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If this hire came after a comprehensive nation wide search, I'd be more excited. It does not feel that way.

How does that impact your excitement? One has nothing to do with the other, am I wrong?

I'd be more ready to accept the Butch hire if I knew we held an honest search consisting of candidates outside of the "MIAMI GUYZ!" bubble.

If we aggressively pursued coaches I feel are better qualified, and failed, it would make it easier to embrace this hire. But if we simply hired Butch without exploring other options, it strikes me as lazy and a disservice to this program.

Yeah, you've said that.

About 50 times already.
 
Wait until we end up not landing the studs and winning only 7 or 8 next year. People will lose their minds when they realize the sport no longer supports a recruiter in chief.

You mean like the team that won the NC last year and the team that is currently ranked #1 in the CFB playoff rankings?

All Dabo is a god **** recruiting machine and sunshine pumper on gameday. He was never even a coordinator on any major level before he got the HC gig
 
I guess we're supposed to believe Butch Davis is a better coach and a better fit at his old school than John Robinson, Johnny Majors and Mike Riley with Petrino still pending along with being on par with Bill Snyder. He is supposed to be the exception to the rule in this case.

None of those guys had an interim stint at UNC where they dominated the ACC like Butch did.

Has any other coach won at UNC in just three years or did they have longer?

4 years.
 
Yes, because all of Butch's players are weak, slow and poorly conditioned...

DJ Williams, Sean Taylor, Vilma, Morgan, Webster, James, Najeh, McGahee, McKinnie, Shockey...................................

Terribly weak, awfully slow and unimaginably poorly conditioned - absolutamente!

Better hire a great staff.

And get rid of Swasey.

He hired Swasey. He's not getting rid of him. Enjoy weak, slow, poorly conditioned kids for several more years.
 
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crossover22[]_[];2396171 said:
If this hire came after a comprehensive nation wide search, I'd be more excited. It does not feel that way.

Agreed. Im happy with butch but at least go after the big fish
Love the assumptions that it didn't just because it wasn't public.
 
How long before this board is asking for him to get fired? I say the over/under is 2.5 years
 
Wait until we end up not landing the studs and winning only 7 or 8 next year. People will lose their minds when they realize the sport no longer supports a recruiter in chief.

I'm neither confidant or deflated by a Butch return, but I do think this class would close very solid if Butch is hired. And there is a lot of talent on the roster now. I am more worried about years 2 and 3. He isn't young, and he hasn't been close to the game. Hiring him will have some zing to it initially. Can he still coach and maintain the energy in recruiting is the worrisome question.
 
Wait until we end up not landing the studs and winning only 7 or 8 next year. People will lose their minds when they realize the sport no longer supports a recruiter in chief.

You mean like the team that won the NC last year and the team that is currently ranked #1 in the CFB playoff rankings?

All Dabo is a god **** recruiting machine and sunshine pumper on gameday. He was never even a coordinator on any major level before he got the HC gig

And Dabo was about to get fired until he hired an Xs and Os master in Chad Morris to jumpstart that program. He also went out and got a big time DC from OU in Brent Venables. So like someone said he better have a **** of a staff.
 
Wait until we end up not landing the studs and winning only 7 or 8 next year. People will lose their minds when they realize the sport no longer supports a recruiter in chief.

You mean like the team that won the NC last year and the team that is currently ranked #1 in the CFB playoff rankings?

All Dabo is a god **** recruiting machine and sunshine pumper on gameday. He was never even a coordinator on any major level before he got the HC gig

And Dabo was about to get fired until he hired an Xs and Os master in Chad Morris to jumpstart that program. He also went out and got a big time DC from OU in Brent Venables. So like someone said he better have a **** of a staff.

What coach out there wins with a crappy staff? Why do porsters even porst this dribble
 
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I guess we're supposed to believe Butch Davis is a better coach and a better fit at his old school than John Robinson, Johnny Majors and Mike Riley with Petrino still pending along with being on par with Bill Snyder. He is supposed to be the exception to the rule in this case.

None of those guys had an interim stint at UNC where they dominated the ACC like Butch did.

Has any other coach won at UNC in just three years or did they have longer?

4 years.

you do realize they were ready to roll in year 3 when all the crap hit
they were loaded
 
Wait until we end up not landing the studs and winning only 7 or 8 next year. People will lose their minds when they realize the sport no longer supports a recruiter in chief.

I'm neither confidant or deflated by a Butch return, but I do think this class would close very solid if Butch is hired. And there is a lot of talent on the roster now. I am more worried about years 2 and 3. He isn't young, and he hasn't been close to the game. Hiring him will have some zing to it initially. Can he still coach and maintain the energy in recruiting is the worrisome question.
I'll probably get down voted for even suggesting this but is it possible that opposing coaches actually use Butch to negative recruit us by insinuating that he'll have us on probation again? Most of these kids probably do not even realize that he was cleared in the UNC case but that won't stop the Saban's and Meyers's of the world from using scare tactics.
 
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