Please help me understand - Mario Cristobal

[JHallCanes]

I wouldn't take Mario if his OC was Chip Kelly and his DC was Dan Quinn

 

[BoroCane83]

Mario also hired James Coley at FIU.

 

[gcane101]

Mario also has the praise of all the local HS coaches.

 

[DMoney]

D$ what are your thoughts on Mario as a HC candidate?

He would not be my choice. And given the state of the program, I can understand why people would be angry if he was hired.

However, I think it's possible that he succeeds here. He would need to hire a great staff, which is a reasonable expectation given his history and connections. He would also need to a strong evaluator (no idea how he stacks up here).

I started asking around about Mario back in 2013, and I was surprised by how much support he has in the black community. He is very well-respected. I have also heard from multiple football people (not at UM) who swear he is the right guy.

It's at least feasible that he comes in, signs a Top 10 class this year, infuses an already talented roster with difference-makers (think Calvin Ridley), hires a defensive coordinator who makes a massive difference right away, and rides Kaaya to early success. If he succeeds early, it could breed more success. And he would have young QBs in the pipeline.

So, in sum: not my choice, but I'm not giving up on the program if he's hired.

 

[Consigliere]

D$ what are your thoughts on Mario as a HC candidate?

He would not be my choice. And given the state of the program, I can understand why people would be angry if he was hired.

However, I think it's possible that he succeeds here. He would need to hire a great staff, which is a reasonable expectation given his history and connections. He would also need to a strong evaluator (no idea how he stacks up here).

I started asking around about Mario back in 2013, and I was surprised by how much support he has in the black community. He is very well-respected. I have also heard from multiple football people (not at UM) who swear he is the right guy.

It's at least feasible that he comes in, signs a Top 10 class this year, infuses an already talented roster with difference-makers (think Calvin Ridley), hires a defensive coordinator who makes a massive difference right away, and rides Kaaya to early success. If he succeeds early, it could breed more success. And he would have young QBs in the pipeline.

So, in sum: not my choice, but I'm not giving up on the program if he's hired.

This is not an argument to support any coach.

There is a reason why his name isn't tossed around for coordinator gigs. There is a reason why his name isn't tossed around for HC gigs.

 

[Tad Footeball]

D$ what are your thoughts on Mario as a HC candidate?

He would not be my choice. And given the state of the program, I can understand why people would be angry if he was hired.

However, I think it's possible that he succeeds here. He would need to hire a great staff, which is a reasonable expectation given his history and connections. He would also need to a strong evaluator (no idea how he stacks up here).

I started asking around about Mario back in 2013, and I was surprised by how much support he has in the black community. He is very well-respected. I have also heard from multiple football people (not at UM) who swear he is the right guy.

It's at least feasible that he comes in, signs a Top 10 class this year, infuses an already talented roster with difference-makers (think Calvin Ridley), hires a defensive coordinator who makes a massive difference right away, and rides Kaaya to early success. If he succeeds early, it could breed more success. And he would have young QBs in the pipeline.

So, in sum: not my choice, but I'm not giving up on the program if he's hired.

After your first paragraph the assessment was all downhill.

 

[dedostheibis]

Fired by fiu. Good enough at miami

Lol at recruiting at alabama. Every year they was #1 before mario got there lol they ait going there for freakin mario they going there for nick saban. Lol smh

Come be tight ends coach

 

[Notsince1985]

D$ what are your thoughts on Mario as a HC candidate?

He would not be my choice. And given the state of the program, I can understand why people would be angry if he was hired.

However, I think it's possible that he succeeds here. He would need to hire a great staff, which is a reasonable expectation given his history and connections. He would also need to a strong evaluator (no idea how he stacks up here).

I started asking around about Mario back in 2013, and I was surprised by how much support he has in the black community. He is very well-respected. I have also heard from multiple football people (not at UM) who swear he is the right guy.

It's at least feasible that he comes in, signs a Top 10 class this year, infuses an already talented roster with difference-makers (think Calvin Ridley), hires a defensive coordinator who makes a massive difference right away, and rides Kaaya to early success. If he succeeds early, it could breed more success. And he would have young QBs in the pipeline.

So, in sum: not my choice, but I'm not giving up on the program if he's hired.

Why do I have the feeling he's going to be the choice?

Also, do you get the feeling that the BOT or anyone at UM realizes how many fans DO NOT want him? Also, does the fact that no other school in America wants him, make a difference in their minds?

 

[ghost2]

D$ what are your thoughts on Mario as a HC candidate?

He would not be my choice. And given the state of the program, I can understand why people would be angry if he was hired.

However, I think it's possible that he succeeds here. He would need to hire a great staff, which is a reasonable expectation given his history and connections. He would also need to a strong evaluator (no idea how he stacks up here).

I started asking around about Mario back in 2013, and I was surprised by how much support he has in the black community. He is very well-respected. I have also heard from multiple football people (not at UM) who swear he is the right guy.

It's at least feasible that he comes in, signs a Top 10 class this year, infuses an already talented roster with difference-makers (think Calvin Ridley), hires a defensive coordinator who makes a massive difference right away, and rides Kaaya to early success. If he succeeds early, it could breed more success. And he would have young QBs in the pipeline.

So, in sum: not my choice, but I'm not giving up on the program if he's hired.

I suppose my follow-up question then is: what is the great disconnect between Mario "on paper" and Mario "in person"? On paper, you'd think he wouldn't even get a phone call, let alone be a legitimate candidate for HC here. That said, I keep reading from multiple people who should know better about such things that they think he'd be a great hire and would do well here. So what's the appeal? Is it simply his personality and recruiting acumen? Is he a snake-charmer? I know almost nothing about him except what's "on paper" so I'm genuinely curious - what are we missing?

 

[01Canes]

If Miami fired Golden during the season, paid somewhere between $4 million-$7 million to make the move now, floated to the media that they can spend around $4m per year on the next coach, and then went with the laziest, most unqualified, uninspiring, undeserving candidate on the face of the earth after Coker/Shannon/Golden...

I'd have to turn my back on Miami football at that point. Everyone has a hill to die on. Passing on Herman, Fuente, Butch, and others in favor of Cristobal would be unforgivable. And it would be impossible to overlook the BOT's hypocrisy of still having resentment towards Butch for leaving to go to the NFL while embracing Cristobal back with open arms after he left to take a lateral move at Bama.

 

[Canesfan1899]

D$ what are your thoughts on Mario as a HC candidate?

He would not be my choice. And given the state of the program, I can understand why people would be angry if he was hired.

However, I think it's possible that he succeeds here. He would need to hire a great staff, which is a reasonable expectation given his history and connections. He would also need to a strong evaluator (no idea how he stacks up here).

I started asking around about Mario back in 2013, and I was surprised by how much support he has in the black community. He is very well-respected. I have also heard from multiple football people (not at UM) who swear he is the right guy.

It's at least feasible that he comes in, signs a Top 10 class this year, infuses an already talented roster with difference-makers (think Calvin Ridley), hires a defensive coordinator who makes a massive difference right away, and rides Kaaya to early success. If he succeeds early, it could breed more success. And he would have young QBs in the pipeline.

So, in sum: not my choice, but I'm not giving up on the program if he's hired.

Why do I have the feeling he's going to be the choice?

Also, do you get the feeling that the BOT or anyone at UM realizes how many fans DO NOT want him? Also, does the fact that no other school in America wants him, make a difference in their minds?

Because we constantly **** these decisions up.

 

[Tad Footeball]

D$ what are your thoughts on Mario as a HC candidate?

He would not be my choice. And given the state of the program, I can understand why people would be angry if he was hired.

However, I think it's possible that he succeeds here. He would need to hire a great staff, which is a reasonable expectation given his history and connections. He would also need to a strong evaluator (no idea how he stacks up here).

I started asking around about Mario back in 2013, and I was surprised by how much support he has in the black community. He is very well-respected. I have also heard from multiple football people (not at UM) who swear he is the right guy.

It's at least feasible that he comes in, signs a Top 10 class this year, infuses an already talented roster with difference-makers (think Calvin Ridley), hires a defensive coordinator who makes a massive difference right away, and rides Kaaya to early success. If he succeeds early, it could breed more success. And he would have young QBs in the pipeline.

So, in sum: not my choice, but I'm not giving up on the program if he's hired.

I suppose my follow-up question then is: what is the great disconnect between Mario "on paper" and Mario "in person"? On paper, you'd think he wouldn't even get a phone call, let alone be a legitimate candidate for HC here. That said, I keep reading from multiple people who should know better about such things that they think he'd be a great hire and would do well here. So what's the appeal? Is it simply his personality and recruiting acumen? Is he a snake-charmer? I know almost nothing about him except "on paper" so I'm genuinely curious - what are we missing?

Exactly. Where is ONE person raving about his actual COACHING at Alabamy? There are fans of that program screaming about it sucking as of THIS WEEK.

GTFOH with the "black community" here loving him or unnamed corches thinking he'd 'kill" here simply because they're enamored with Bama. That's all meaningless prattle.

 

[AUcane]

D$ what are your thoughts on Mario as a HC candidate?

He would not be my choice. And given the state of the program, I can understand why people would be angry if he was hired.

However, I think it's possible that he succeeds here. He would need to hire a great staff, which is a reasonable expectation given his history and connections. He would also need to a strong evaluator (no idea how he stacks up here).

I started asking around about Mario back in 2013, and I was surprised by how much support he has in the black community. He is very well-respected. I have also heard from multiple football people (not at UM) who swear he is the right guy.

It's at least feasible that he comes in, signs a Top 10 class this year, infuses an already talented roster with difference-makers (think Calvin Ridley), hires a defensive coordinator who makes a massive difference right away, and rides Kaaya to early success. If he succeeds early, it could breed more success. And he would have young QBs in the pipeline.

So, in sum: not my choice, but I'm not giving up on the program if he's hired.

I suppose my follow-up question then is: what is the great disconnect between Mario "on paper" and Mario "in person"? On paper, you'd think he wouldn't even get a phone call, let alone be a legitimate candidate for HC here. That said, I keep reading from multiple people who should know better about such things that they think he'd be a great hire and would do well here. So what's the appeal? Is it simply his personality and recruiting acumen? Is he a snake-charmer? I know almost nothing about him except "on paper" so I'm genuinely curious - what are we missing?

Exactly. Where is ONE person raving about his actual COACHING at Alabamy? There are fans of that program screaming about it sucking as of THIS WEEK.

GTFOH with the "black community" here loving him or unnamed corches thinking he'd 'kill" here simply because they're enamored with Bama. That's all meaningless prattle.

Yep, I'd caution following "what the local coaches feel" thread. They were PINING for Randy to be hired (Luke was championing that cause) and look where that ended up.

 

[DMoney]

There is a reason why his name isn't tossed around for coordinator gigs. There is a reason why his name isn't tossed around for HC gigs.

To be fair, Pittsburgh and Rutgers tried to hire him. From what I've been told, those interviews ****ed off Pete Garcia and ultimately led to his firing.

Of course, we're talking about Pittsburgh and Rutgers, not Miami.

 

[ScubaCane]

There isn't one aspect of his resume that's impressive, he should not even get an interview

 

[Notsince1985]

There is a reason why his name isn't tossed around for coordinator gigs. There is a reason why his name isn't tossed around for HC gigs.

To be fair, Pittsburgh and Rutgers tried to hire him. From what I've been told, those interviews ****ed off Pete Garcia and ultimately led to his firing.

Of course, we're talking about Pittsburgh and Rutgers, not Miami.

That was when he was "hot" which is a relative term. And, as you say, that's Pitt and Rutgers. Now, is anyone else this cycle even remotely interested in him? I'll hang up and listen.

 

[NVA CANE]

D$ what are your thoughts on Mario as a HC candidate?

He would not be my choice. And given the state of the program, I can understand why people would be angry if he was hired.

However, I think it's possible that he succeeds here. He would need to hire a great staff, which is a reasonable expectation given his history and connections. He would also need to a strong evaluator (no idea how he stacks up here).

I started asking around about Mario back in 2013, and I was surprised by how much support he has in the black community. He is very well-respected. I have also heard from multiple football people (not at UM) who swear he is the right guy.

It's at least feasible that he comes in, signs a Top 10 class this year, infuses an already talented roster with difference-makers (think Calvin Ridley), hires a defensive coordinator who makes a massive difference right away, and rides Kaaya to early success. If he succeeds early, it could breed more success. And he would have young QBs in the pipeline.

So, in sum: not my choice, but I'm not giving up on the program if he's hired.

I suppose my follow-up question then is: what is the great disconnect between Mario "on paper" and Mario "in person"? On paper, you'd think he wouldn't even get a phone call, let alone be a legitimate candidate for HC here. That said, I keep reading from multiple people who should know better about such things that they think he'd be a great hire and would do well here. So what's the appeal? Is it simply his personality and recruiting acumen? Is he a snake-charmer? I know almost nothing about him except "on paper" so I'm genuinely curious - what are we missing?

Exactly. Where is ONE person raving about his actual COACHING at Alabamy? There are fans of that program screaming about it sucking as of THIS WEEK.

GTFOH with the "black community" here loving him or unnamed corches thinking he'd 'kill" here simply because they're enamored with Bama. That's all meaningless prattle.

The problem is everything D$ mentioned has nothing to do with on the field success. It's all recruiting and ties to the community. Also a lot of IFs, if he hires a good DC, IF Kaaya stays two years. There is nothing tangible in his resume.

 

[Canesfan1899]

There is a reason why his name isn't tossed around for coordinator gigs. There is a reason why his name isn't tossed around for HC gigs.

To be fair, Pittsburgh and Rutgers tried to hire him. From what I've been told, those interviews ****ed off Pete Garcia and ultimately led to his firing.

Of course, we're talking about Pittsburgh and Rutgers, not Miami.

And had he actually gone there and been successful we might be having a different discussion. Instead we are looking at a guy that failed in his last season at FIU and has been an OL coach at Alabama.

As Lu and others have pointed out the HC should be dynamic in some areas and have some coordinator experience. Mario has never been an OC and from what some have said his OL's at Bama have not been as impressive since he got there.

With any new coach you are going to usually see some attrition from the existing class of recruits and then a surge for their first recruiting class. I'm not as worried about needing a recruiter, Miami recruits itself when the team is successful. We need an X's and O's coach that can assemble a great staff of teachers. Cristobal Does not fit that requirement.

 

[The Franchise]

For you anti Mario guys, would you take Mario if he came in with a DC like Todd Orlando and an up and comer for an OC?

There's a lot more to being a HC than picking coordinators. How many failure HCs do the coordinator shuffle every couple years trying to salvage their jobs?

Fck Cristobag under ANY circumstances. On a side note, it's interesting how people hold a 20 year grudge on Butch for taking an NFL job (a promotion that ANY college HC takes) yet they're ready to slather up the faqgit who quit here after 3 weeks to take a lateral gig at a program that competes with UM for recruits. Traitor faqgit quits after a few weeks, trashes UM every chance he gets to sell recruits to Bama, and the little star struck putas in Miami are on their knees for him.

 

[52CANES]

I dont want anyone that isnt an elite coach on at least ine side of the ball. I dont care which side.