Mel and Todd on Canes D Ends

[5XNC]

how nuts would our d line be this year with GR and JP and Roche? it's fun to imagine. 3rd and more than 5 or 6 and all 3 on the field with silvera. oh man

 

[DMoney]

If Rousseau comes in ready for the combine, I doubt he slips much. Teams will see a freak who had 15.5 sacks in his only season.

Kwity Paye, the next closest edge prospect, has 11.5 sacks in his entire four-year career.

 

[blushrts]

Kiper's hair hasn't moved in 150 years.

 

[Sabetta]

Chances of Phillips playing in a bowl, if there is one, is 1%. Roche still has a lot to prove IMO. He’s been good but got thoroughly dominated last week by a top OT prospect.

 

[Umbra]

IMO Rosseau cost himself several million initially by not playing this year.

I think he goes more like 12-15 when he could have gone top 5 ish.

He made Philips millions by giving him all that playing time too. GR15 hurting us twice lol.

 

[edge]

If what Kiper says is true, and what most of us said btw, then GR cost himself millions not playing this season. If he plays, legit top 5 pick. Now he probably slips to 12 to 15 range. That’s a lot of money left on the table. But I guess if he is legit he will make it up in second contract.

 

[Patreek]

Rousseau being an inconsistent finisher is a huge red flag we fans don’t want to believe. Really unpopular opinion here but that’s a fundamental difference between him and Nesta or Phillips. Nesta is high motor and relentless. Phillips is an insane athlete who is relentless.

Roche is good but I expected more out of him, I’d be surprised if he could play outside linebacker in the NFL but who knows. He’s good but had Rousseau stayed Roche would have had his playing time cut in half easily.

 

[mirasuegui]

Rousseau better test well at combine.. Interviews he will do well and his measurements will make them happy, but he took season off to workout, he better test thru the roof and be in excellent shape.. He shows up out of shape, that mid first round might tumble

Again Rousseau plays this year and balls out top 5 pick, to much of a risk to hurt freshmen year played last year around dozen games, then takes a year and a half off : Phillips keeps balling and setting himself up nicely :

 

[RozayCane]

Greg, Phillips, Roche & Nesta on the field at the same time.. would have been disgusting .

 

[Koke]

Round 4 is generous for Roche, he’s been shut down bad some games.

 

[Brains]

Unfortunately Phillips is gone. He’s coming on late like a freight train.

It is what it is.

Time to start the DE U marketing train.

 

[Canes2082]

This is ok with me... if Phillips gets a 1st round grade I understand totally... id be upset if he declares with a 3rd or 4th round and still has eligibility left

 

[Brains]

Phillips will go mid 2nd at the earliest. Definitely not 1st. Rousseau definitely 1st round and Roche late 3rd to early 4th. Either way Phillips is likely gone after this year. Let’s enjoy him the last 4 games.

Agree, but if you get a 2nd-3rd round grade, you leave. I've accepted he's gone.

 

[Deleted member 25284]

If Rousseau comes in ready for the combine, I doubt he slips much. Teams will see a freak who had 15.5 sacks in his only season.

Kwity Paye, the next closest edge prospect, has 11.5 sacks in his entire four-year career.

He won’t slip out of the top 10. T, QB, pass rusher always rise not fall. He’s the best rush end in the draft

 

[Canes2082]

Round 4 is generous for Roche, he’s been shut down bad some games.

I admit i havent been paying a ton if attention but when i do i feel like hes been getting double teamed more than Phillips

 

[MizCane]

GR-15 lost ALOT of money by sitting out.

Time will tell

 

[Canes Brotherhood]

GR15 will be in elite shape and will kill the combine. He will be a top 10 pick.

 

[hiphopanimal]

I can't see Roche as a LB at the next level - He has flashed this season but been slightly underwhelming last few games.

If only he didn't line up offsides against Clemson!

 

[AllAboutTheU]

He won’t slip out of the top 10. T, QB, pass rusher always rise not fall. He’s the best rush end in the draft

Agreed. Look at some of the pass rushers that have risen in the draft over the last 10 years. It’s a premium draft position.

 

[Canes Device]

My thought process with GR is, if his heart wasn't in it to play them he did the right thing sitting out, even if cost him a few millions. I actually don't believe it will, because IF he's the top EDGE prospect in the class he will get picked top 10 easy and I think the "he would be top 5 if he played" is not necessarily true