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MEGA New Miami Adidas Ultraboost🔥 - The Shoe and Nike/Adidas Thread.

Rellyrell said:
OK, so @Hufftwoseven asked my thoughts. Well, we’re in a weird situation.

Let me preface this by saying that I fully expect us to re-up w Adidas. A while ago I said based upon what I was informed, it made me feel very uneasy & stated I felt it was 75% Adidas / 25% Nike. I will now say 85% Adidas / 15% Nike just b/c I know who’s involved.

Now, here’s y I say this is a weird situation:
•Back in 2015, we signed a “monumental deal” w/ Adidas making us the “Flagship of Adidas” in The ACC.
•2 yrs later (this is important), UL’s deal trumped ours
•2 yrs later, KU’s deal trumped ours
•3 yrs later, UW’s deal trumped ours

But here’s the kicker, Texas A&M decided not to do a long term deal w Adidas; they took a 5 yr deal that expires the same exact day as us.

Here’s what’s interesting:
1. Adidas spent a ****, & I mean a **** ton of $$ to both PSU & UTenn.
2. UL, TAMU, & Miami all r expiring around the same time.
3. Allegedly, Adidas wants in on Utah now, whose contract ALSO expires at the same time as us & TAMU.

As I said yrs ago, signing the 12 yr deal was going to bite us in the *** due to being outdated & now….coming off our best season since 2002, here we r having to compete w TAMU, Adidas potential overpay for Utah, & UL.

So it’s going to be interesting.

Lastly, as I check Miami x Adidas branded merchandise via Adidas: 23
Miami x Adidas via Fanatics: 106

FSU via Nike: 97
FSU x Nike via Fanatics: 335

UF x Nike/JB via Nike: 131
UF x Nike/JB via Fanatics: 292

Then there’s this



There’s also this little habit of Adidas:



At the end of the day, what’s going to happen is going to happen, & it’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out.
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I have zero knowledge about anything here. Buttttttt, if someone was trying to finesse amyone, it was definitely Giannis finessing shoe deals and nba contracts for his terrible brother.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Finally...years later...

...Calidip**** finally acknowledges the existence and importance of a thing called "royalties".

And, no, you don't need to "do the math". Those of us who know the industry can tell you right off the bat, 15% is an incredibly generous royalty in this industry.

Again, Miami could have had a 15% royalty with Nike if we had just stayed. But Beta Blake engineered the exit by shafting his players on uniforms and equipment and then blaming Nike.

As I've said from the beginning of this thread (and others): BET ON YOURSELF. Then, when your idiot conference changes the rules to "success payouts", make a run to the CFP Final. Think of the money we would have made last year selling Nike merch during a CFP run and an NCAA Tournament run.

Finally, we no longer have to listen to Calidip**** telling us how Miami should have taken the "guaranteed annual lump-sum payout"...
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I'm Currently just wondering if you are actually so **** dumb you think I've been arguing otherwise lmao.

I mean I literally just searched my name + royalties and this is one of the many posts you will see.... gotta say, it holds up lmao
Like it’s hilarious you don’t know how dumb that sounds that you can’t do simple math. Total = Initial payment + Xequipment + Yroyalties * sales. If our expected sales (based on inside info or historical sales rankings) under Nike were enough to make the total money received more, then we would have received more money.
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TheOriginalCane said:
Stop lying.

Nobody has "insulted" you. I have mocked your terrible arguments because you refuse to acknowledge the truth of what others have presented and you continue to repeat the false claims that Beta Blake made 8 years ago. Plus you continue to lie by claiming that @Rellyrell and I said things that we never actually said.

I'm sorry that I find so much humor in the style in which you tell your lies. Such as your newfound religion with "but the adidas contract is too long". Suuuuure. For seven years you had NO PROBLEM with the length of the adidas contract, and then as...
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TheOriginalCane said:
What's next, are you going to declare bankruptcy?
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Nah I just bought some $SPCX
So im just chillin for now
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skyman said:
full list of nil high school guys

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This is my other issue w Adidas. They go after guys committed to Nike schools which means these NILs don’t mean **** for their branding until these platers get to the NFL, at which a good majority of these players go on to other brands after 2-3 yrs. Y not focus on the elite athletes going to ur branded schools, increasing their chances of recruiting them?

I will never get or agree w this strategy by them.
 
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If Adidas contributed to ARs injuries, do you think if we switched back to Nike his spine/neck condition would be fixed? Tie that in with the NCAA being unable to prevent players from participating, we could bolster the WR room even further in 27.
 
Brooklyndee said:
I don't usually find much to agree with on here. But in house the common sentiment was Nike was just ****ting on us by that point. That doesn't mean now or ever that I been a fan of Adidas. It's me, we're back with Nike along time ago. Even with them considering us and afterthought for a minute there.
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Are those people still "in house"?

It's hard to demand respect when you don't respect yourself.
 
caneingville said:
What Ahmmon said on the pod today about Adidas footwear was interesting. He said he thinks Adidas cleats are the reason he started getting hamstring injuries, and he is interested in seeing Nike school v. Adidas school injury reports. It's a great listen.
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@Rellyrell , 3 stripe’s defective too?
 
caneingville said:
What Ahmmon said on the pod today about Adidas footwear was interesting. He said he thinks Adidas cleats are the reason he started getting hamstring injuries, and he is interested in seeing Nike school v. Adidas school injury reports. It's a great listen.
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Sorry for the long, analytical response, but:

Ppl who know me or who r in my DM know I’m fair & equitable. I call out Nike on b.s & I’ve praise Adidas on certain things; however, when I’m extremely dogmatic like a pit bull that’s latched on to a bone, that’s for a good reason & those reasons typically come to fruition later.

I’ve been successful in business b/c I pay attention to even some of the most minute details b/c I believe small details add & create the bigger picture. So y have I been dogmatically against Adidas?

1. Trust. I’ll go back to 2015 once again; when we signed the “flagship” contract, it specifically outlined that we would be the flagship of the State of Florida & ACC, meaning no team’s Adidas contract either in FL or ACC would supersede ours. Exactly 2 yrs later, UL contract superseded ours & an outside entity had to let Blake James know Adidas was in violation of what we signed (it was reported here on CIS regarding the turmoil under Blake’s tenure).

2. Apparel. Forget for a moment that our apparel’s quality & quantity is limited w Adidas, but to complicate matters more, we had no royalties. As I’ve tirelessly had to explain, apparel contracts r not simply $ for $; it’s broken into:
•Cash
•Equipment
•Off-field gear for players

Majority is tied into equipment & off field gear which means a school really earns its $$ via:
•Cash Allotment from contracts
•% of sales from branded apparel
•incentives/bonus for qualifying for certain feats

Hence y TV contracts & conference affiliation is so important b/c that’s 100% revenue. With the limited quantity of apparel available for retail + 0% of royalties, that’s earned $$ we lost on. I’m sure the next contract will include royalties, however, as I’ve taken a gander at both UTenn & PSU’s contracts which will include this language.

3. Injuries. OK, this one is tricky b/c to be frank, there’s not a single company, brand that doesn’t have injuries associated w it. There’s been a ton of ACL & achilles injuries wearing Nike cleats. With that said, there’s a real concern w Adidas American Footwear. I wanted my boy to grant me access to a certain report, but unfortunately it’s industry info only; but, between The Chinese Brands like Anta/Li Ning, Puma, & Adidas, they r heads & shoulders above brands like Nike, Reebok, or even New Balance when it pertains to lower injuries. (Pause)

While Adidas is great from their speed cleats, futbol boots, & even race spikes, for w/e reason their technology often contradicts sharp, hard cut movements at the football and even basketball levels.

Here are all the lower extremity injuries off the top of my head since we’ve switched to Adidas:
•Fletcher (Foot)
•Messidor (Foot)
•Edwards (Foot)
•Kirby (ACL)
•Owens (ACL)
•Cager (ACL)
•Choc (ACL)
•Gordinier (ACL)
•Richards (Hamstring/MCL)
•Walton (Ankle)
•Donaldson (Leg/Ankle)
•Herndon (ACL)
•Perry (ACL)
•Rousseau (Ankle)
•Irvin II (MCL)
•Jaquon (Hamstring)
•Polendy (MCL)
•Steed (ACL)
•Chaney Jr (ACL)
•Keontra Smith (Leg)
•Gaynor (Knee)
•Zion (Knee)
•Rivers (lower leg)
•Citizen (ACL)
•Damari Brown (foot)
•Richards (leg)
•Upshaw (Foot)
•Lofton (Leg)

I know I’m missing more, but more concerning are a lot of these were non contact, & non game injuries, as well. This is not uncommon, & a certain celebrity b4 he was paid hush up $$, was going to do an injury doc w Sebastian Telfair to expose Adidas’ long history of American Athletes not being the same after wearing their shoes over a period of time. Again, we for sure had some injuries pre-Adidas like Cooper, Gore, Reddick, Fortson, but on a per capita level, it’s not close.

4. Partnership. Adidas has a current partnership with TT via Pat Mahomes. They’ve deepened their presence & relationship w/ ASU via James Harden. They were able to overbid for UTenn due to Candace Parker being on their board. They have a UL alum heading their marketing dept. KU is their crown jewel for basketball. Adidas has turned up the heat & reinvigorated their relationship w IU due to Fernandez.

Adidas doesn’t have the bandwidth to promote multiple brands or players at one time (e.g. see Adidas put all their eggs in the Ant Edwards’ basket while guys like Dame, Spida, Mobley get pushed to the back). They also have a propensity to pay special attention to their new toys (e.g see the red carpet treatment given to us in 2015 vs. the purple carpet treatment given to UW).

I recall UW fans flexing how well they were treated, & how they felt so prioritized; & wouldn’t u know since 2023,



Now, to be fair, there’s a lot of butt hurt UW fans that r satisfied w Adidas, not b/c of Adidas, but b/c they hate Oregon. Lmao. The point is, every school that had the Nike experience realize after about 4-5 yrs after the buzz dies, so does the merch & the quality of the merch. I saw one UW fan try to justify this as saying Adidas is still a start up, football brand compared to Nike. Lol.

Listen, ppl will say “whoever pays” we should go w, & that’s a very short sighted view. It’s short sighted b/c u have to know how that contract works. $119m over 10 yrs looks & sounds good, but how is that $11.9m broken up? Are there bonuses/incentives? What’s the % split on branded products? Etc etc.
 
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TRick72 said:
Any chance we can switch to Hoka’s or Brook’s? Asking for an Old fashion forward friend
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