My biggest questions going into Fall Camp scrimmage #1 (Q1 UPDATE)

Head hunted the wrong one bro
Nah. It was just the complete opposite of what I preach. I'm here non-stop advocating for tackling and have @skyman @ing me every time someone gets injured in practice, and the poster read my comment as me advocating for soft practices. **** no. Hit. Just consider we don't have any depth.
 
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What's funny (sad?) if we weren't even good on offense in 2021, and yet I'm with you 100%. If we can just be to 2021 levels on offense, we should be a decent team with the schedule and defense.

But we were 38th in the country in scoring offense in 2021, which obviously isn't bad. And scoring points is the name of the game, of course. But we weren't even especially good in any other metrics, and yet last year was so genuinely awful, I'd take 2021's offense this year in a heartbeat.

I'll bet we're not going to pair it with the 92nd ranked scoring defense in the country like we did in 2021.
I agree. 38th in points is not “impossible” to match. And our run offense that year was terrible so the points were generated either directly or indirectly almost solely from passing.
I still feel like we are all suffering from 2022 PTSD and think we are much worse than we actually are.
 
Just being physical and tackling well wins the MSU and unc games last year. My biggest questions are: who steps up at WR, how improved will the DL be, and wtf we gonna do at LB? I'm trusting Gattis and TVD with an improved OL and a hella group of RB's to get the offensive job done. Steele and Charlie have their work cut out for them and will have a big impact on the season imo. I'm really excited for this year.

These were my questions last year. Mistake trusting Gattis and TVD for sure... that's my bad. For the most part, same questions again this year. Who steps up at WR, how improved will the DL be. I think we know what's gonna happen at LB. Will our tackling finally improve? Last year was such a ******* let down, that **** better have been rock ******* bottom.
 
I mainly just need one percentage to change from .417 to .834 and I'll be better than good.

@LuCane not much on the defense?
Didn't think it was the thread to share it in because I believe so much of this season hinges on the offense's bounce back, but I have similar goals for the defense:

- From 66th in Points allowed (28.0 in '22) to about 40th (estimated at around 24PPG allowed)

- From 80th in Yards per play allowed (5.6) to about 35th (estimated at around 5.0YPP allowed)

- From 100th (!) in 3rd down conversion % stops (42.6%) to about 35th (estimated at around 35%).

As you can probably deduce, I don't have unreasonable expectations for the team. Maybe they outperform the goals. Great. But, just this level of competence on both sides should net a real turnaround in the thing that matters most: wins.
 
Didn't think it was the thread to share it in because I believe so much of this season hinges on the offense's bounce back, but I have similar goals for the defense:

- From 66th in Points allowed (28.0 in '22) to about 40th (estimated at around 24PPG allowed)

- From 80th in Yards per play allowed (5.6) to about 35th (estimated at around 5.0YPP allowed)

- From 100th (!) in 3rd down conversion % stops (42.6%) to about 35th (estimated at around 35%).

As you can probably deduce, I don't have unreasonable expectations for the team. Maybe they outperform the goals. Great. But, just this level of competence on both sides should net a real turnaround in the thing that matters most: wins.
Fair enough. The offense was bad last year but so was the defense.. both atrocious.
 
I’m not going to chime in too much here because I’ve been watching TVD highlights from 2021 today

The kid has so much ******* talent

We’ve got a long ways to go in a lot of ways, but when you’ve got a kid with talent like that’s it’s hard to wrap your head around last season

Here’s to hoping we see glimpses of that talent again, and Howard Schnellenberger willing, a Heisman dark horse candidate again
 
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I’m not going to chime in too much here because I’ve been watching TVD highlights from 2021 today

The kid has so much ******* talent

We’ve got a long ways to go in a lot of ways, but when you’ve got a kid with talent like that’s it’s hard to wrap your head around last season

Here’s to hoping we see glimpses of that talent again, and Howard Schnellenberger willing, a Heisman dark horse candidate again

It happens. A completely putrid scheme, your QB coach clashing with your OC, and probably most importantly, everyone telling you how great you are for 8 months....and things like this happen.

There's a reason a thing called a "sophomore slump" is a thing. It's happened a ton. A kid has success as a first-time player, and then defenses get some film on him, tendencies are picked up on, coordinators game plan for said player, and said player puffs his chest out and chip on his shoulder in, and you get a dud of a year.

I think the kid was really humbled last season. He was down physically and mentally. Now, with a new OC and QB coach, you get a totally fresh start, and you're no longer the talk of the town. You can just put your head down and get to work. I think he has some serious arm talent as well, and he's way too good to play how he played last year. With a QB friendly scheme and what should be a massively improved OL, I expect a solid bounce back for TVD. I'll pump the brakes and say he's not going to do what he did the last 6 games in 2021 for the entire season, but I think he can be one of the 3-4 best QBs in the conference. If he's truly that, we're going to have a pretty good year.
 
Nah. It was just the complete opposite of what I preach. I'm here non-stop advocating for tackling and have @skyman @ing me every time someone gets injured in practice, and the poster read my comment as me advocating for soft practices. **** no. Hit. Just consider we don't have any depth.
Mannnnnnn, Im not even on that anymore, Cristobal already said Chris Johnson is banged up.. I just cant..

Angry Denzel Washington GIF
 
It happens. A completely putrid scheme, your QB coach clashing with your OC, and probably most importantly, everyone telling you how great you are for 8 months....and things like this happen.

There's a reason a thing called a "sophomore slump" is a thing. It's happened a ton. A kid has success as a first-time player, and then defenses get some film on him, tendencies are picked up on, coordinators game plan for said player, and said player puffs his chest out and chip on his shoulder in, and you get a dud of a year.

I think the kid was really humbled last season. He was down physically and mentally. Now, with a new OC and QB coach, you get a totally fresh start, and you're no longer the talk of the town. You can just put your head down and get to work. I think he has some serious arm talent as well, and he's way too good to play how he played last year. With a QB friendly scheme and what should be a massively improved OL, I expect a solid bounce back for TVD. I'll pump the brakes and say he's not going to do what he did the last 6 games in 2021 for the entire season, but I think he can be one of the 3-4 best QBs in the conference. If he's truly that, we're going to have a pretty good year.
I am with you

I got downvoted a lot last winter and spring when I tried to pump the brakes on the TVD Heisman hysteria

I’m like Lashlee is gone, sophomore slumps are a real thing (we did the same thing with Jacory) Rambo is gone (TVD highlights may as well have been Rambo highlights)…these were all real concerns of mine

Admittedly not in a million years did I think it would go that poorly but I think it was a perfect storm of bad luck and just not getting it done

That said he’s crazy talented and I personally think he’s a really tough kid. He has always shown a lot of heart on the field, particularly that game against FSU when he first got here showed me the type of kid he can be

So now you’ve got Dawson, a MUCH improved OL, some playmakers emerging at WR…I don’t think it’s wishful thinking to expect a pretty big turnaround

But I also understand people just not wanting to get ahead of themselves
 
I’m not going to chime in too much here because I’ve been watching TVD highlights from 2021 today

The kid has so much ******* talent

We’ve got a long ways to go in a lot of ways, but when you’ve got a kid with talent like that’s it’s hard to wrap your head around last season

Here’s to hoping we see glimpses of that talent again, and Howard Schnellenberger willing, a Heisman dark horse candidate again
Yea I did that a couple weeks back and came on here and was like I dont see why the offense cant be productive.. We have a supposed "NFL" qb, rebuilt OL with talent, like 10 WR where you would think 3 should be able to step up, same with RB and TE.. Tons of options with talent.. Offense shouldnt be THIS hard..
 
That's a good question to speculate on. Without taking any **** off of Gattis' head, a good 50% at least could be contributed to injuries.
I dug this up on our injury situation last year : https://247sports.com/college/miami...n-pads-with-open-scrimmage-nearing-214022419/

To summarize:
-We lost TVD with nowhere near a capable backup at QB
-Chaney and Citizen went down at RB and we had to go get Lucious Stanley from Division II
-Knighton was a turnover machine
-TE-Arroyo was not available after game 4
-WR Restrepo missed most of the year //Jacolby George was hurt at the TAM game and missed time
-OL- By the end of the year there was hardly anyone left.

Going injury free is tough to do but having to play mostly your second-team O spells doom for most teams.

I would argue that without those injuries last year- we win 8+ games and are least respectable.
 
@LuCane I appreciate the surge of interesting thread topics the last few days. Fun to read the discussion and certainly has me excited for the season.

I would love to see improvement in those soul-crushing situations we've seen so much of the last few years: 1) converting on 3rd & short and 2) efficiency in the red zone, especially off defensive turnovers that create favorable field position. Feels like weve underperformed in those areas for years. What's worse is that it feels like teams we play against do it to us with ease, which is even more demoralizing.

In 2017, our offense wasn't particularly explosive, but when the defense got a turnover we capitalized. It's such a momentum shift to give up 7 on a turnover, then turn around and go 3 & out on the next series after kickoff. We were on the receiving end of that plenty last year.
 
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2nd annual thread like this. Here was last year's version (epic disasters on questions 1 and 2): https://www.canesinsight.com/threads/my-biggest-questions-going-into-fall-camp.178845/

For 2023, I have related, but slightly different questions:

Here’s what I’ll look for during Fall camp (and the early parts of the season):

1. Will Coach Cristobal truly hand over the reigns to Coach Dawson's presumed style?
Of course, the sensical answer is "well, he brought him in, so obviously." However, we've consistently heard quotes from both Coach Cristobal and Coach Mirabal about how Dawson "has really evolved" and how much of the "run game diversity" he's included in the general spread principles. To me, that naturally indicates they want *their* brand and imprint on the offense.

Yes, I realize that goes hand in hand with the overall culture they aim to achieve. But, you know what else helps culture? Winning. You know what helps winning? Putting your offensive players in space and having your QB in a relatively comfortable position to succeed. I strongly believe in the grind and mental toughness. Those ends are often achieved artfully; not always with a hammer. I've already acknowledged the need for massive roster turnover. Coach Cristobal was given credit for that. If Coach Cristobal's strengths lie somewhere other than Xs and Os, specifically, then make your hire and let him cook. The significant and quick change from Gattis (an objective failure here in multiple ways) to Dawson is a positive move. Let's see where it goes.

2. How will we hold up physically? (same question as last year)
We went from what many consistently told me was "almost no hitting and tackling to the ground" under Manny to hyper-physical practices last season. We didn't have depth, and when injuries hit in practice and otherwise, we looked like a shell of a roster. Let me be clear: I think the best way to get good at tackling at the college level is to tackle. I strongly believe there needs to be some of it.

I also realize we need to be somewhere reasonable and manage our depth. Specifically, we have certain position groups - like DT and parts of the OL - that are top heavy. While injuries are inevitable, we cannot afford to lose too many of our top guys and expect to do much of anything. We just don't [yet?] have that kind of depth.

3. Will TVD return to his old flashes and which offensive skill position player(s) surprise(s)?
As skeptical as I was about the questionable fit of Gattis' style, I'm cautiously optimistic about a regression to at least a reasonable mean with this year's offense. The answer to this question is linked to question 1 above. It is, however, more specific to how we set up individual players for success. And, I've got specific hopes/goals for the offense:

(a) from 117th in TDs/game (1.9!) to something competent like 40th (which is estimated at 3.6 TDs/game)

(b) from 104th in Yards Per Play (4.8) to something more like 40th (which is estimated around 6 yards per play)

(c) from 77th in 3rd down conversion % (37.7%) to something more like 40th (which is estimated at 41%)

(d) from 117th in Points Per Play (.267!) to something halfway reasonable like 50th (which is estimated at .4)

(e) from 110th in RZ % (76.3%!) to something competent like 50th (which is estimated at 85%)

(f) from 114th in Points per game (19.4, left the critical one for last) to something competent like 44th (which is estimated at 30PPG)

Is it possible to be pleasantly surprised on some of the above if TVD and his skill players are played to their strengths? Sure. But, competence goes a long way. We score 30 PPG and have a reasonable uptick in our defense's ability to get off the field (opponent's 3rd down conversion %) and stop big plays (opponent's yards per play), and most of the rest tends to work itself out.

Do we have WR who can create space on their own or will Dawson have to be magic to get our guys open. The last handful of years we didn’t have WR who could win one v one. It’s embarrassing how bad that room as been for years. I still don’t see the high level talent there. Hints why Ray Ray is all the buzz and is a freshmen.

Dawson is going to have to use RB and TE in the passing game. I think we finally have some size and skill on the o-line to run the ball better. Cohen, Lee and Cooper should move ppl. If we can finally establish a consistent running game it makes the WR & TVD that much more dangerous.
 
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I dug this up on our injury situation last year : https://247sports.com/college/miami...n-pads-with-open-scrimmage-nearing-214022419/

To summarize:
-We lost TVD with nowhere near a capable backup at QB
-Chaney and Citizen went down at RB and we had to go get Lucious Stanley from Division II
-Knighton was a turnover machine
-TE-Arroyo was not available after game 4
-WR Restrepo missed most of the year //Jacolby George was hurt at the TAM game and missed time
-OL- By the end of the year there was hardly anyone left.

Going injury free is tough to do but having to play mostly your second-team O spells doom for most teams.

I would argue that without those injuries last year- we win 8+ games and are least respectable.
Yeah, it was bad. It was almost comical at one point the amount of starters and 2nd stringers that were out with injuries
 
@LuCane - thank you sir. A painful reminder as for how atrocious the offense was last year and team overall. The worst I’ve seen in 30 plus years following my Canes and I put at a minimum 90% of the inability to execute and lackluster path to success on the HC. He’s the cook in the kitchen - buys the groceries, prepares the feast. He literally failed in every aspect. Seems that he went to a Krogers close out special compared to a Whole Foods grand opening and his cookout ran out propane and charcoal.

What a joke in coaching hires, player development, game-day adjustments. In my eyes, 2023 is moving season for Mario Cristobal, or Wario Cristobum as some would call him. Make major advancement or you’re neutered, handcuffed going forward. You see it somewhat already in recruiting. Another mediocre season and he’s over baked.

Here’s hoping to at least 9 wins in the regular season which is my expectation. Any less and it’s failure. Look at recruiting today and all the moaning. Next year will be worse…
 
1. Yes, 3. Yes. As long as Dawson does okay in Games 1 and 2, Mario will give him the bit and let him go. And TVD has some self-confidence issues when he gets a streak of bad throws/drops, so I could see him having a down quarter or half. But he is just too talented to fail and he has a dramatically improved supporting cast.

I am somewhat concerned about 2, how we hold up physically. But it helps that our guys are no longer undersized and we're deeper than we've been in 2 decades in many/most positions. I think we'll be okay there overall.

My primary concerns are positional -- Backup QB, LT, WR1, OLB, safety other than Kam, second team CBs. As long as those guys don't lose games for us, we're going to have a strong season.
 
The answer to question #1 will determine the type of season we have. While I think it's obvious that the OL should be better by leaps and bounds and we have some very talented RBs I agree with your assessment and I need to see Dawson run his offense. Everyone loves a great running game but we need to see space and the type of passing concepts that TVD thrives in. Without that this offense goes nowhere. To be honest I don't know if I trust Mario to just let Dawson cook. We will see.

Regarding question 2 we should be much better off in that department with the increased size speed and overall depth. We still don't have ideal depth all around but we are in a much better position than last year.
 
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