKE Chip Brierre]

I will be a student at that same medical school next year and let me tell you something about Miller and the people there. They have enjoyed Donna's blatant, unashamed favoritism since the day she got the job on June 1st, 2001. Bringing in Stavridis, and his predisposition to the law school and international relations, and the medical school can kiss their, "favorite child," position goodbye.

Will he get the job? I think so but I guess it's not set in stone. The medical school people may not think he's the man for the job because now they'll be treated like everyone else. They are a small portion of the search committee. And if they don't think he's the man for the job, that makes me more confident that he will get the job because otherwise they wouldn't be worried about losing their preferential treatment.

i am a current student. second year actually. I think I know something about miller and the people here. you seem to be very well connected to the administration.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

Peeps hatin' on THO.

Lick ballz.

He's the closest thing to a legit source in the admin as you'll find anywhere.

I appreciate the vote of confidence and support my man.

I don't feel like I'm being hated on. People just want answers on such a crucial hire and that's natural.

We finally get a guy on the inside and all the peanut gallery wants to criticize the info. I love you though bro!

Keep on keepin on!

 

[ACKCANE]

The fact that this is leaking in favor of the Admiral leads me to believe it will be anyone but him!

 

[The Franchise]

The very fact that he was an Admiral is indicative of his accomplishments in a stringent organization. You don't get to be a general or admiral by not paying attention to details, and demanding excellence in all aspects of your command.

One of your subordinates is mediocre, he's gone - because he's making you look bad.

Golden makes UM look bad. Nationally, the absolutely most visible aspect of the University of Miami - and he's crap.

Academia may think academics is what sells UM, but not many outside of the 305 give a tinker's **** about the academics at UM. They all DO pay attention to the UM football program - as they know how it has dominated in the past.

UM Football is the flagship in the public's eye - and anyone that made admiral wants his flagship to shine.

Starting to sink in now?

Not really sinking in because all of that beautifully phrased verbiage is nothing but theory, conjecture and speculation. It's nothing specific to Stavridis and what he's done to champion athletics as an administrator. I'm looking for specifics not hope based on your opinion of what an admiral should be like.

This particular guy could be a demanding high achiever who thinks athletics gets in the way of things that are more important to him.

 

[The Franchise]

Serious question: What has Stavridis ever done as an administrator that makes you guys excited about him from an athletics standpoint? So far, about all I've seen is that his parents used to attend UM football games and that he might have some sort of friendship or acquaintance with Butch.

Is there something concrete he's done as an administrator that makes people think he'll be pro-athletics?

Desperation.

pretty much but on the surface it appears that it cant be as bad as Shalalala. has to be an improvement. question is how much

The "he has to be better than ____" line of thought hasn't panned out for us at all with our football corches. We all assumed the next guy had to be better than Coker. He wasn't. Then, the next guy had to be better than Shannon. He wasn't either.

I think it's all blind hope with the next president because all I see with Stavridis is a politician who works at a school that doesn't play major sports.

James R. Ramsey took over at Louisville in 2002 as a career politician and a stint at Western Kentucky and all they've done under him as far as athletics is concerned is grow. It can happen.

I'm not saying he's for sure going to be going to the WEZ and posting about the team but all signs indicate that he enjoys sports but above all else recognizes their benefits for the school and being from West Palm Beach he has first hand experiences with that. For those reasons I say that'll he'll be an improvement over Shalala by a wide margin.

Ted, you're like a son to me, but all you're giving me is guesses. There's really nothing concrete to assure anyone that he'll be a champion for athletics. Ramsey has nothing to do with him, and there are plenty of people who grew up in WPB who couldn't give a **** about college sports.

 

[Tad Footeball]

'Chise here is making some real valid points. I've been following The Admiral pretty closely since his name first surfaced in relation to our opening. While I've been impressed that he actually seems moderate to even slightly right-leaning for someone that has become an academic, there has been not one hint of anything coming from the guy that could lead any of us to believe that he is a proponent of big-time college sports. In fact, the only mention of anything sports related was one pro Navy football tweet and a forced joke about how someone could ask him who he was pulling for in the Super Bowl (as he was being interviewed from Boston). The timeframe of his potential exposure to Canes football is also concerning. The guy was no longer even a West Palm resident by the late 70's so there's a good chance that he missed all the Glory Days if he was even a fan to begin with.

I'm pulling for the guy to get the job because of what I've seen from him when being interviewed on world affairs and because there definitely doesn't seem to be a better name floating around. But to assume just because he is a military man from Palm Beach County and his parents may have had some football tickets that he'll be a savior to the program is taking a big leap. Then again, all we have at this point is hope so I'm down with dreaming that him and Butch regularly break down game film at an Ale House in Bonita while taking shots at Obama surrounded by empty pitchers of beer and plates of Zingers.

 

[BigDikCane]

LOL @ u dudes... After 2018 you'll know that its a conspiracy.

 

[The Franchise]

On top of all the hope, guesses and conjecture, Tad Footeball, we have the harsh reality that the people hiring the next president are the same silver spoon trust fund weasels who think Folden is doing a great job because he's white and speaks decently (when he's not hiding and when he gets to stay on script).

If they love Folden for what can only be non-football reasons what makes people think they're looking to hire a school president who might look to return us to our thuggish hooligan ways of the past?

 

[PUNCICANE]

The very fact that he was an Admiral is indicative of his accomplishments in a stringent organization. You don't get to be a general or admiral by not paying attention to details, and demanding excellence in all aspects of your command.

One of your subordinates is mediocre, he's gone - because he's making you look bad.

Golden makes UM look bad. Nationally, the absolutely most visible aspect of the University of Miami - and he's crap.

Academia may think academics is what sells UM, but not many outside of the 305 give a tinker's **** about the academics at UM. They all DO pay attention to the UM football program - as they know how it has dominated in the past.

UM Football is the flagship in the public's eye - and anyone that made admiral wants his flagship to shine.

Starting to sink in now?

Not really sinking in because all of that beautifully phrased verbiage is nothing but theory, conjecture and speculation. It's nothing specific to Stavridis and what he's done to champion athletics as an administrator. I'm looking for specifics not hope based on your opinion of what an admiral should be like.

This particular guy could be a demanding high achiever who thinks athletics gets in the way of things that are more important to him.

This.

I keep hearing that he is a big advocate for athletics, but don't know where everyone is getting this...

I want to believe it, but haven't heard anything factual to support it

 

[Grisha.Otrepyev]

The very fact that he was an Admiral is indicative of his accomplishments in a stringent organization. You don't get to be a general or admiral by not paying attention to details, and demanding excellence in all aspects of your command.

One of your subordinates is mediocre, he's gone - because he's making you look bad.

Golden makes UM look bad. Nationally, the absolutely most visible aspect of the University of Miami - and he's crap.

Academia may think academics is what sells UM, but not many outside of the 305 give a tinker's **** about the academics at UM. They all DO pay attention to the UM football program - as they know how it has dominated in the past.

UM Football is the flagship in the public's eye - and anyone that made admiral wants his flagship to shine.

Starting to sink in now?

Not really sinking in because all of that beautifully phrased verbiage is nothing but theory, conjecture and speculation. It's nothing specific to Stavridis and what he's done to champion athletics as an administrator. I'm looking for specifics not hope based on your opinion of what an admiral should be like.

This particular guy could be a demanding high achiever who thinks athletics gets in the way of things that are more important to him.

This.

I keep hearing that he is a big advocate for athletics, but don't know where everyone is getting this...

I want to believe it, but haven't heard anything factual to support it

People using their own hopes and prayers to filter information. It is a mental bias.

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

I will be a student at that same medical school next year and let me tell you something about Miller and the people there. They have enjoyed Donna's blatant, unashamed favoritism since the day she got the job on June 1st, 2001. Bringing in Stavridis, and his predisposition to the law school and international relations, and the medical school can kiss their, "favorite child," position goodbye.

Will he get the job? I think so but I guess it's not set in stone. The medical school people may not think he's the man for the job because now they'll be treated like everyone else. They are a small portion of the search committee. And if they don't think he's the man for the job, that makes me more confident that he will get the job because otherwise they wouldn't be worried about losing their preferential treatment.

i am a current student. second year actually. I think I know something about miller and the people here. you seem to be very well connected to the administration.

Oh good because then you know what I just said is totally correct in terms of their bias in relation to Stavridis getting hired and have more first hand experience then I do. I appreciate the confirmation.

Thanks for the well-connected comment. I try to be.

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

Desperation.

pretty much but on the surface it appears that it cant be as bad as Shalalala. has to be an improvement. question is how much

The "he has to be better than ____" line of thought hasn't panned out for us at all with our football corches. We all assumed the next guy had to be better than Coker. He wasn't. Then, the next guy had to be better than Shannon. He wasn't either.

I think it's all blind hope with the next president because all I see with Stavridis is a politician who works at a school that doesn't play major sports.

James R. Ramsey took over at Louisville in 2002 as a career politician and a stint at Western Kentucky and all they've done under him as far as athletics is concerned is grow. It can happen.

I'm not saying he's for sure going to be going to the WEZ and posting about the team but all signs indicate that he enjoys sports but above all else recognizes their benefits for the school and being from West Palm Beach he has first hand experiences with that. For those reasons I say that'll he'll be an improvement over Shalala by a wide margin.

Ted, you're like a son to me, but all you're giving me is guesses. There's really nothing concrete to assure anyone that he'll be a champion for athletics. Ramsey has nothing to do with him, and there are plenty of people who grew up in WPB who couldn't give a **** about college sports.

To be fair, no I can't point to a specific quote and/or attitude he's enacted to prove that he will be a boost for athletics.

What I can say is that when Shalala got the job, she had implied that she cared about athletics and that's clearly been false. Florida State just hired a career politician to be their president. Florida just hired Cornell's Provost with no athletic background as their president. People are hired all the time without an athletic background. I know that makes for more a crap shoot but I have to think that it's at least an educated guess.

But I will admit that there is no inarguable piece of information that he'll make athletics a strength. Just reasonable hope.

Thank you for the, "son," comment. I'm trying to make you proud.

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

'Chise here is making some real valid points. I've been following The Admiral pretty closely since his name first surfaced in relation to our opening. While I've been impressed that he actually seems moderate to even slightly right-leaning for someone that has become an academic, there has been not one hint of anything coming from the guy that could lead any of us to believe that he is a proponent of big-time college sports. In fact, the only mention of anything sports related was one pro Navy football tweet and a forced joke about how someone could ask him who he was pulling for in the Super Bowl (as he was being interviewed from Boston). The timeframe of his potential exposure to Canes football is also concerning. The guy was no longer even a West Palm resident by the late 70's so there's a good chance that he missed all the Glory Days if he was even a fan to begin with.

I'm pulling for the guy to get the job because of what I've seen from him when being interviewed on world affairs and because there definitely doesn't seem to be a better name floating around. But to assume just because he is a military man from Palm Beach County and his parents may have had some football tickets that he'll be a savior to the program is taking a big leap. Then again, all we have at this point is hope so I'm down with dreaming that him and Butch regularly break down game film at an Ale House in Bonita while taking shots at Obama surrounded by empty pitchers of beer and plates of Zingers.

All fair, well-reasoned points. All I will say is that how vocally pro-sports can you be at a place like Tufts? It wouldn't serve any purpose in the long run.

And if he really is the social media guru that he appears to be, he can't be blind to the fact that athletics is what generally attracts the top tier students, especially in Florida.

I'll be honest and say that there isn't a perfect reason to believe that he will boost athletics tremendously but, unlike Donna, he's taking over a high tier academic institution that will require less leg work than she pumped into it from an early academic perspective. At that point his attention should turn to attracting better students as teachers and investors already want to be a part of the school. The way to attract those students is through athletics.

 

[calinative umstudent]

'Chise here is making some real valid points. I've been following The Admiral pretty closely since his name first surfaced in relation to our opening. While I've been impressed that he actually seems moderate to even slightly right-leaning for someone that has become an academic, there has been not one hint of anything coming from the guy that could lead any of us to believe that he is a proponent of big-time college sports. In fact, the only mention of anything sports related was one pro Navy football tweet and a forced joke about how someone could ask him who he was pulling for in the Super Bowl (as he was being interviewed from Boston). The timeframe of his potential exposure to Canes football is also concerning. The guy was no longer even a West Palm resident by the late 70's so there's a good chance that he missed all the Glory Days if he was even a fan to begin with.

I'm pulling for the guy to get the job because of what I've seen from him when being interviewed on world affairs and because there definitely doesn't seem to be a better name floating around. But to assume just because he is a military man from Palm Beach County and his parents may have had some football tickets that he'll be a savior to the program is taking a big leap. Then again, all we have at this point is hope so I'm down with dreaming that him and Butch regularly break down game film at an Ale House in Bonita while taking shots at Obama surrounded by empty pitchers of beer and plates of Zingers.

All fair, well-reasoned points. All I will say is that how vocally pro-sports can you be at a place like Tufts? It wouldn't serve any purpose in the long run.

And if he really is the social media guru that he appears to be, he can't be blind to the fact that athletics is what generally attracts the top tier students, especially in Florida.

I'll be honest and say that there isn't a perfect reason to believe that he will boost athletics tremendously but, unlike Donna, he's taking over a high tier academic institution that will require less leg work than she pumped into it from an early academic perspective. At that point his attention should turn to attracting better students as teachers and investors already want to be a part of the school. The way to attract those students is through athletics.

I think the real question is, is he the most pro-sports of all the potential hires? Do you know the other 3 potential hires? I mean how much did you guys expect the new president to be pro-sports? The reason you hire a president is for academics, plain and simple. The president usually hires an AD to deal with all the football stuff (UF does this well). The new president doesn't have to be someone that grew up loving Canes football, just someone that understands what it means to this school and community.

 

[FAKE Chip Brierre]

I will be a student at that same medical school next year and let me tell you something about Miller and the people there. They have enjoyed Donna's blatant, unashamed favoritism since the day she got the job on June 1st, 2001. Bringing in Stavridis, and his predisposition to the law school and international relations, and the medical school can kiss their, "favorite child," position goodbye.

Will he get the job? I think so but I guess it's not set in stone. The medical school people may not think he's the man for the job because now they'll be treated like everyone else. They are a small portion of the search committee. And if they don't think he's the man for the job, that makes me more confident that he will get the job because otherwise they wouldn't be worried about losing their preferential treatment.

i am a current student. second year actually. I think I know something about miller and the people here. you seem to be very well connected to the administration.

Oh good because then you know what I just said is totally correct in terms of their bias in relation to Stavridis getting hired and have more first hand experience then I do. I appreciate the confirmation.

Thanks for the well-connected comment. I try to be.

well, I would say "we" not they to describe Miller.

unrelated, there are way too many foreign exchange students on campus; they are paying 50K to take English courses and read stellar books like the Giver which is taught at elementary schools.

I'm hoping the new president cuts down on those students.

 

[FAKE Chip Brierre]

I think the real question is, is he the most pro-sports of all the potential hires? Do you know the other 3 potential hires? I mean how much did you guys expect the new president to be pro-sports? The reason you hire a president is for academics, plain and simple. The president usually hires an AD to deal with all the football stuff (UF does this well). The new president doesn't have to be someone that grew up loving Canes football, just someone that understands what it means to this school and community.

All the president needs to do is make the right hire at AD. THAT'S IT. and then step out of the AD's way.

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

I will be a student at that same medical school next year and let me tell you something about Miller and the people there. They have enjoyed Donna's blatant, unashamed favoritism since the day she got the job on June 1st, 2001. Bringing in Stavridis, and his predisposition to the law school and international relations, and the medical school can kiss their, "favorite child," position goodbye.

Will he get the job? I think so but I guess it's not set in stone. The medical school people may not think he's the man for the job because now they'll be treated like everyone else. They are a small portion of the search committee. And if they don't think he's the man for the job, that makes me more confident that he will get the job because otherwise they wouldn't be worried about losing their preferential treatment.

i am a current student. second year actually. I think I know something about miller and the people here. you seem to be very well connected to the administration.

Oh good because then you know what I just said is totally correct in terms of their bias in relation to Stavridis getting hired and have more first hand experience then I do. I appreciate the confirmation.

Thanks for the well-connected comment. I try to be.

well, I would say "we" not they to describe Miller.

unrelated, there are way too many foreign exchange students on campus; they are paying 50K to take English courses and read stellar books like the Giver which is taught at elementary schools.

I'm hoping the new president cuts down on those students.

You didn't say if you wanted Stavridis or not so I didn't want to group you win the Deans of Miller wing that doesn't want him seeing as he would be good for the school as a whole and I'm going to Miller next year and I do want Stavridis so not all of Miller is opposed to him. But for the sake of accuracy, we (Those attending or going to be attending Miller) by and large don't want Stavridis and that makes sense. You can't blame a group for looking our for their own self-interests.

If Stavridis does get the job, the foreign exchange number will probably increase. He's the Dean of an International Relations School and his strength, among other things, is his cosmopolitan reach.

By the way, since we're kindred Miller people, would you be talking about Dr. Goldschmidt by any chance? I know he isn't pro-Stavridis.