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Lane Kiffin is realistic (info).

Badbart43 said:
What we really really need now is stability. We need an ace recruiter who is gonna come in and build the trenches the right way. Mario comes for 5-7 years and our depth will be incredible. In those 5 years, we will get a natty because the ACC is there for the taking.

Lane would leave after 3 years without a natty and our D recruiting would severely drop. Lane might shock with a natty next year, but Mario would be building a dynasty ala Bama.
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Why stabilize a rock bottom program? What we really need now is gasoline and competence. Give us Lane for a 2-3 year period and if he leaves after that it means he's done a good job. And then we'll need stability.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
His first full cycle was 2018, when he was not in the Top 10. And before protesting that he "just got hired as HC", he was on the staff for a full year prior to signing the 2018 class. Again, not taking anything away from him, it was a transition year, but let's not pretend that he first landed in Eugene a few weeks before National Signing Day
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I didn’t use that one because I was trying to be “fair”. I’m a Mario skeptic
 
I posted earlier I like Lane, but he just strikes me as an immature dude. We got posters here upset that Manny is slipping and sliding and want someone who's got some immaturity issues as well. Give me a serious **** that wants to win and cares about nothing else.
 
RivercityCane said:
Definitely would jump at the Miami job after listening, lol. Brown water….lmao…
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"There is a lake. I have not been on it. I have driven by it. But people go on it." :zczkqmritjdsoaq.jpg:

"Yes they have pontoon boats. I got spoiled with faster moving boats living in South Florida."


Lane, blink twice if you want to leave Ole Miss.

Cribby said:
Anyone that knows him would tell you he’d be out of that **** hole before the sun set to come here. That’s why I posted with confidence other day “ he’d come if we wanted him”.
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After watching the Lebatard interview I'm pretty sure we could get him for $2M a year.
 
DeanCane said:
You are always talking down to everyone on the board. Take it easy. Please list coaches you would rather have then Lane, since he clearly is down on your list?
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So you are choosing to white-knight for some whiny porster? Your choice.

Look, you have no idea who I am or what I'm about. I do not even come close to "talking down to everyone on the board". I am friendly with many, many posters on the board, and have met many in person or via Zoom.

I also have a very low tolerance level for false or misleading or stereotyping or cliched or repetitive porsts. If you ever feel like you have been "talked down to", maybe you should re-evaluate your porst.

But, hey, for today, I'm going to play along with your misguided post. It's not only misguided because you have misjudged me personally, but it's also misguided because of your incorrect assertion that Lane is "clearly down on my list". In case my MANY posts on the subject are unclear, I'll make it very clear.

I don't have a list.

Lane isn't "up" or "down" on my list. I am well aware of what he has done throughout his entire career. He's an outstanding coach on the field. I am also very cognizant of how Lane has behaved (both publicly and privately) throughout his career, and I feel that nearly every Lane Train fanboy thinks that he should get a job offer based solely on his recent W-L performance, rather than the entirety of his role as a head coach and face of a football program.

Look, I speak very honestly, very frankly, very bluntly, and I'm not going to apologize for any of that. Some people appreciate that, and others get ****y about it and claim they are "talked down to". So here's the bottom line. It doesn't matter if I have Lane #1 or #101 on my non-existent list. As a UM alum, and based on what I have seen from our Board of Trustees over the past 35 years, I feel that if the BOT responds as they have always responded (and it is always possible that they will chart a new course and do something completely out of character), I find it highly unlikely that Lane Kiffin will get either an interview or an offer if there is a frank and open conversation regarding his public and not-so-public behavior. That is NOT my opinion of whether he should or should not receive an interview or offer, it is just an assessment of how I believe the nearly 100 millionaires or multi-millionaires on the BOT will respond if there is a debate on any factors beyond Lane Kiffin's current W-L record.

So, for the most part, all of this is moot. It really doesn't matter if 1,000 porsters jump on the Lane Train. It doesn't matter if there are 10,000 well-reasoned posts extolling all of Lane's coaching attributes. If you can't get the BOT to look the other way on all the red flags, then nothing else matters. And maybe it will happen. I just harbor serious doubts. It is great that Jose Mas is leading the charge for change right now, but I'm not sure there are 51 Trustees who will sign off on a "close your eyes and just focus on his current W-L record" hiring of a guy who would be the face of UM football.

Sorry. I've tried to hint. I have nothing against Lane personally. But the stories I've heard from people with strong connections to USC are very similar to the stories I've heard from people at FAU. The myth of Lane Kiffin, reformed bad boy, is not what it appears to be. He's a fine coach. Wins a lot. Calls great plays. No disputes there. And he certainly has some fans on the UM BOT for what he does on the field. Maybe those supporters can convince others. But with 35 years of being a UM student and alum, and having observed how the BOT operates...I just don't see it.

Sorry if you feel talked down to.
 
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Cryptical Envelopment said:
"There is a lake. I have not been on it. I have driven by it. But people go on it." :zczkqmritjdsoaq.jpg:

"Yes they have pontoon boats. I got spoiled with faster moving boats living in South Florida."


Lane, blink twice if you want to leave Ole Miss.



After watching the Lebatard interview I'm pretty sure we could get him for $2M a year.
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I love that he not only said they have a **** colored lake he's never been on, but he has to drive one hour to have a drink at a place that isn't a ****hole dive bar.
 
fincane said:
I didn’t use that one because I was trying to be “fair”. I’m a Mario skeptic
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I don't mind if you are a Mario skeptic. But there's no reason to be skeptical on his recruiting. ****, I give him credit for having a pretty decent 2018 class, in spite of Taggart bailing out for F$U.
 
TimeBum said:
I love that he not only said they have a **** colored lake he's never been on, but he has to drive one hour to have a drink at a place that isn't a ****hole dive bar.
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"Put my hand down there? I don't even want to put my foot in there. Who knows what's on the bottom? You don't put a pool in your back yard and fill it with brown water, right?"

:ROFLMAO:
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
So you are choosing to white-knight for some whiny porster? Your choice.

Look, you have no idea who I am or what I'm about. I do not even come close to "talking down to everyone on the board". I am friendly with many, many posters on the board, and have met many in person or via Zoom.

I also have a very low tolerance level for false or misleading or stereotyping or cliched or repetitive porsts. If you ever feel like you have been "talked down to", maybe you should re-evaluate your porst.

But, hey, for today, I'm going to play along with your misguided post. It's not only misguided because you have misjudged me personally, but it's also misguided because of your incorrect assertion that Lane is "clearly down on my list". In case my MANY posts on the subject are unclear, I'll make it very clear.

I don't have a list.

Lane isn't "up" or "down" on my list. I am well aware of what he has done throughout his entire career. He's an outstanding coach on the field. I am also very cognizant of how Lane has behaved (both publicly and privately) throughout his career, and I feel that nearly every Lane Train fanboy thinks that he should get a job offer based solely on his recent W-L performance, rather than the entirety of his role as a head coach and face of a football program.

Look, I speak very honestly, very frankly, very bluntly, and I'm not going to apologize for any of that. Some people appreciate that, and others get ****y about it and claim they are "talked down to". So here's the bottom line. It doesn't matter if I have Lane #1 or #101 on my non-existent list. As a UM alum, and based on what I have seen from our Board of Trustees over the past 35 years, I feel that if the BOT responds as they have always responded (and it is always possible that they will chart a new course and do something completely out of character), I find it highly unlikely that Lane Kiffin will get either an interview or an offer if there is a frank and open conversation regarding his public and not-so-public behavior. That is NOT my opinion of whether he should or should not receive an interview or offer, it is just an assessment of how I believe the nearly 100 millionaires or multi-millionaires on the BOT will respond if there is a debate on any factors beyond Lane Kiffin's current W-L record.

So, for the most part, all of this is moot. It really doesn't matter if 1,000 porsters jump on the Lane Train. It doesn't matter if there are 10,000 well-reasoned posts extolling all of Lane's coaching attributes. If you can't get the BOT to look the other way on all the red flags, then nothing else matters. And maybe it will happen. I just harbor serious doubts. It is great that Jose Mas is leading the charge for change right now, but I'm not sure there are 51 Trustees who will sign off on a "close your eyes and just focus on his current W-L record" hiring of a guy who would be the face of UM football.

Sorry. I've tried to hint. I have nothing against Lane personally. But the stories I've heard from people with strong connections to USC are very similar to the stories I've heard from people at FAU. The myth of Lane Kiffin, reformed bad boy, is not what it appears to be. He's a fine coach. Wins a lot. Calls great plays. No disputes there. And he certainly has some fans on the UM BOT for what he does on the field. Maybe those supporters can convince others. But with 35 years of being a UM student and alum, and having observed how the BOT operates...I just don't see it.

Sorry if you feel talked down to.
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Lol if you're not an old boring white dude with a family you're a "bad boy"
 
AlexCane said:
I posted earlier I like Lane, but he just strikes me as an immature dude. We got posters here upset that Manny is slipping and sliding and want someone who's got some immaturity issues as well. Give me a serious **** that wants to win and cares about nothing else.
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His FAU hype video a couple of years ago was one of the most embarrassing things I’ve ever seen
 
AUcane said:
I think it's a fair question. UT gig was a disaster. He got into some hot water with the school and the SEC over comments he made, iirc, so his time there was going to be short lived. Not sure what to make of USC but I do know he got stuck with NCAA penalties, etc. It's hard to measure how much he's grown since then but I suspect Bama and FAU did a lot to rebuild him as a person and coach.
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He was fighting with Nick Saban until the end at Alabama, in fact correct me if I’m wrong, he basically got kicked to the curb during the playoffs. Am I right?
 
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