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NFL OT: I'm riding with AB on this one..

Tad Footeball said:
No doubt Gronk is a caveman meathead but he's pretty much kept under control off the field. Just saying that AB's recent lunacy actually has been accompanied by a lot of off the field antics and issues that are falling just short (for now) of really causing him a problem.
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Really? He's a goofball off the field that gets passes because he's liked. When he injured White I lost count how many times people on ESPN said " He's a good guy" giving him a pass. AB is flawed but I have yet to see a teammate say he's been a problem foe them and I admit he gives 0 ***** and he's hard to deal with but I don't see him belittling or acting like he's better then teammates
 
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CaneOil said:
Agree with everything but the end where you said Jordanlike and carry can a team to a championship. Jordan got his *** crushed in his prime when he played Boston until the great players left or got hurt. The Celtics beat down Jordan I think 17 times in a row. I was there in the Garden for most of wins there. Celtics swept them in the playoffs a couple times. Jordan couldn't even beat Detroit until 91. Jordan never beat the best teams, he got slaughtered. I just can't help myself. lol
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LOL you mean the series he dropped 63 and 49 points while shooting over 50% from the field? Or the next season series where he averaged over 35 points, 7 rebounds, 6 assists, 2 steals, and 2 blocks? "Jordan got his *** crushed in his prime.." Go back to sucking off Brady.
 
Liberty City El said:


I agree with Hines Ward (who I hated when he was a player) 100%.
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He keeps making this a Ben vs Ab thing and he’s pushing that for an obvious reason. Nobody likes either , his teammates probably don’t like either. But Ab has had issues with a bunch of people on the team , upper management and ownership for years. It’s way more than Ben.

But like I said , he’s going to push the Ben part for obvious reasons, I’m just not blind enough to play into that. They’re both considered heels by most players and fans. Even the Pit fans I know say their fan base dislikes Ben.
 
caneallday21 said:
Really? He's a goofball off the field that gets passes because he's liked. When he injured White I lost count how many times people on ESPN said " He's a good guy" giving him a pass. AB is flawed but I have yet to see a teammate say he's been a problem foe them and I admit he gives 0 ***** and he's hard to deal with but I don't see him belittling or acting like he's better then teammates
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I'm no Gronk fan as I despise the Pats but the key difference is that AB is now tip-toeing around the line involving criminal activity, police reports, lawsuits, etc. whereas Gronk gets passes for social media posts involving **** stars or acting like a caveman meathead in a night club after a loss.

IF Gronk ever actually runs afoul of the law or has a domestic violence accusation then EVERYONE is gonna pounce and deservedly so.
 
Liberty City El said:
Both AB & Ben are bad teammates, the only difference is one is supported by the Front office while the other is ostracized, that's what caused the problem in the locker room.

You can't preach accountability when the rules don't apply to everyone equally. The GM & Head Coach are most responsible for the whole thing.
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AB has way more issues dude, from Tomlin, other teammates and management.


Just listen to Ryan Clark. He’s still very close to that situation , Ab’s teammates and coaches dislike him. Theyre tired of him and all his drama. He’s spoken on this for awhile.

But I agree both are bad teammates.
 
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Tad Footeball said:
I'm no Gronk fan as I despise the Pats but the key difference is that AB is now tip-toeing around the line involving criminal activity, police reports, lawsuits, etc. whereas Gronk gets passes for social media posts involving **** stars or acting like a caveman meathead in a night club after a loss.

IF Gronk ever actually runs afoul of the law then EVERYONE is gonna pounce and deservedly so.
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Ok but AB had a speeding innocent which is bad but if we're going there we'd lose count of how many men and women would have mutliple speeding tickets and the domestic situation from what I remember was very vague and she didn't even press charges so for all we know it could be nothing. In fact has he ever been arrested?
 
Cribby said:
Why is it big when he does it but all the other players call guys out it’s cool?

Lbj calls teammates out weekly , gets coaches fired , while being an awful defender the last two years. Dude has been rated in the 300’s d rating but calls young teammates out all the time. While watching guys shoot wide open threes. But that’s cool right ?

Let’s be real , if Ben was black everyone would be cool with him calling guys out. It’s common.

Like I said “ both are **** people “ but going awol and quitting is the one no no. Especially in football.
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Lebron James is the best player in his game and has been for over a decade.

Big Ben is a fat, white, avg qb tryna call people out when he aint sh*t really.lol

AB is more in line at his position than Big Ben honestly.
 
caneallday21 said:
Ok but AB had a speeding innocent which is bad but if we're going there we'd lose count of how many men and women would have mutliple speeding tickets and the domestic situation from what I remember was very vague and she didn't even press charges so for all we know it could be nothing. In fact has he ever been arrested?
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That's why I said he's tip-toeing around the line. All the events were clustered around his nonsense this year too. The speeding thing could've been an arrest worthy deal, the domestic violence thing is always an issue in today's NFL no matter how minimal and then the deal where he does look mentally ill as he's firing furniture off a balcony. That's a lot of little red flags and a bad trendline in the span of a year.
 
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Cribby said:
AB has way more issues dude, from Tomlin, other teammates and management.


Just listen to Ryan Clark.

But I agree both are bad teammates.
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I don't care about what Ryan Clark says for 2 reasons. 1. He runs his mouth about people he legit doesn't like Stephen A Smith who checked him and he did nothing about it, Tannehill who he never met but hates with a passion for some reason and AB who as a man call him up if you have a beef instead of looking for headlines. 2. Every NFL team going through a bad breakup with a player puts out hoq horrible a guy he is and the Steelers have big mouth Clark who will take the heat for them because what a shock he decides to talk when everybody knows AB is done
 
Mr. Dynasty1 said:
Tomlin is part of the prob. AB absolutely acts like an ***. He is a diva and this is how Diva WR's act. Never said it was cool. However, I agree with AB on this. Big Ben has it made in the shade, finger never gets pointed at him and its always other people fault. Not everyone is going to sit around and take that. Part of the reason James Harrison was happy to leave.
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Big Ben is the QB and if he leaves would leave a much bigger void in the offense than a WR. That is why he gets special treatment.
 
gogeta4 said:
Lebron James is the best player in his game and has been for over a decade.

Big Ben is a fat, white, avg qb tryna call people out when he aint sh*t really.lol

AB is more in line at his position than Big Ben honestly.
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He just threw for over 5000 yds and is a sure fire Hall of Famer. There are reasons not to like the dude (as there are with Lebron) but he ain't average and that team is complete junk without him.
 
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Tad Footeball said:
That's why I said he's tip-toeing around the line. All the events were clustered around his nonsense this year too. The speeding thing could've been an arrest worthy deal, the domestic violence thing is always an issue in today's NFL no matter how minimal and then the deal where he does look mentally ill as he's firing furniture off a balcony. That's a lot of little red flags and a bad trendline in the span of a year.
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A couple things in a decade doesn't make it a horrible guy it IMO can be mistakes I personally need more before I think its more then that
 
gogeta4 said:
Lebron James is the best player in his game and has been for over a decade.

Big Ben is a fat, white, avg qb tryna call people out when he aint sh*t really.lol

AB is more in line at his position than Big Ben honestly.
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But he’s sucking and not playing defense , that’s a horrible look. Dude has been an awful defender for two years , yet he’s calling out effort lol. As he stands and watches guys shoot open threes.

But ok , I guess that’s cool.

Ben is an hof qb with rings , he’s not exactly chopped liver. Honestly all three are awful teammates but hey , whatever.
 
caneallday21 said:
I don't care about what Ryan Clark says for 2 reasons. 1. He runs his mouth about people he legit doesn't like Stephen A Smith who checked him and he did nothing about it, Tannehill who he never met but hates with a passion for some reason and AB who as a man call him up if you have a beef instead of looking for headlines. 2. Every NFL team going through a bad breakup with a player puts out hoq horrible a guy he is and the Steelers have big mouth Clark who will take the heat for them because what a shock he decides to talk when everybody knows AB is done
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Of course he doesn’t like him, he’s a team guy that’s a great teammate, why would he?


Dude has been crying non stop for multiple years lol. While getting huge money.

Players in that locker room hate him , it’s not just RC. Ryan is just keeping it real , and was a great teammate and player rep.

AB has constantly disrespected Tomlin and teammates.

But keep sticking up for the jerk, yet you rip the player loved by his teammates and coaches.

Support the guy who goes awol and quit on his team. And yes that’s how he’s viewed there.
 
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caneallday21 said:
I don't care about what Ryan Clark says for 2 reasons. 1. He runs his mouth about people he legit doesn't like Stephen A Smith who checked him and he did nothing about it, Tannehill who he never met but hates with a passion for some reason and AB who as a man call him up if you have a beef instead of looking for headlines. 2. Every NFL team going through a bad breakup with a player puts out hoq horrible a guy he is and the Steelers have big mouth Clark who will take the heat for them because what a shock he decides to talk when everybody knows AB is done
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Ryan Clark likely already got the Liberty City 1-2 from AB and doesnt want any smoke and has held a grudge ever since.
 
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Cribby said:
Dude has been crying non stop for multiple years lol. While getting huge money.

Players in that locker rom hate him , it’s not just RC. Ryan is just keeping it real , and was a great teammate and player rep. AB has constantly disrespected Tomlin and teammates.

But keep sticking up for the jerk, yet you rip the player loved by his teammates and coaches.



Makes sense. Support the guy who goes awol and quit on his team. And yes that’s how he’s viewed theee:
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Ok but mad players ask for more money that's their right when they produce and these players im asking who? The olinemen were tripping over each other to rip Lev yet nobody is checkinf AB so I doubt they're scared so what's stopping them? Lev did it for his health and money AB to some just flat out quit yet I'm not seeing anybody say anything but the big mouth former player who tries to act tough then runs away when people respond
 
Tad Footeball said:
He just threw for over 5000 yds and is a sure fire Hall of Famer. There are reasons not to like the dude (as there are Lebron) but he ain't average and that team is complete junk without him.
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Oh for sure i believe so. But AB as a player is BETTER imo at his position. He's the best wr in the league.
 
Cribby said:
But he’s sucking and not playing defense , that’s a horrible look. Dude has been an awful defender for two years , yet he’s calling out effort lol. As he stands and watches guys shoot open threes.

But ok , I guess that’s cool.

Ben is an hof qb with rings , he’s not exactly chopped liver. Honestly all three are awful teammates but hey , whatever.
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Dawg ...Lebron James lives in the nba finals....like its the Lebronm finals..he can literally pull out a folding chair on defense and no one gives a f..He carries his team. Big Ben aint in the same stratosphere. Lebron can call out whatever the **** he wants at this point.lol

I dont like it but it is what it is.
 
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