No not lame duck but kids that have talent but a kid that has more is pushed to the side.
Chase Smith: from Palm Bay, 4*, former Safety, WR/OLB Legacy recruit. Dad played TE here.
Jacorey Hammet: 3* edge rusher from MNW
Again Player B is talented but tell me the logic of taking him over player A at OLB when he was a safety and has experience dropping in coverage plus ball skill. Similar bodies and frames and you could make an argument that Chase has the better frame just off bloodline. This is what I’m talking about.
what do you mean lol? Smith ain’t going to come here because he took the last OLB spot. This wasn’t a comparison. Hammett is coming here over Smith.CHASE SMITH is a kid i want in this class bad, bad his dc is pimping him to us as he played for Manny at Miss State.
That being said Jacorey Hammet is likely top 3 edge rushers in south florida....and is from our most notable pipeline school.
I want both ...it wasnt an either or thing i think they both play different positions.
Imma keep it a buck im taking a MNW or an STA stud over most kids that are marginably close.
This wasnt a good comparison @Zbrod95.
And to be clear, I’m all for signing sleepers with traits from out of state. I sent Braxton Berrios and Poona Ford to the staff, and was all over my contacts to offer James Pogorelc last year (he blew up and signed with Stanford).
But I can’t get behind an emotional argument to drastically change our recruiting philosophy just because some local blue-chips treated us the same way national blue-chips treat us.
what do you mean lol? Smith ain’t going to come here because he took the last OLB spot. This wasn’t a comparison. Hammett is coming here over Smith.
this happens all the **** time and y’all scream “Pipeline”. How about not taking a lesser player that’s never been anything more than an edge rusher. Maybe then we could have some quality linebacker play. There was 3 backer spots. 2 of them went to Johnson and Hammett. The other is an inside Backer which is going to Hood or Fordham. They chose a kid who has never dropped into coverage or has the athleticism of Chase Smith and y’all are ok with it because “MNW bro”.
It’s no longer Blue chip talent that’s doing the old hat toss that started on our decline in 2005...
The only hat toss on NSD this year was Romello Height.
What part of South Florida is he from?
I know, I asked it. They still haven’t given me a position but what way it’s described it seemed like LB so they must be taking 4Lol, well I just saw one of the mods on ITU say Smith is still a priority so?
I’m sorry but where’s Francois from again?The only hat toss on NSD this year was Romello Height.
What part of South Florida is he from?
The only hat toss on NSD this year was Romello Height.
What part of South Florida is he from?
I’m sorry but where’s Francois from again?
Oh so same place as Frank Ladson and Tyrique?Same place as Chaney.
Look I’m not trying to be rude but you and a few others absolute hard stance on spending MAYBE 20-30% of recruiting time/budget outside of Florida is absolutely astonishing
I’ve sent out-of-state three stars to the staff. One of them signed with us and had a great career. I know there is talent elsewhere.
What I won’t do is get emotional like a jilted girlfriend because big local recruits leave us. I prefer evidence.
The evidence suggests that our out-of-state recruits are more likely to be busts, on average. A more national approach isn’t fixing anything right now. Out-of-state studs will shun us even more than local studs, and we will struggle to evaluate the further away we get.
The only solution is to win.
I agree. Winning is a must if we want to get back to signing blue chip recruits who in turn will help us return to sustained excellence.
But why do teams like Minnesota have sucesss recruiting Florida kids? Remember that LB we wanted two cycles ago? Chose to play in that cold *** state than Miami... times are changing kids realize they can be successful anywhere and the middle tier kids aren’t crapping their pants because Miami decided to offer them..
Some of the best players to every play for the U or even in recent years came from out of state
CHASE SMITH is a kid i want in this class bad, bad his dc is pimping him to us as he played for Manny at Miss State.
That being said Jacorey Hammet is likely top 3 edge rushers in south florida....and is from our most notable pipeline school.
I want both ...it wasnt an either or thing i think they both play different positions.
Imma keep it a buck im taking a MNW or an STA stud over most kids that are marginably close.
This wasnt a good comparison @Zbrod95.
Hence why we should not limit ourselves to certain areas... we need to expand the board nationally and find more kids with talent.Times arent changing....we are NOW a middle tier program.
Miami coaching staff recruits like were a playoff team...add to it we just have POOR recruiters. They have nothing of merit to show recruits for what they have done, hence Likens walking in and being able to sell on him getting 2 wrs drafted 1st round...Dugans just had his donk. Patke has nothing, Rumph nothing, Banda is a solid recruiter i guess he tries.
Hammett, Smith, and one of either T.Johnson or Hood?