I wonder what a universal background check for the shooter would have brought up?
I wonder if the mexican gangster he probably bought it from checked it? Just madness..
You mean an open border could pose a problem? I kid, I kid.
I wonder what a universal background check for the shooter would have brought up?
I wonder if the mexican gangster he probably bought it from checked it? Just madness..
Ok, I just want to state, that this is an entirely different discussion. I am not sure what changed over the last 50 years or so that has caused murders to go down, yet caused a new group to spring up with these mass shootings. I have no idea and never claimed to know. What do you make of it?
Yup and people still talk about the colombine guys. ALl these years later. They are even sometimes sympathized with like they were losers with no friends and bullied. When in reality they actually had a bunch of friends and weren't really bullied.My unproven theory is publicity. What’s different now than 50 or 60 or 70 years ago. All day news streaming, Twitter, TikTok, Instagram, live-streaming, etc… you get the message. Maybe I’m right maybe I’m wrong but nobody’s talking about it. Marshall McLuhan.
The weapons sure as **** make it easy thoughFacts. It's not the weapons, it's the mental health of the person.
Then what are we even debating? We're on the same page.yes, I have read some good theories on why murders are going down, but I wonder why mass shootings are going up. That was what I was wondering.
As far as guns being the problem. I do think they are part of the problem, because most of these guys wouldn't be able to kill a lot of people without them. However, I don't think banning them is the solution. I am a big 2A guy, and as mentioned before have flown all over the country to train at places like gunsite, thudner ranch, academi, Sig SAuer Academy, Rogers shooting, etc. So I am not some guy who never shot a gun before and doesn't know what I am talking about regarding shooting lol.
IDK lol. You were debating with me lmao. I was just telling Paksat he can't be using data from the 1500s to prove his point. IDC if one agrees or disagrees with my point. If you come up with a halfbaked theory or spread fake news or something like that. You are getting called out by me, even if it supports my agenda. lol.Then what are we even debating? We're on the same page.
Americans had access to weapons of mass-casualty for nearly two centuries.
Mass shootings in America are a recent phenomena... what do you make of that?
You'd be wrong.
I 100% feel you right now. It was surprisingly hard not to cry today reading about this tragedy. And since then the numbers have gone up. I can't resolve shooting little old ladies in church, people getting groceries, or kids in school. And people just keep getting further and further apart. For a society that's so up in everyone else's business, most people have no ******* clue what's going on around them.I assume you’re really angry but this comes off as callous and unserious. It’s like using the definition of homeostasis to justify or demonize abortion. I know nobody here would do that.
I had to pull my car over I was crying so hard over Sandy Hook. I’ve never owned a gun, but I’m generally pro 2A. I’ve lived around insanely high “guns per capita” areas my whole life, all with considerably low violent crime rates. And yet, if children in an elementary school still cannot be protected from this horror ten years later, we do not live in a civilized world. We live at a buffet for murderous cosplayers.
There must be a way to seriously decrease these attacks. If there isn’t, probably for the first time in my life, Id be in favor of increasing gun restrictions in a way that would deter or eliminate these slaughters. (Or in public torturing of the predator to dispel the power fantasy these monsters are enacting.)
I know the issues with increasing “gun control” measures right out of the gate. Law breakers break laws, and areas with tighter restrictions do not necessarily have less gun violence. But what we are in the midst of, with mentally and spiritually destitute young men carrying out acts of war on helpless people, cannot be acceptable in modern civilization. There most be a way to decrease or eliminate these attacks, and I’m not smart enough to know what they are (aside from the torture).
I do not know what the solution is. I do not want gun rights to go away. I cannot say “look, society is broken so this stuff is going to happen” any longer. There has to be a smarter, more effective way to handle this. I know hundreds of gun owners and the only one whose ever committed an act of violence with his weapon did so in self defense.
I have multiple children in elementary school and my heart is shattered for these kids, these parents, the community. The classmates and best buddies that are gone forever, the parents who feel they have lost the very reason they exist, all while they were away. Harming the helpless is the most devious thing mankind can do. Helping them is among the most noble. There has to be a way to balance the scales.
MK ultra perhaps?
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Sorry If I didn't prove a negative manifested from your confirmation bias.No need to get so triggered. Thanks for providing stats to back up your point.
Not when guns don't kill people they can't. Its just weird how the rest of the western countries also have some level of mental health issues/play video games/have social media/ are on antipsychotics but seem to have found so few other ways to kill kids at school.Can a gun issue and mental health issue not coexist at the same time?
Thats because the eastern bloc guns are all but dried up at this point. You could have bought a mosin nagant or an SKS for 80 bucks 10 years ago in NY. I can't do that anymore, but I can go buy an AR just as easily.When I was a teen I could go to Roses and buy an SKS and ammo to feed it...
Can I do that today as easily in the same state??! ****-the-fu-no.
You soft-shouldered liberals didn't grow up breaking chicken necks or shooting turkeys or bucks. Hence your fear of boom-sticks.
- After further inspection of the deceased suspect’s clothing, it now appears the suspect was not wearing body armor as previous information had indicated. Instead, Ramos is said to have been wearing only a plate carrier with no ballistic armor inside when he exchanged gun fire with several officers at the school.
Facts. It's not the weapons, it's the mental health of the person.