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Paying Players (per BJ's latest piece)

Andrew said:
I live in Georgia and plenty of money gets spent on kids cars. Look in the parking lots at Alpharetta or Milton High School. Your point is generally valid and I think giving the kid his college savings towards a house is a better investment than towards a car. That being said Nolan Smith is projected to be a pretty good football player. To be honest, if I had a son getting a full ride to the U on a football scholarship then I would buy him a $70k truck (with his college money and not a Ford).
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I would be willing to bet the people in those high schools driving around in 75k cars parents are not doctors, but businessmen making A lot more than 250k a year. That is certainly a possibility. I think though if the parent was a doctor they would realize the risk of a player getting injured and having that 75k to spend later down the line would be a lot better than blowing it on a raptor. It is a possibility, but the odds still are in favor of the school paying for it.
 
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Walsh5 said:
https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article223482355.html

"Privately, UM people from the past two regimes said they can’t get a few of the top players who are inclined to take illegal payments in the corrupt world of college athletics."

I say we start paying guys because it's the only way you can compete. And by paying, I mean through creative means, not outsourcing it to loose cannons like Nevin Shapiro. That's why we got caught.

Clemson straight up pays their players on recruiting visits (they joke about it to my buddy who coaches at Michigan when they come on visits). Clemson and Georgia will also pay those expensive insurance policies (which I think is a reason why they got guys to stay). At Texas, every single starter gets 350 in cash from the boosters after every game. At Georgia, they'll go into a recruit's neighborhood and buy their home for double the sale prices of homes in the same neighborhood (kind of genius if you ask me). And of course Alabama will move your whole family out to Tuscaloosa and give them six figure no show jobs like the mob does in NYC.

Another side note on Texas... they make so much effing money that every year they have around 50 million dollars in cash just sitting there every year after their operating expenses are paid. I know this because my brother's hedge fund specifically manages the UT athletic cash endowment.

Unfortunately, that's the reality of today's game... Clemson went from 7-6 to a powerhouse overnight because of paying players.
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This is about the greatest post I have read this year so far! 3 days in Lol. Great points, and I agree with all of it the problem is that the NCAA won't crack down on those huge Universities.
 
Start paying players openly and college football will become the junior NFL. It will fvck it up forever. All this happy talk about paying players completely ignores the majority of schools that simply do not have the money to pay them. Players will become employees of the school with all the shenanigans that goes along with it. It will surely ruin the sport.
 
wasn't it post 2000 that the ncaa then considered the death penalty for alabaga football? amazing how some changes in the ncaa and networks can take a program that has been historically as bad as there is over decades to a program that no longer seems to get looked at
 
stormsurge said:
wasn't it post 2000 that the ncaa then considered the death penalty for alabaga football? amazing how some changes in the ncaa and networks can take a program that has been historically as bad as there is over decades to a program that no longer seems to get looked at
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They organized.
 
stormsurge said:
wasn't it post 2000 that the ncaa then considered the death penalty for alabaga football? amazing how some changes in the ncaa and networks can take a program that has been historically as bad as there is over decades to a program that no longer seems to get looked at
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Two words: Mike Slive.

When he took over, almost half the SEC schools were on probation. He basically forbid them from ratting each other out (remember how Miss St got in more trouble than Auburn over turning over the Scam Newton tapes).

Slive realized that it was hurting the SEC's brand to have all the schools turning each other in. It was him, with a lot of help from ESPN (which practically owns the sport now, and has a greater hand in the current landscape of a few select teams dominating than they'd ever admit) that started the whole 'conference pride' bull****.

Now, with the conferences having more clout than the NCAA, with the biggest (and often, only) journalistic entity, in ESPN, doing the whole 'hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil' routine...just who is going to blow the whistle anymore?
 
What we need is the NFL to start a farm system or be able to sign maybe the top 200 high school kids each year. About 7 kids per NFL team. Maybe pay them 50-100k a year to learn and train but eventually play in 3 years or so.

This would even the playing field a bit. I’m guessing that the top 200 are cream of crop while the next 1000 kids are on the same playing field.
 
TheRichtShow said:
I mean, we stand zero chance of winning a bidding war for a recruit Bama/Georgia want, even if we decided to go that route.

Coaches have to figure out how to recruit against this reality.

Honestly, I'm pretty sure Mario runs a clean program, as does Harbaugh. Two top-5 classes. So SEC bags hurt us but its not like you cant recruit because of it
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Neither coach u just mentioned runs a clean program. Mario has Phil/Nike booster money and Jim knows **** well about the “big blue shadow booster network” that pays players. Plausible deniability.
 
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Andrew said:
Kind of silly for you to say that there is a 0 percent chance that a household making $250k would spend $70k on a truck for their kid. Neither of us knows how that truck was paid for but we do know his parents could afford it and plenty of people in their income class spend $70k on a vehicle.
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Defending Georgia again? I for one am shocked.
 
OriginalGatorHater said:
Oh for sure. There are TONS of ways to pull this off and I am sure some of the sketchier members of the BOT have some really really good tactics to pull this off.

LMAO that would be hilarious and much better than the turnover purse.
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To me it's not so much "sketchy" as the way things are. It's not terribly far from pork-barrel spending or hiring a litany of coaches as "analysts" getting paid $1.5 million a year.

Philip Frost is a huge trustee. His optometry practice/patents/products got so big he created his own investment bank, Ladenburg Thalmann. He knows what to do.

I used to work (indirectly) for David Epstein. He was a part owner of the Panthers. He knows what to do.

Stuart Miller, Jorge Perez, Paul DiMare and Leonard Abess know what to do.

But they also can't have their fingerprints anywhere near it, for good reason.

There can be a better mousetrap.
 
Ethnicsands said:
The UGA buy the house plan is funny, but those trades have records. If it could be shown the price made no sense in that market and a booster was associated iwth the payment....
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Hear what you're saying but it's a mistake to conflate the two things. Most people look at IRS issues as NCAA issues, and they're completely different. For example, you sell a $500K house from a booster to a recruit's uncle. Might not necessarily be an NCAA violation (just using as an example, I don't know), bu the IRS sure would want some info on that.

On the flipside, a prominent player gets a meal at Fogo de Chao. Probably worth around $150. Does the IRS care? Not one bit. But the NCAA (if it's Miami) wants to shut down the program.
 
WhatTheHell said:
So is it the belief of our fans that we do not pay players at all?
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I'm of the "belief" that we do not "pay" players at all. "Pay" is very gray. But I don't believe for one second the administration is complicit with rogue boosters dropping bags on players.
 
TheRichtShow said:
My parents make six figures, I went to college on a scholarship, and I sure as **** didnt get a $70,000 car.

Actually I dont know anyone in my upper-middle class neighborhood who had their parents drop that on a car.

Nolan got paid a lot and that truck is just an appetizer.
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I was gonna say the same. My parents were by no means rich, but I know money. Parents on a six figure salary might have a Lexus SUV and a Mercedes coupe, but the kids sure as **** aren't getting $70K rides. Maybe an entry-level BMW 3-series.

That type of spending takes millionaire parents.
 
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I heard Randall hill say Bama players get to have their future kids go to Bama for free. We could start with something like that. It’s not a 70k car but it’s worth a lot
 
OriginalGatorHater said:
Oh for sure. There are TONS of ways to pull this off and I am sure some of the sketchier members of the BOT have some really really good tactics to pull this off.

LMAO that would be hilarious and much better than the turnover purse.
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That's the stupidest thing of all time. Those players looked so stupid putting that thing on. What was Willie Taggerst thinking?
 
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