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To be honest none of us know what to expect in 19.but I will say this the buzz around this team reminds me of summers of 82&99.you could feel the electricity mojo of the team building up.all I want is an offense that doesn't put me to sleep watching it.
 
MainLineCane said:
SORRY Duke but NOT in any of the rankings I've seen. Not in 247, ESPN or SI

Just saying it doesn't make it so.

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But Duke I'll gladly stand corrected if you can show me a reputable source that gave him 5 stars

We haven't had a 5 star QB here since Kyle Wright.

Having a 5 star would have been big news here and to date I've NEVER heard that
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Don't remember which one but he was definitely rated 5* and #1 DT QB at some point. Found a couple articles from back then.
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Dwinstitles said:
We have enough talent to cruise through the Coastal period and we "so called" have the coaching in place so no excuses. I expect maybe one loss to UF if not unbeaten IMO. The UF game is a barometer for the season cause if we win which we should and could then no ones beating us in the ACC period unless there some corching going on.
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If Miami wins against UF in week 1, there's no excuse to lose to anyone else on the schedule outside of unlucky bounces (which could still happen). I just don't want to put too much emphasis on the first game of not only the season but of the Manny Diaz era. They could just as easily lose that game and look bad but put it together and win out.

I mean, if Wisconsin, who isn't usually loaded with NFL players can consistently win their crappy half of the Big10, there's no excuse for Miami not to win their crappy half of the ACC.
 
Everybody relax. This article deems us a "solid underdog" against FSU. Word?

It states we have the following chance against FSU: 20.1% – 35% = solid underdog (@FSU)

Meanwhile, the Golden Nugget casino in Vegas just released its Games of the Year lines a couple days ago and has FSU -1.5 against us, which pretty much equates to a pick'em spread.
 
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DTP said:
If Miami wins against UF in week 1, there's no excuse to lose to anyone else on the schedule outside of unlucky bounces (which could still happen). I just don't want to put too much emphasis on the first game of not only the season but of the Manny Diaz era. They could just as easily lose that game and look bad but put it together and win out.

I mean, if Wisconsin, who isn't usually loaded with NFL players can consistently win their crappy half of the Big10, there's no excuse for Miami not to win their crappy half of the ACC.
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I mean this team was a couple stupid turnovers against Georgia Tech and Duke from winning 9 games LAST year. All their wins, aside from FSU were blowouts. I just can't see a way that the offense can't be better than last year. Also, despite being a team that forced a ton of turnovers, they still finished -1 in turnover differential. Assuming regression to the mean, this team could actually continue to suck on offense and still win 9 or 10 games.
 
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supersaiyanshel said:
We will always out recruit the other teams in the Coastal. Whether we lose to them or not. Al. Ways. Jimbo lost 4 games how many years losing too putrid Atlantic teams, and was still pulling in the big boys, mainly bc he beat our *** every season which is what he was selling (among other things).

I think we'll win 9-10 myself, but if you're telling me we're going to be 8-4, then I want 2 of those 8 wins to be against our biggest rivals.
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But our goal I thought was not out recruiting the Coastal teams. Everyone around here compares us to the Bamas, GAs, etc. and cry went we lose an "elite" to them. Four losses in the coastal after beating UF and FSU signals to many of our remaining targets, we're not ready for prime time. It could make holding our class together more difficult for our best recruits.

However it turns out, it's a must to show we're heading in the right direction or all this TNM magic that Manny's been creating will go for naught.
 
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duke4heisman said:
Don't remember which one but he was definitely rated 5* and #1 DT QB at some point. Found a couple articles from back then.
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Duke I was almost about to buy it ....because your print was so large and the pics were impressive UNTIL..... I went to the 2017 Maxprep site .....BTW they use the 247 rankings

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Sorry he's NOT listed as a 5 star there on the 2017 Maxprep site.....

Just goes to show that the 5 star ranking is used loosely in media outside of sports

Anyway it doesn't matter now agreed?

Press clippings doesn't win you a starting job at Miami
 
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Those of you even attempting to do your best Don Bailey Jr impression and somehow trying to make the *** backwards retarded case that 8 wins would be acceptable need to keep in mind our schedule is DOG **** and we play in the ACC.

The ACC is basically Clemson and the seven dwarfs. I can accept losing to Florida and Clemson, I won't accept losing to anyone else on that schedule given who we are playing this year and our talent relative to those respective teams.

Excuses are over. We have enough talent to run through the Coastal.
 
Liberty City El said:
Justin Fuente went 10-4 his first season at Va Tech (not his first HC job though)
Lincoln Riley went 12-2 his first season as a HC at Oklahoma
Tom Herman went 13-1 his first season at Houston (but it's much easier to do that in the G5)
Josh Heupel went 12-1his season at UCF (again, easier to do at a G5)
John Harbaugh went 10-3 his first season at Michigan (was his 3rd college HC job)
Paul Chryst went 10-3 his first season at Wisconsin (was his 2nd HC job)
Jimmy McShark****er went 10-4 his first season at UF (was his 2nd HC job)
Kevin Sumlin went 11-2 in his first season at TAMU (was his 2nd HC job)
Jeff Tedford went 10-4 in his first season at Fresno St (was his 2nd HC job & G5)
David Shaw went 11-2 in his first season as a HC at Stanford
Chris Petersen went 13-0 in his first season as a HC at Boise St (different era, but still beat Okla in the Fiesta Bowl)
Gus Malzahn went 12-2 in his first season at Auburn (was his 2nd HC job)
Dan Mullen went 10-3 in his first season at UF (was his 2nd HC job)
Jumbo Fisher went 10-4 his first season at FSU
Steve Addazio went 9-4 his first season at Temple (G5)

Winning 10 games in your first season ever as a P5 Head Coach is rare, not impossible, but rare. In almost every situation the first time HC was coming into a program that was already built & managed to make some slight tweaks to keep things steady from the previous HC that had success.

So, what we have to hope for is that our situation is more like David Shaw or Lincoln Riley when they took over the program, but the difference is those teams were being run by very good HC's who could easily pass the baton, that's not exactly the case with what we had with Richt. Ryan Day at Oh St actually fits this profile perfectly having Urby Liar hand over the program to him & will most likely seamlessly transition into a Lincoln Riley type first season.

I think 9-3/10-2 is plausible & if we win our Bowl game we could end up at 10-3 or 11-2 at the end of the season. 8-4 would be a big disappointment due to our schedule, but people talking about banners or Diaz being on the hot seat after year 1 are basically just confirming that Earnest T Bass was 100% right about this fanbase, which is downright sad.

I also find it hilarious how all yall jumped on Tony Perps for saying Diaz has a 1 year window to prove himself, but then in this thread yall are all only giving him 1 year to prove himself lol.

I think we'll go 10-2/11-2 this year, I would not be happy with a 8-4 season, but I'm not grabbing the pitchforks in year 1 unless we go 7-5/7-6 again. Some of the best coaches in college football didn't go undefeated or 12-1 in their first year ever as a HC, year 2 is the real barometer. Almost every great P5 college coach regardless of what their record was in year 1 had a great year 2.
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Agree 100% LCE. As usual, you bring your sensibility to the board. 8-4 would be disappointing, but I too wouldn't be calling for Manny's head; especially if the losses were highly competitive.

I don't think there's a team on the schedule we can't beat. The gaytor will be interesting; especially the first game for Manny and the new staff, but I believe that game is very winnable. UVA at home will be a challenge. Pitt could be a challenge away. And even though FSpoo is a dumpster fire, it's at their place and it's FSpoo.

10-2 is a very reasonable expectation. Play well against Clem$on in the ACCCG - by then the system will be fully implemented (who knows, it's not far fetched to say we could win it).
 
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jmccomber5 said:
What 6 teams had better talent than us last year? Outside of Clemson, was Pitt or Wisconsin better in 2017? We have had more talent on our roster than 90% of the teams we play every year, yet here we are averaging 8 wins per year over the last decade.
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They were WAYYYYYY better coached.

Poor off season preparation set this team up to fail. There was a reason we were ranked #8 preaseason. Richt didn’t adjust properly to get Malik rolling and didn’t put in the effort necessary to get a competent punter.

His unwillingness to play dink and dunk with an inaccurate qb was the beginning of the end. He had good plays. His problem was that he was ultra predictable and didn’t build counters to some of the sound concepts he introduced sporadically.

He should have run more playaction on first down. He did against FSU and got 8 or 9 yards. He ran the SAME play the NEXT play and got N’Kosi strip sacked. Who calls playaction back to back? On 2nd & 1 or 2?

He had the WORST rhythm I ever saw from a play caller in 2018. The personnel usage was head scratching too.

He was REALLY BAD last year and it sunk the season.

I expect 10-2 as most likely. We split UF/FSU and drop a random upset to a coastal team.

There is a small chance we get some bad break and have a 1999 like season.

It is hard for most people to predict this because the defense is SO GOOD. That puts us in every game.

It is difficult to imagine 4 losses with an average or better offense, which we will be.
 
Liberty City El said:
Justin Fuente went 10-4 his first season at Va Tech (not his first HC job though)
Lincoln Riley went 12-2 his first season as a HC at Oklahoma
Tom Herman went 13-1 his first season at Houston (but it's much easier to do that in the G5)
Josh Heupel went 12-1his season at UCF (again, easier to do at a G5)
John Harbaugh went 10-3 his first season at Michigan (was his 3rd college HC job)
Paul Chryst went 10-3 his first season at Wisconsin (was his 2nd HC job)
Jimmy McShark****er went 10-4 his first season at UF (was his 2nd HC job)
Kevin Sumlin went 11-2 in his first season at TAMU (was his 2nd HC job)
Jeff Tedford went 10-4 in his first season at Fresno St (was his 2nd HC job & G5)
David Shaw went 11-2 in his first season as a HC at Stanford
Chris Petersen went 13-0 in his first season as a HC at Boise St (different era, but still beat Okla in the Fiesta Bowl)
Gus Malzahn went 12-2 in his first season at Auburn (was his 2nd HC job)
Dan Mullen went 10-3 in his first season at UF (was his 2nd HC job)
Jumbo Fisher went 10-4 his first season at FSU
Steve Addazio went 9-4 his first season at Temple (G5)

Winning 10 games in your first season ever as a P5 Head Coach is rare, not impossible, but rare. In almost every situation the first time HC was coming into a program that was already built & managed to make some slight tweaks to keep things steady from the previous HC that had success.

So, what we have to hope for is that our situation is more like David Shaw or Lincoln Riley when they took over the program, but the difference is those teams were being run by very good HC's who could easily pass the baton, that's not exactly the case with what we had with Richt. Ryan Day at Oh St actually fits this profile perfectly having Urby Liar hand over the program to him & will most likely seamlessly transition into a Lincoln Riley type first season.

I think 9-3/10-2 is plausible & if we win our Bowl game we could end up at 10-3 or 11-2 at the end of the season. 8-4 would be a big disappointment due to our schedule, but people talking about banners or Diaz being on the hot seat after year 1 are basically just confirming that Earnest T Bass was 100% right about this fanbase, which is downright sad.

I also find it hilarious how all yall jumped on Tony Perps for saying Diaz has a 1-year window to prove himself, but then in this thread yall are all only giving him 1 year to prove himself lol.

I think we'll go 10-2/11-2 this year, I would not be happy with an 8-4 season, but I'm not grabbing the pitchforks in year 1 unless we go 7-5/7-6 again. Some of the best coaches in college football didn't go undefeated or 12-1 in their first year ever as an HC, year 2 is the real barometer. Almost every great P5 college coach regardless of what their record was in year 1 had a great year 2.
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Then it begs the question of how far away are we? What I mean is - we went 7-6 last year with a championship defense and one of the worst offense and special teams I’ve ever seen. We lost 3 games by a possession last year where our defense still held us in the game. If our offense improved by 7 points per game and everything else stayed equal, we had a 10 win season. We didn’t, so now we are in the reality of coming off a 7 win season because we couldn’t score.

So we have to answer 1. If our defense regresses, how much? 2. Do Enos and a new staff kickstart our offense to improve enough to offset any defensive regression? 3. It literally can’t get worse on defensive specials, so the only place to go is up - then how high and what impact? I think we were better than a 7 win team last year the same way I didn’t think we were a 10 win team in 2017. It all depends on this offense’s ability to improve enough to win the games they lost last year and that our defense stays around the same level.
 
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NorthEastCane said:
But our goal I thought was not out recruiting the Coastal teams. Everyone around here compares us to the Bamas, GAs, etc. and cry went we lose an "elite" to them. Four losses in the coastal after beating UF and FSU signals to many of our remaining targets, we're not ready for prime time. It could make holding our class together more difficult for our best recruits.

However it turns out, it's a must to show we're heading in the right direction or all this TNM magic that Manny's been creating will go for naught.
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What were Saban's, Oregeron's, Kirby's, and Dabo's records their first season w their current teams ?

Y'all really expect Manny to come in here and have a Lincoln Riley like first season ?

And where did I say the goal was to outrecruit the coastal teams ? Pretty sure I was saying the goal was to outrecruit FSU and UF (which btw, we never will on a regular basis).
 
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jmccomber5 said:
Then it begs the question of how far away are we? What I mean is - we went 7-6 last year with a championship defense and one of the worst offense and special teams I’ve ever seen. We lost 3 games by a possession last year where our defense was still held us in the game. If our offense improved by 7 points per game and everything else stayed equal, we had a 10 win season. We didn’t, so now we are in the reality of coming off a 7 win season because we couldn’t score.

So we have to answer 1. If our defense regresses, how much? 2. Does Enos and a new staff kickstart our offense to improve enough to offset any defensive regression? 3. It literally can’t get worse on defensive specials, so the only place to go is up - then how high and what impact? I think we were better than a 7 win team last year the same way I didn’t think we were a 10 win team in 2017. It all depends on this offense’s ability to improve enough to win the games they lost last year and that our defense stays around the same level.
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I agree.

The Offense last year was literally one of the worst ever in school history, if the Offense improves this year we 100% win 9-10 games this year.

I don't think our Defense regresses as much as most of the board does, I think they'll still be top 5-10 & I expect ST's be fully improved as well.

I absolutely think we're going 10-2 plus a bowl game win this year, where I disagree with the rest of the board is that I don't think Diaz should be fired after year 1, which is outrageous I know lol.
 
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Let the players get in a rhythm, and stay on the field. Subs and disruption, bad play calls, and conditioning, affected the flow of too many games.
Good conditioning therefore, will keep us in games in the 4th, because that is the 1/4 that we are playing for.......
10-2 and a great Bowl win......we are coming back.....
 
Lol at our fans already declaring if X Y Z happens in year 1 of Coach’s Diaz’s HC career that they won’t have any confidence going forward or he’s going to be a failure.

Do I think we can and should be a 10 win team this year? Absolutely. But making grand declarations before the season even starts is silly. You all don’t know how good or bad the teams we play will be. You’re basing it on last year, while also saying what we did last year has no impact on the team we will be this year. It’s contradictory and doesn’t make sense.

I’m hoping for a team with a competent game plan on offense that fights and scraps for 4 quarters. I’m expecting at minimum, the same high level of defensive play and improvement on ST.

But I’m not going to go around making demands based on our end of the year record or what teams we HAVE to beat etc. I’ll leave that for the fair weather fans who will undoubtedly turn on Coach Diaz at the first sign of trouble.
 
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