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If Mario never went here, nobody would talk about him.
FIU was a brand new football program when Mario went there. He was also a brand new coach.
He’s got a top 5 class right now at Oregon. That’s never happened before
For all of our fans falling all over themselves to hire this guy, allow me to present some painful facts:
- He has a career head coaching record of 35-52.
- He’s coached 7 full seasons in his career.
- He’s NEVER won 9 games.
- He’s never been a coordinator (ONE year as a Co-OC)
- He was fired from FIU after winning 3 games in his sixth season.
- Butch just won 9 games at FIU in year 2.
Just a few comparisons to some other candidates being discussed who have head coaching experience:
Mike Leach:
- Leach went 57-31 in his first 7 seasons
- Two seasons with 9+ wins during that time
Matt Campbell:
- Campbell went 54-33 in his first 7 seasons
- Three seasons with 9+ wins during that time
Dino Babers:
- Babers went 55-35 in his first 7 seasons
- Theee seasons with 10+ wins during that time
Mario is another CEO:
Mario does not have a side of the ball he specializes in. He isn’t some defensive wizard, or a cutting edge offensive guru. He makes his name being an intense guy that people think can recruit. He did his recruiting while running around with an A slapped on his polo asking kids if they wanted to play for Nick Saban. I ask, is that a difficult task?
- Cristobal is yet another CEO that would require two ace coordinator hires.
- He is not some innovative brilliant X and O guy.
- We wouldn’t be able to leave one side of the ball completely under his watch.
- His recruiting prowess mostly comes from recruiting for Nick Saban and the top program.
- We’ve learned the last few years talent isn’t enough.
- As a head coach, he’a failed to do the one thing he’s supposed to: win.
Hmmm.
A guy that people say is high energy, a good recruiter, but would come to Miami with a losing record and doesn’t have a track record of being elite on one side of the ball as a coordinator... sound familiar?
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PREACHButch has the skills to REBUILD the program ..... and most people are ignoring this ..
Miami needs to be REBUILT .... that will take someone with the PROVEN SKILLS to do that
We're going to need to root for Cristobal to turn us down....cause he's exactly the type of lazy hire our admins are going to jump all over.
So you're saying you don't have faith in the tranny *****?
For all of our fans falling all over themselves to hire this guy, allow me to present some painful facts:
- He has a career head coaching record of 35-52.
- He’s coached 7 full seasons in his career.
- He’s NEVER won 9 games.
- He’s never been a coordinator (ONE year as a Co-OC)
- He was fired from FIU after winning 3 games in his sixth season.
- Butch just won 9 games at FIU in year 2.
Just a few comparisons to some other candidates being discussed who have head coaching experience:
Mike Leach:
- Leach went 57-31 in his first 7 seasons
- Two seasons with 9+ wins during that time
Matt Campbell:
- Campbell went 54-33 in his first 7 seasons
- Three seasons with 9+ wins during that time
Dino Babers:
- Babers went 55-35 in his first 7 seasons
- Theee seasons with 10+ wins during that time
Mario is another CEO:
Mario does not have a side of the ball he specializes in. He isn’t some defensive wizard, or a cutting edge offensive guru. He makes his name being an intense guy that people think can recruit. He did his recruiting while running around with an A slapped on his polo asking kids if they wanted to play for Nick Saban. I ask, is that a difficult task?
- Cristobal is yet another CEO that would require two ace coordinator hires.
- He is not some innovative brilliant X and O guy.
- We wouldn’t be able to leave one side of the ball completely under his watch.
- His recruiting prowess mostly comes from recruiting for Nick Saban and the top program.
- We’ve learned the last few years talent isn’t enough.
- As a head coach, he’a failed to do the one thing he’s supposed to: win.
Hmmm.
A guy that people say is high energy, a good recruiter, but would come to Miami with a losing record and doesn’t have a track record of being elite on one side of the ball as a coordinator... sound familiar?
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It's not like he doesn't already have a bad hire, a bad extension, and several failing sports programs under his belt.
What could go wrong?
You conveniently left out the part where he was groomed by Nick SabanFor all of our fans falling all over themselves to hire this guy, allow me to present some painful facts:
- He has a career head coaching record of 35-52.
- He’s coached 7 full seasons in his career.
- He’s NEVER won 9 games.
- He’s never been a coordinator (ONE year as a Co-OC)
- He was fired from FIU after winning 3 games in his sixth season.
- Butch just won 9 games at FIU in year 2.
Just a few comparisons to some other candidates being discussed who have head coaching experience:
Mike Leach:
- Leach went 57-31 in his first 7 seasons
- Two seasons with 9+ wins during that time
Matt Campbell:
- Campbell went 54-33 in his first 7 seasons
- Three seasons with 9+ wins during that time
Dino Babers:
- Babers went 55-35 in his first 7 seasons
- Theee seasons with 10+ wins during that time
Mario is another CEO:
Mario does not have a side of the ball he specializes in. He isn’t some defensive wizard, or a cutting edge offensive guru. He makes his name being an intense guy that people think can recruit. He did his recruiting while running around with an A slapped on his polo asking kids if they wanted to play for Nick Saban. I ask, is that a difficult task?
- Cristobal is yet another CEO that would require two ace coordinator hires.
- He is not some innovative brilliant X and O guy.
- We wouldn’t be able to leave one side of the ball completely under his watch.
- His recruiting prowess mostly comes from recruiting for Nick Saban and the top program.
- We’ve learned the last few years talent isn’t enough.
- As a head coach, he’a failed to do the one thing he’s supposed to: win.
Hmmm.
A guy that people say is high energy, a good recruiter, but would come to Miami with a losing record and doesn’t have a track record of being elite on one side of the ball as a coordinator... sound familiar?
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You conveniently left out the part where he was groomed by Nick Saban
I agree with everything except his recruiting being good just at Bama. He just signed a top 5 class at Oregon coming off an 8 win season. He would probably kill it down here in recruiting. Just not sure about the coaching part.
For all of our fans falling all over themselves to hire this guy, allow me to present some painful facts:
- He has a career head coaching record of 35-52.
- He’s coached 7 full seasons in his career.
- He’s NEVER won 9 games.
- He’s never been a coordinator (ONE year as a Co-OC)
- He was fired from FIU after winning 3 games in his sixth season.
- Butch just won 9 games at FIU in year 2.
Just a few comparisons to some other candidates being discussed who have head coaching experience:
Mike Leach:
- Leach went 57-31 in his first 7 seasons
- Two seasons with 9+ wins during that time
Matt Campbell:
- Campbell went 54-33 in his first 7 seasons
- Three seasons with 9+ wins during that time
Dino Babers:
- Babers went 55-35 in his first 7 seasons
- Theee seasons with 10+ wins during that time
Mario is another CEO:
Mario does not have a side of the ball he specializes in. He isn’t some defensive wizard, or a cutting edge offensive guru. He makes his name being an intense guy that people think can recruit. He did his recruiting while running around with an A slapped on his polo asking kids if they wanted to play for Nick Saban. I ask, is that a difficult task?
- Cristobal is yet another CEO that would require two ace coordinator hires.
- He is not some innovative brilliant X and O guy.
- We wouldn’t be able to leave one side of the ball completely under his watch.
- His recruiting prowess mostly comes from recruiting for Nick Saban and the top program.
- We’ve learned the last few years talent isn’t enough.
- As a head coach, he’a failed to do the one thing he’s supposed to: win.
Hmmm.
A guy that people say is high energy, a good recruiter, but would come to Miami with a losing record and doesn’t have a track record of being elite on one side of the ball as a coordinator... sound familiar?
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What the **** is “groomed by Nick Saban”?Doesn't even come close to outweighing all the possible negatives. Leave Mario in the Pacific NW
Leach would fly his own **** banners. Dude is a SAVAGE.I'm a Cristobal fan, but **** you make a compelling argument!
What the **** is “groomed by Nick Saban”?
A guy like Nick Saban doesn’t get to his position by offering up his knowledge and wisdom to some ******* from Miami he brought specifically to land one or two elite recruits per season.
You mean he was demoted by Saban and basically forced out of BamaYou conveniently left out the part where he was groomed by Nick Saban