My biggest questions going into Fall Camp scrimmage #1 (Q1 UPDATE)

no ive not subscribed to follow anyone's posts so i have no idea what you personally posted on here or what your view is on tackling other than what i just read.
Glad to now read you're an advocate for tackling cause they way i read it or misread it, you were only okay with "some tackling" during football practices out of fear of injuries. i dont personally subscribe to that prospective and believe it sends the wrong message to the young players. When Miami was at the apex of college football they always had that next man up approach and that is what Mario is trying to reinstall back into this program and we arent going to get that back by playing flag football on greentree and worrying about injuries. in my experience when you worry about injuries thats when they occur
When Miami was at the apex they had the players to replace whoever got hurt in practice. The whole point here is that we don’t have that right now, so maybe a little caution is needed. So while I agree that being tough all the time is the goal, we’ll never get anywhere if half our team is constantly hurt.

I guess it’s a chicken and egg thing, but we saw last year what happened when we did it your way. Maybe we should try a different approach.
 
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I was randomly thinking about how our run defense will be, i wanna see how our run fits are this year. I thought it was a solid improvement from manny to steele, I wonder whats guidry’s philosophy there. The marshall stuff looks more similar to manny than steele to me
 
Not sure if it’s been mentioned but a few things I’d love to see/not see.

Slow starts every single game. Down 7-0 after one drove or 3 and outs for what feels like the first 4-5 drives.

Would love to see some life right out of the gate. Just absolutely blitz Temple/Miami of Ohio from both sides of the ball. Put it away in the 3rd and get all the young guys meaningful snaps so they get a lot of experience for the speed of the game moving forward and not just coming in to run out the last 2 minutes
 
I was randomly thinking about how our run defense will be, i wanna see how our run fits are this year. I thought it was a solid improvement from manny to steele, I wonder whats guidry’s philosophy there. The marshall stuff looks more similar to manny than steele to me
The run defense was actually worse in 2022 than it was in 2021. They were worse in a lot of important areas, Including yards per rush and yards per play. They were slightly better in scoring defense and total defense but that was mostly due to A) The schedule had a bunch of really terrible offenses and B) the pace got slowed down to a crawl so they had fewer plays per game to defend.
 
my #1 thing is who is Dawson as a play caller. Dana’s offenses vs southern miss which version is the dominant one?
Very curious to see how our 12 sets look (not sure if we see it scrimmage 1)
Can we finally not have 3-4 blown coverage plays per game? Improving athletes at DB should allow us to be more diverse in our calls upfront
 
today should be fun. A lot of things to look out for.

OL vs DL: Cohen and Cooper didn't play in the spring game. Neither did LT, Brandon Deen, or JHH. Does Collins get a shot at DE or DT?

Running game: how the defense will prepare to stop it. Are Ajay Allen & Fletcher going to make moves to take more snaps? Or will it be Chaney?

Devonte Brown covered Colbie nicely on an end zone shot in the spring game but can he hang with someone like Tyler Harrell?

How does Malik Bryant handle playing Mike?
 
I feel like having an open scrimmage is one of two things:

Mario being confident this team is solid

Or Mario apologizing to us insane fans for recruiting sucking.

Maybe both
 
The run defense was actually worse in 2022 than it was in 2021. They were worse in a lot of important areas, Including yards per rush and yards per play. They were slightly better in scoring defense and total defense but that was mostly due to A) The schedule had a bunch of really terrible offenses and B) the pace got slowed down to a crawl so they had fewer plays per game to defend.
Im just talking from an eye test perspective, we actually looked like we had a plan to stop the run. The defensive numbers imo are kinda messed up because of how bad the offense was imo but the run fits looked better than what manny was trying
 
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My take on your questions.....

1. Will Coach Cristobal truly hand over the reigns to Coach Dawson's presumed style?...

I believe yes.... He did let Gattis do his thing last year so there's no reason to believe he won't let Dawson... Yes Gattis was a disaster, we know this... Point is I don't see him putting handcuffs on Dawson...
I believe Mario is smart enough to understand this... Unlike Manny who brought in T-Rob and Shoop, Everyone thought the D was gonna be saved , and literally locked both of them in a closet... That was terrible....

2. How will we hold up physically? (same question as last year)

Due to the influx of new talent that's hard to say.... I want to believe that changing the caliber of athlete we've had will make a difference in how the athlete approaches their workouts and such ( Personal care and diet in general)... Mario trusts in Feld and the people that work in S&C to right the ship... I think we should see a big difference this year compared to last ...


3. Will TVD return to his old flashes and which offensive skill position player(s) surprise(s)?

As long as his shoulder is 100% I don't see why not.... Dawson's offense should be a breath of fresh air for TVD.... Mario has done a good job thus far of re-inventing the WR room as well as the RB room so finding targets shouldn't be a issue..... Now there's always the issue of the O-line holding up...
Yes that's been re-invented as well but we need to see the cohesiveness play out on the field but I'm confident we're heading in the right direction there...
As far as skill positions.... I think Ray-Ray will be the biggest surprise if we can even call him that (I say that meaning everyone pretty much knows he's getting a ton of burn this season)... I expect a big year from him...
I'll go with Chaney as long as he stays healthy.... If he can really establish himself as the #1 RB it will help open things up for other players to excel as well...

I'll throw in one of the Fr Tight ends as well ... that's a position that could see heavy rotation giving someone a chance to pop.... Lastly I'll give James Williams a nod... I've been tough on him but I'm willing to believe he'll come around and put it together... It's money year time for him...



Edit - Have no idea why the font switched from normal to bold.... I didn't hit anything..... Didn't wanna mess with it and erase everything... lol
 
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My take on your questions.....

1. Will Coach Cristobal truly hand over the reigns to Coach Dawson's presumed style?...

I believe yes.... He did let Gattis do his thing last year so there's no reason to believe he won't let Dawson... Yes Gattis was a disaster, we know this... Point is I don't see him putting handcuffs on Dawson...
I believe Mario is smart enough to understand this... Unlike Manny who brought in T-Rob and Shoop, Everyone thought the D was gonna be saved , and literally locked both of them in a closet... That was terrible....

2. How will we hold up physically? (same question as last year)

Due to the influx of new talent that's hard to say.... I want to believe that changing the caliber of athlete we've had will make a difference in how the athlete approaches their workouts and such ( Personal care and diet in general)... Mario trusts in Feld and the people that work in S&C to right the ship... I think we should see a big difference this year compared to last ...

3. Will TVD return to his old flashes and which offensive skill position player(s) surprise(s)?

As long as his shoulder is 100% I don't see why not.... Dawson's offense should be a breath of fresh air for TVD.... Mario has done a good job thus far of re-inventing the WR room as well as the RB room so finding targets shouldn't be a issue..... Now there's always the issue of the O-line holding up...
Yes that's been re-invented as well but we need to see the cohesiveness play out on the field but I'm confident we're heading in the right direction there...
As far as skill positions.... I think Ray-Ray will be the biggest surprise if we can even call him that (I say that meaning everyone pretty much knows he's getting a ton of burn this season)... I expect a big year from him...
I'll go with Chaney as long as he stays healthy.... If he can really establish himself as the #1 RB it will help open things up for other players to excel as well...

I'll throw in one of the Fr Tight ends as well ... that's a position that could see heavy rotation giving someone a chance to pop.... Lastly I'll give James Williams a nod... I've been tough on him but I'm willing to believe he'll come around and put it together... It's money year time for him...



Edit - Have no idea why the font switched from bold to normal.... I didn't hit anything..... Didn't wanna mess with it and erase everything... lol
That's quite the bold take.


OK, I'll see myself out now.
 
Im just talking from an eye test perspective, we actually looked like we had a plan to stop the run. The defensive numbers imo are kinda messed up because of how bad the offense was imo but the run fits looked better than what manny was trying
There's no doubt the offense did the defense no favors but they actually faced fewer plays per game on average in 2022 than they did in 2021. The 2022 opponents only averaged 63.4 plays per game as opposed to 72.1 in 2021. Some of that is due to our offense working at a much slower pace but a lot of it is due to the fact that teams like UVA and Pitt had high scoring, fast paced offenses in 2021 but in 2022 they both switched to a much slower, lower scoring style. Plus our non-conference schedule dropped faster paced teams like Bama, App State and Michigan State in favor of slower teams like Southern Miss, Texas A&M and Middle Tennessee.
 
I was listening to Mac and Cube and Cube who was an O-lineman said the biggest impact of the transfer portal was finding cohesion with the O-line between spring, fall camp and the first game. I think that’s why they’ve taken the approach regarding Zion Nelson. I believe they are thinking we got to get some cohesion with our starting five that will improve the run game and pass pro
 
Do we have WR who can create space on their own or will Dawson have to be magic to get our guys open. The last handful of years we didn’t have WR who could win one v one. It’s embarrassing how bad that room as been for years. I still don’t see the high level talent there. Hints why Ray Ray is all the buzz and is a freshmen.

Dawson is going to have to use RB and TE in the passing game. I think we finally have some size and skill on the o-line to run the ball better. Cohen, Lee and Cooper should move ppl. If we can finally establish a consistent running game it makes the WR & TVD that much more dangerous.
This is my biggest question for this offense. WRs need to step up and win 1v1s and make contested catches.
Colby started to emerge but than TVD was hurt most of the season anyway so we didn't really get to see any results. I say this all the time, coaches aren't magicians, players have to win within the scheme/play design.
 
That's quite the bold take.


OK, I'll see myself out now.
Yea... not sure what happened there... didn't notice it till I was done... Hence the edit at the end....
 
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When Miami was at the apex they had the players to replace whoever got hurt in practice. The whole point here is that we don’t have that right now, so maybe a little caution is needed. So while I agree that being tough all the time is the goal, we’ll never get anywhere if half our team is constantly hurt.

I guess it’s a chicken and egg thing, but we saw last year what happened when we did it your way. Maybe we should try a different approach.


well first off its not "my way" its Mario's way and its a proven recipe as a culture changer and championship builder that he learned as a player under Jimmie and as a student under Butch and Satan.
When Schnellenberger showed up here 1979 and created this monster from nothing, do you think he did that by half assing practices because he was
worried about injuries or because they didnt have enough "Stars" on the roster? **** no! Howard would be arrested now for the torturous practices he implemented....and what about Jimmie when he first showed up to Dallas or Saban's first yr at Bama? or how about Butch Davis in 1997 with half a roster and a bunch of walk ons, do you honestly believe Butch Davis was worried about having tough practices because he didnt have enough stars on the team?? And that is definitely not the message you want sent to your team either because as a player you cant worry about injuries and thats the last thing that should be on your mind when youre out there because thats when players get hurt.
 
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2nd annual thread like this. Here was last year's version (epic disasters on questions 1 and 2): https://www.canesinsight.com/threads/my-biggest-questions-going-into-fall-camp.178845/

For 2023, I have related, but slightly different questions:

Here’s what I’ll look for during Fall camp (and the early parts of the season):

1. Will Coach Cristobal truly hand over the reigns to Coach Dawson's presumed style?
Of course, the sensical answer is "well, he brought him in, so obviously." However, we've consistently heard quotes from both Coach Cristobal and Coach Mirabal about how Dawson "has really evolved" and how much of the "run game diversity" he's included in the general spread principles. To me, that naturally indicates they want *their* brand and imprint on the offense.

Yes, I realize that goes hand in hand with the overall culture they aim to achieve. But, you know what else helps culture? Winning. You know what helps winning? Putting your offensive players in space and having your QB in a relatively comfortable position to succeed. I strongly believe in the grind and mental toughness. Those ends are often achieved artfully; not always with a hammer. I've already acknowledged the need for massive roster turnover. Coach Cristobal was given credit for that. If Coach Cristobal's strengths lie somewhere other than Xs and Os, specifically, then make your hire and let him cook. The significant and quick change from Gattis (an objective failure here in multiple ways) to Dawson is a positive move. Let's see where it goes.

2. How will we hold up physically? (same question as last year)
We went from what many consistently told me was "almost no hitting and tackling to the ground" under Manny to hyper-physical practices last season. We didn't have depth, and when injuries hit in practice and otherwise, we looked like a shell of a roster. Let me be clear: I think the best way to get good at tackling at the college level is to tackle. I strongly believe there needs to be some of it.

I also realize we need to be somewhere reasonable and manage our depth. Specifically, we have certain position groups - like DT and parts of the OL - that are top heavy. While injuries are inevitable, we cannot afford to lose too many of our top guys and expect to do much of anything. We just don't [yet?] have that kind of depth.

3. Will TVD return to his old flashes and which offensive skill position player(s) surprise(s)?
As skeptical as I was about the questionable fit of Gattis' style, I'm cautiously optimistic about a regression to at least a reasonable mean with this year's offense. The answer to this question is linked to question 1 above. It is, however, more specific to how we set up individual players for success. And, I've got specific hopes/goals for the offense:

(a) from 117th in TDs/game (1.9!) to something competent like 40th (which is estimated at 3.6 TDs/game)

(b) from 104th in Yards Per Play (4.8) to something more like 40th (which is estimated around 6 yards per play)

(c) from 77th in 3rd down conversion % (37.7%) to something more like 40th (which is estimated at 41%)

(d) from 117th in Points Per Play (.267!) to something halfway reasonable like 50th (which is estimated at .4)

(e) from 110th in RZ % (76.3%!) to something competent like 50th (which is estimated at 85%)

(f) from 114th in Points per game (19.4, left the critical one for last) to something competent like 44th (which is estimated at 30PPG)

Is it possible to be pleasantly surprised on some of the above if TVD and his skill players are played to their strengths? Sure. But, competence goes a long way. We score 30 PPG and have a reasonable uptick in our defense's ability to get off the field (opponent's 3rd down conversion %) and stop big plays (opponent's yards per play), and most of the rest tends to work itself out.

After the first quarter of our season:

1. Will Dawson be allowed to do his thing?


Dawson's aggressive approach is plain to see. Let's keep it going.

2. Physicality, health, and depth

We've already gotten hit on the DL, but I think we're "relatively" healthy and let's hope it continues.

3. Comparison to TVD's 2021 flashes

TVD is clearly more comfortable, and the presumed regression to TVD's previous flashes is positive.

a) from 117th in TDs/game (1.9!) to something competent like 40th (which is estimated at 3.6 TDs/game)

*We are currently ranked 14th at 4.5 TDs/game.*

(b) from 104th in Yards Per Play (4.8) to something more like 40th (which is estimated around 6 yards per play)

*We are currently ranked 4th at 8 yards/play.*

(c) from 77th in 3rd down conversion % (37.7%) to something more like 40th (which is estimated at 41%)

*We are currently ranked 85th at 37.5% yards/play. I'm sure this is an area they're targeting to work on.*

(d) from 117th in Points Per Play (.267!) to something halfway reasonable like 50th (which is estimated at .4)

*We are currently ranked 5th at .729 points/play.*

(e) from 110th in RZ % (76.3%!) to something competent like 50th (which is estimated at 85%)

*We are currently ranked 1st at 100%. This is skewed because it's still the beginning of the season and we need a larger sample size.*

(f) from 114th in Points per game (19.4, left the critical one for last) to something competent like 44th (which is estimated at 30PPG)

*We are currently ranked 7th at 43 points/game.*
 
After the first quarter of our season:

1. Will Dawson be allowed to do his thing?


Dawson's aggressive approach is plain to see. Let's keep it going.

2. Physicality, health, and depth

We've already gotten hit on the DL, but I think we're "relatively" healthy and let's hope it continues.

3. Comparison to TVD's 2021 flashes

TVD is clearly more comfortable, and the presumed regression to TVD's previous flashes is positive.

a) from 117th in TDs/game (1.9!) to something competent like 40th (which is estimated at 3.6 TDs/game)

*We are currently ranked 14th at 4.5 TDs/game.*

(b) from 104th in Yards Per Play (4.8) to something more like 40th (which is estimated around 6 yards per play)

*We are currently ranked 4th at 8 yards/play.*

(c) from 77th in 3rd down conversion % (37.7%) to something more like 40th (which is estimated at 41%)

*We are currently ranked 85th at 37.5% yards/play. I'm sure this is an area they're targeting to work on.*

(d) from 117th in Points Per Play (.267!) to something halfway reasonable like 50th (which is estimated at .4)

*We are currently ranked 5th at .729 points/play.*

(e) from 110th in RZ % (76.3%!) to something competent like 50th (which is estimated at 85%)

*We are currently ranked 1st at 100%. This is skewed because it's still the beginning of the season and we need a larger sample size.*

(f) from 114th in Points per game (19.4, left the critical one for last) to something competent like 44th (which is estimated at 30PPG)

*We are currently ranked 7th at 43 points/game.*

Great follow-up.

I know it’s only three games in … but unreal.

Sure it’s small a sample size, especially since a lot of our TDs have come out of the redzone, but 100% is phenomenal 12 quarters in. Are there any other 100% teams out there, Lu?

Last year we literally couldn’t punch it in from the 2 with four downs. Multiple times.
 
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