Okay let's talk Butch...again..

[niner]

LMAO at had no knowledge of any wrong doing.

28-22 sucks no matter how you slice it. The true test would have been to do it at UNC, you know, coaching and all that, winning the ACC Coastal, winning 10 games, all that good stuff that he is supposed to bring automatically because he did it at UM back in the day.

 

[sabrose]

Butch really divides the UM fans with most on his side and a few pedantic holdouts dead set against him. Things are very different now than 15 yrs ago. The BOT has no hire and fire capability other than the president.The BOT and Shalala have failed the football team. Change is needed.The old farts against Butch have no power. Blake will be given that authority. He likes Butch .Butch will come cheap and bring a great staff. Its possible.

 

[UMFarArcher]

LMAO at had no knowledge of any wrong doing.

28-22 sucks no matter how you slice it. The true test would have been to do it at UNC, you know, coaching and all that, winning the ACC Coastal, winning 10 games, all that good stuff that he is supposed to bring automatically because he did it at UM back in the day.

You frequently suggest Butch knew or even had complicity in something that was installed at UNC many years before Butch ever arrived there.

I've frequently asked for someone - especially you - either provide some specifics - hard evidence, or STFU!

You can't. The NCAA investigated - rendered Butch clean

University of North Carolina investigated - rendered Butch clean - long after he was fired.

North Carolina Attorney General investigated - rendered Butch clean.

So if you have evidence to the contrary - post it or go in your closet and rub one out.

 

[pimpcane1]

Butch really divides the UM fans with most on his side and a few pedantic holdouts dead set against him. Things are very different now than 15 yrs ago. The BOT has no hire and fire capability other than the president.The BOT and Shalala have failed the football team. Change is needed.The old farts against Butch have no power. Blake will be given that authority. He likes Butch .Butch will come cheap and bring a great staff. Its possible.

If you truly believe the BOT has no hiring and firing capability you are either naive or misinformed. Their usually the ones paying the bills and they don't just blindly sign the checks without having input. But don't let me stop you from your narrative.

 

[niner]

LMAO at had no knowledge of any wrong doing.

28-22 sucks no matter how you slice it. The true test would have been to do it at UNC, you know, coaching and all that, winning the ACC Coastal, winning 10 games, all that good stuff that he is supposed to bring automatically because he did it at UM back in the day.

You frequently suggest Butch knew or even had complicity in something that was installed at UNC many years before Butch ever arrived there.

I've frequently asked for someone - especially you - either provide some specifics - hard evidence, or STFU!

You can't. The NCAA investigated - rendered Butch clean

University of North Carolina investigated - rendered Butch clean - long after he was fired.

North Carolina Attorney General investigated - rendered Butch clean.

So if you have evidence to the contrary - post it or go in your closet and rub one out.

Ohh no no no,not me, the actual UNC player is the one who "suggested" EVERYONE KNEW!! Matter of fact, he said Butch told him, "If y'all came here for an education, you should have gone to Harvard." Powell characterized the remark as deeply discouraging. "When somebody say that, man," he s, "what [are] we supposed to do?"

Players cheating like a mo fo to get in and stay eligible, yet couldn't win the Coastal. Isn't the HC SUPPOSED to know what the **** is going on with his team? What good is he if he can't control his players or staff. And you want to bring that lack of control here, after another coach didnt have control of his staff. GTFOH!

28-22 while cheating. Atleast the other schools that cheat have something to show for it, something for the NCAA to take away.

Get off the ninjas nuts! Coooddaam!

 

[Canez1]

I think if the fan base created the same atmosphere to bring Butch back as was made to get rid of Al then Butch would be hired back. Basically enough chatter to make the BOT and AD think they came up with the whole idea in the first place. Former players hitting the airwaves making noise would be a huge benefit.

 

[capefearcane]

LMAO at had no knowledge of any wrong doing.

28-22 sucks no matter how you slice it. The true test would have been to do it at UNC, you know, coaching and all that, winning the ACC Coastal, winning 10 games, all that good stuff that he is supposed to bring automatically because he did it at UM back in the day.

You frequently suggest Butch knew or even had complicity in something that was installed at UNC many years before Butch ever arrived there.

I've frequently asked for someone - especially you - either provide some specifics - hard evidence, or STFU!

You can't. The NCAA investigated - rendered Butch clean

University of North Carolina investigated - rendered Butch clean - long after he was fired.

North Carolina Attorney General investigated - rendered Butch clean.

So if you have evidence to the contrary - post it or go in your closet and rub one out.

But he still will need a "minder" to watch the store.

 

[UMFarArcher]

LMAO at had no knowledge of any wrong doing.

28-22 sucks no matter how you slice it. The true test would have been to do it at UNC, you know, coaching and all that, winning the ACC Coastal, winning 10 games, all that good stuff that he is supposed to bring automatically because he did it at UM back in the day.

You frequently suggest Butch knew or even had complicity in something that was installed at UNC many years before Butch ever arrived there.

I've frequently asked for someone - especially you - either provide some specifics - hard evidence, or STFU!

You can't. The NCAA investigated - rendered Butch clean

University of North Carolina investigated - rendered Butch clean - long after he was fired.

North Carolina Attorney General investigated - rendered Butch clean.

So if you have evidence to the contrary - post it or go in your closet and rub one out.

Ohh no no no,not me, the actual UNC player is the one who "suggested" EVERYONE KNEW!! Matter of fact, he said Butch told him, "If y'all came here for an education, you should have gone to Harvard." Powell characterized the remark as deeply discouraging. "When somebody say that, man," he s, "what [are] we supposed to do?"

Players cheating like a mo fo to get in and stay eligible, yet couldn't win the Coastal. Isn't the HC SUPPOSED to know what the **** is going on with his team? What good is he if he can't control his players or staff. And you want to bring that lack of control here, after another coach didnt have control of his staff. GTFOH!

28-22 while cheating. Atleast the other schools that cheat have something to show for it, something for the NCAA to take away.

Get off the ninjas nuts! Coooddaam!

THAT'S IT? That's all you got?

A player "suggested" that Butch knew? Yet investigators, trying hard to make a connection - couldn't?

Ever consider the actual words in that quote? How true it is? If all they were after was an education - and capable of just going after an education - they would be at Harvard. Princeton. MIT.

He was telling THEM that they were going to do the work.

A coach is supposed to know WTH is going on with his team? I'm sure your momma knew all the things YOU did, didn't she? How damned stupid of an assumption.

Butch actually was recognized as improving the educational elements of his players. Butch was also hired at Miami to clean up a big mess, and he did.

Ever wonder why a ton of players quit at Miami when he laid down the law? Naw, you're not deep enough.

You hear something, learn by rote, and regurgitate the same vomit you read.

Miami has some of the most ignorant fans in football - and I thought West Virginia had all the dumbasses.

 

[niner]

:ibis-roflmao-sm4:

You asked to be shown some kind of proof, and you dont like it, talmbout what it could mean or what he prolly meant was... What are you looking for, video of Butch signing them up for the classes?


You can ignore it all you want and claim he had no knowledge all you want, make all the excuses for the old man all you want, which would just make Butch a dumbass for being the ONLY one who didnt know. But I mean cooddam, he was there 4 years!

Keep believing that buddy, EVERYONE knew but him.

Ohh, and these are real...

 

[niner]

Then you have:

"The allegations included unethical conduct by former associate head coach John Blake. The NCAA said Blake worked to steer players to late NFL agent Gary Wichard and reported Blake had received more than $31,000 from Wichard, though Blake's attorneys had previously described the transactions as loans from one friend to another during financial troubles. Davis had said he knew nothing of the loans and that he was "sorry" he trusted Blake, a longtime friend who resigned in September.
There were also numerous issues connected to tutor Jennifer Wiley, who had tutored Davis' teen son, and improper assistance given to players on school work -- including some after she had graduated and no longer worked for the school."

I mean dam! Poor Butch, so much going on all around him and he knew nothing of it.

Tell us more excuses...

 

[GonzoCane]

Clearly he would have to answer all questions in his interview(s) with UM people, who would have to be satisfied that Butch could keep his nose clean and that he would work with the compliance people. Personally, I'd like to see him get that chance.

 

[Dwinstitles]

LMAO at had no knowledge of any wrong doing.

28-22 sucks no matter how you slice it. The true test would have been to do it at UNC, you know, coaching and all that, winning the ACC Coastal, winning 10 games, all that good stuff that he is supposed to bring automatically because he did it at UM back in the day.

You frequently suggest Butch knew or even had complicity in something that was installed at UNC many years before Butch ever arrived there.

I've frequently asked for someone - especially you - either provide some specifics - hard evidence, or STFU!

You can't. The NCAA investigated - rendered Butch clean

University of North Carolina investigated - rendered Butch clean - long after he was fired.

North Carolina Attorney General investigated - rendered Butch clean.

So if you have evidence to the contrary - post it or go in your closet and rub one out.

Ohh no no no,not me, the actual UNC player is the one who "suggested" EVERYONE KNEW!! Matter of fact, he said Butch told him, "If y'all came here for an education, you should have gone to Harvard." Powell characterized the remark as deeply discouraging. "When somebody say that, man," he s, "what [are] we supposed to do?"

Players cheating like a mo fo to get in and stay eligible, yet couldn't win the Coastal. Isn't the HC SUPPOSED to know what the **** is going on with his team? What good is he if he can't control his players or staff. And you want to bring that lack of control here, after another coach didnt have control of his staff. GTFOH!

28-22 while cheating. Atleast the other schools that cheat have something to show for it, something for the NCAA to take away.

Get off the ninjas nuts! Coooddaam!

Coaches that cheat win and can croon so das a plus for my ***, *** dat Harvard ****.

 

[Dwinstitles]

If u don't cheat today ur not winning ****.

 

[niner]

LMAO at had no knowledge of any wrong doing.

28-22 sucks no matter how you slice it. The true test would have been to do it at UNC, you know, coaching and all that, winning the ACC Coastal, winning 10 games, all that good stuff that he is supposed to bring automatically because he did it at UM back in the day.

You frequently suggest Butch knew or even had complicity in something that was installed at UNC many years before Butch ever arrived there.

I've frequently asked for someone - especially you - either provide some specifics - hard evidence, or STFU!

You can't. The NCAA investigated - rendered Butch clean

University of North Carolina investigated - rendered Butch clean - long after he was fired.

North Carolina Attorney General investigated - rendered Butch clean.

So if you have evidence to the contrary - post it or go in your closet and rub one out.

Ohh no no no,not me, the actual UNC player is the one who "suggested" EVERYONE KNEW!! Matter of fact, he said Butch told him, "If y'all came here for an education, you should have gone to Harvard." Powell characterized the remark as deeply discouraging. "When somebody say that, man," he s, "what [are] we supposed to do?"

Players cheating like a mo fo to get in and stay eligible, yet couldn't win the Coastal. Isn't the HC SUPPOSED to know what the **** is going on with his team? What good is he if he can't control his players or staff. And you want to bring that lack of control here, after another coach didnt have control of his staff. GTFOH!

28-22 while cheating. Atleast the other schools that cheat have something to show for it, something for the NCAA to take away.

Get off the ninjas nuts! Coooddaam!

Coaches that cheat win and can croon so das a plus for my ***, *** dat Harvard ****.

That is the case normally, except for Butch and Randy. Those teams "cheat" and go 28-22.

 

[Canes5]

I want Butch as bad as anyone but it ain't happening, sorry Shiano probably before Butch.

 

[MIATL]

Agree.

Anybody remember the crew from Auburn meeting with Bobby Petrino to get him to replace Tommy Tubberville about a decade ago?

It was a group of boosters, led by members of the BOT.

The BOT make the decisions ... Presidents and ADs execute or administer them.

Butch really divides the UM fans with most on his side and a few pedantic holdouts dead set against him. Things are very different now than 15 yrs ago. The BOT has no hire and fire capability other than the president.The BOT and Shalala have failed the football team. Change is needed.The old farts against Butch have no power. Blake will be given that authority. He likes Butch .Butch will come cheap and bring a great staff. Its possible.

If you truly believe the BOT has no hiring and firing capability you are either naive or misinformed. Their usually the ones paying the bills and they don't just blindly sign the checks without having input. But don't let me stop you from your narrative.

 

[UMFarArcher]

Then you have:

"The allegations included unethical conduct by former associate head coach John Blake. The NCAA said Blake worked to steer players to late NFL agent Gary Wichard and reported Blake had received more than $31,000 from Wichard, though Blake's attorneys had previously described the transactions as loans from one friend to another during financial troubles. Davis had said he knew nothing of the loans and that he was "sorry" he trusted Blake, a longtime friend who resigned in September.
There were also numerous issues connected to tutor Jennifer Wiley, who had tutored Davis' teen son, and improper assistance given to players on school work -- including some after she had graduated and no longer worked for the school."

I mean dam! Poor Butch, so much going on all around him and he knew nothing of it.

Tell us more excuses...

Oh. My mistake. I didn't realize Butch was hired as the academic advisor for the entire athletic department.

I thought he was hired as the football coach.

Nor did I realize that Butch designed and designated the University curriculum at UNC for years prior to actually coming to UNC.

I thought he was hired as the football coach.

Nor did I realize that a vengeance-minded UNC investigation failed to make one, single, connection to Butch Davis.

Nor did I realize that the NCAA - likewise bent on digging out the facts - failed to make one, single, connection to Butch Davis, and stated Butch had nothing to do with any of the wrongdoings - which were in place long before Butch ever got there.

Nor did I realize that the North Carolina Attorney General - likewise using many investigatory assets - with everyone under oath - failed to make one, single connection to Butch, nor find any evidence that Butch Davis knew or was aware, or ignored all the wrongdoings - again - long before Butch Davis ever arrived at UNC.

But YOU - you're smarter than all those folks!

YOU know things they don't!

Why don't you share all this earth shattering factual data with UNC, the NCAA, and the North Carolina Attorney General - and tell them where they went wrong.

They'd do the same as me.

Laugh at your unknowing, ignorant ***.

 

[niner]

Good lord!! Excuse after excuse after excuse.

First it was show me, then it wasn't good enough, now it's not his job to monitor his players? Oooooookkkaayy!! Probably another reason why he would never get hired here again.

You right, EVERYONE knew but poor ol Butch. Good thing they had nothing on him, else he would have been fired.

 

[Dwinstitles]

If ya think butch ain't cheat wit us u wylin, if u think da top five college football coaches don't cheat again u wylin. Give me a cheater who's gonna win

I'm about winning and locking down sfla, all dat other nerd U **** is what some fans want. I'm here for the football team Nikka nuttin else.

Butch Davis or death to da U cuz they gonna hire a fkin bozo again.

 

[Bigtip]

there is ZERO chance that Butch would fail (relative to what we've seen the last 10+ years). he may not win a NC in 3-4 years but he would without a doubt turn this program from a joke into respectable again with 10 win type seasons and actually beating FSU here and there and pumping out NFLers.