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Tad Footeball said:
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Why don't we specifically define what Ol' Puke has done first? He started a youth football program that served to boost his own reputation with dupes and which facilitated his own financial entanglements into said football community? Funny how we never hear about Ol' Puke just doing general run of the mill chatity or "saving" non future scholarship athletes.

So Vilma is a sellout because his charity (that is public) only involves building schools in Haiti, giving $500k to UM, investing in the community here business-wise, etc.? You HAVE to dip your hands into the local youth and high school football world to be some great philanthropist like Ol Puke?
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Your work in this thread has been impeccable. Vilma is bringing to the forefront the true issue which is what Luke really wants out of UM. He has no interest in what best serves the program, it is what serves him.

You want to know the real Uncle Pukkke? It is int he 1995 article over Ryan Collins. He dragged the player, the school, and the family through the mud over his own agenda of relevancy.

Here are the facts: Luke wants UM to be the stage for his guys, the players he wants to see playing for the brand he has convinced the world, and many inside this community, is his own.

He doesn't think a UM scholarship is worth anything. He wants UM to recruit practically every player he coaches, and when they don't he lambastes the program in public and in the community. Meanwhile, when he shops them to other schools, and they don't take the player, he just moves on to the next school.

He destroyed UM over firing Randy Shannon. Did he say a word to Texas when they sent Strong out of town for underperforming? What about UF when Shannon wasn't retained by the new, white head coach?

He significantly overstates his influence, too. Do you really think he was going to hand deliver Amari Cooper to UM? Was he really going to be the difference in flipping him from Bama and Saban to UM and Golden.

He makes Freeman a Golden issue, too, but ask him how much attention Randy Shannon was paying him beforehand.

He's a fraud, a cancer and a complete con-man. I am glad that Vilma, who's on ESPN, is fighting back and taking the reigns as the voice of this program.
 
simplycanes said:
Your work in this thread has been impeccable. Vilma is bringing to the forefront the true issue which is what Luke really wants out of UM. He has no interest in what best serves the program, it is what serves him.

You want to know the real Uncle Pukkke? It is int he 1995 article over Ryan Collins. He dragged the player, the school, and the family through the mud over his own agenda of relevancy.

Here are the facts: Luke wants UM to be the stage for his guys, the players he wants to see playing for the brand he has convinced the world, and many inside this community, is his own.

He doesn't think a UM scholarship is worth anything. He wants UM to recruit practically every player he coaches, and when they don't he lambastes the program in public and in the community. Meanwhile, when he shops them to other schools, and they don't take the player, he just moves on to the next school.

He destroyed UM over firing Randy Shannon. Did he say a word to Texas when they sent Strong out of town for underperforming? What about UF when Shannon wasn't retained by the new, white head coach?

He significantly overstates his influence, too. Do you really think he was going to hand deliver Amari Cooper to UM? Was he really going to be the difference in flipping him from Bama and Saban to UM and Golden.

He makes Freeman a Golden issue, too, but ask him how much attention Randy Shannon was paying him beforehand.

He's a fraud, a cancer and a complete con-man. I am glad that Vilma, who's on ESPN, is fighting back and taking the reigns as the voice of this program.
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I've constantly asked this as well because Puke has on a number of occasions attributed Freeman going to FSU as a Golden **** up. Whereas his boy, Randy wasn't even recruiting him (Randy's last year at Miami was during Freeman's recruiting cycle).
 
simplycanes said:
Your work in this thread has been impeccable. Vilma is bringing to the forefront the true issue which is what Luke really wants out of UM. He has no interest in what best serves the program, it is what serves him.

You want to know the real Uncle Pukkke? It is int he 1995 article over Ryan Collins. He dragged the player, the school, and the family through the mud over his own agenda of relevancy.

Here are the facts: Luke wants UM to be the stage for his guys, the players he wants to see playing for the brand he has convinced the world, and many inside this community, is his own.

He doesn't think a UM scholarship is worth anything. He wants UM to recruit practically every player he coaches, and when they don't he lambastes the program in public and in the community. Meanwhile, when he shops them to other schools, and they don't take the player, he just moves on to the next school.

He destroyed UM over firing Randy Shannon. Did he say a word to Texas when they sent Strong out of town for underperforming? What about UF when Shannon wasn't retained by the new, white head coach?

He significantly overstates his influence, too. Do you really think he was going to hand deliver Amari Cooper to UM? Was he really going to be the difference in flipping him from Bama and Saban to UM and Golden.

He makes Freeman a Golden issue, too, but ask him how much attention Randy Shannon was paying him beforehand.

He's a fraud, a cancer and a complete con-man. I am glad that Vilma, who's on ESPN, is fighting back and taking the reigns as the voice of this program.
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Spot. On.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Check out #2:

1. Ur 65yrs old tryin to start a twitter beef. STOP.
2. U know I know what schools & agents u got/get a cut from. STOP AGAIN.
3. Put ur money where ur mouth is and donate half a mil like I did or just STFU old man.

Ladies and gentlemen and that’s why Luke’s in this. He says it’s for the kids and the community. Bullshlt. It ain’t for the kids. He’s shopping the best kids to the highest bidders. Its strictly for the money. It’s for his cut. He ain't selling any records. This is how he makes his money. This is his family business now. Selling high school football players. He’s a glorified street agent.
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Luke is a Con Man period
 
gogeta4 said:
Nope...Bama came after...Amari was under the radar.,,until he started tearing up the camp scene
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That’s how I remember it. I also remember him wanting to commit but the staff and his mom told him to hold off in the summer. That’s how I remember it at least.
 
Tad Footeball said:
Why don't we specifically define what Ol' Puke has done first? He started a youth football program that served to boost his own reputation with dupes and which facilitated his own financial entanglements into said football community? Funny how we never hear about Ol' Puke just doing general run of the mill chatity or "saving" non future scholarship athletes.

So Vilma is a sellout because his charity (that is public) only involves building schools in Haiti, giving $500k to UM, investing in the community here business-wise, etc.? You HAVE to dip your hands into the local youth and high school football world to be some great philanthropist like Ol Puke?
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I wouldn't go so far as to call JV a sellout, but somebody who was rubbin' elbows with one of the biggest Ponzi schemers America has ever seen should look in the mirror before calling somebody a fraud...especially when He was more complicit in Miami kids going to FSU than Luke.
 
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simplycanes said:
Your work in this thread has been impeccable. Vilma is bringing to the forefront the true issue which is what Luke really wants out of UM. He has no interest in what best serves the program, it is what serves him.

You want to know the real Uncle Pukkke? It is int he 1995 article over Ryan Collins. He dragged the player, the school, and the family through the mud over his own agenda of relevancy.

Here are the facts: Luke wants UM to be the stage for his guys, the players he wants to see playing for the brand he has convinced the world, and many inside this community, is his own.

He doesn't think a UM scholarship is worth anything. He wants UM to recruit practically every player he coaches, and when they don't he lambastes the program in public and in the community. Meanwhile, when he shops them to other schools, and they don't take the player, he just moves on to the next school.

He destroyed UM over firing Randy Shannon. Did he say a word to Texas when they sent Strong out of town for underperforming? What about UF when Shannon wasn't retained by the new, white head coach?

He significantly overstates his influence, too. Do you really think he was going to hand deliver Amari Cooper to UM? Was he really going to be the difference in flipping him from Bama and Saban to UM and Golden.

He makes Freeman a Golden issue, too, but ask him how much attention Randy Shannon was paying him beforehand.

He's a fraud, a cancer and a complete con-man. I am glad that Vilma, who's on ESPN, is fighting back and taking the reigns as the voice of this program.
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Bravo.
 
Let me me make it real simple for some of you idiots.

Puke is a street agent shopping high school football players to the highest bidders to get his cut.

It’s not about the community or “helping kids”. It’s about getting his cut.
 
luke is interested in luke. he's had his 15 minutes and like a washed up singer/performer, he cant let go of the quest for the spotlight and does everything he can to remain in it.

i have no respect for him, he can't even spell correctly. i'm glad he's being called out by Vilma.
 
CaneSince4Ever said:
I wouldn't go so far as to call JV a sellout, but somebody who was rubbin' elbows with one of the biggest Ponzi schemers America has ever seen should look in the mirror before calling somebody a fraud...especially when He was more complicit in Miami kids going to FSU than Luke.
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So (allegedly) getting some handouts in college makes you a sellout? Lol.

Luke blackmailed the school, trashed them constantly, and has gotten the school into trouble himself. GTFO. Vilma is the guy you want representing the team.
 
Tony Perps said:
Exactly. Puke regularly calls out Miami and its coaches because we dont recruit the entire Northwestern squad. Puke is an opportunist groupie.

Vilma is an actual UM guy; not the type to root for a kid at FSU just because he’s at south florida. Vilma is a real cane. His allegiance is with UM not whoever gives him the most attention.
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Luke's allegience ISNT to UM. Its to the kids he has a relationship with. Thats where you guys get it wrong. Vilma is alumni and a donor, Luke's not on his level. Luke coaches these kids and has a relationship with a bunch..Vilma is not plugged in or on his level there either.

This page is going on 7 pages and still no answer to what kids were STEERED to FSU. Saying FSU got Miami kids means what?. They always have..Luke unless he coached them wasnt the reason for Miami kids going there. Only kid they got Luke relations with were Freeman and Emmitt Rice a lb..a kid we passed on and didnt recruit.
Vilma went with the ether with this though...lol. Jeez he BOMBED.
 
KevinCaneFace said:
So (allegedly) getting some handouts in college makes you a sellout? Lol.
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What part of "I wouldn't go so far as to call JV a sellout" don't you understand? Reading is fundamental, *****.

And I don't remember JV calling Shapiro a fraud, so I can understand why somebody would think He's a sellout...IJS.
 
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OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Check out #2:

1. Ur 65yrs old tryin to start a twitter beef. STOP.
2. U know I know what schools & agents u got/get a cut from. STOP AGAIN.
3. Put ur money where ur mouth is and donate half a mil like I did or just STFU old man.

Ladies and gentlemen and that’s why Luke’s in this. He says it’s for the kids and the community. Bullshlt. It ain’t for the kids. He’s shopping the best kids to the highest bidders. Its strictly for the money. It’s for his cut. He ain't selling any records. This is how he makes his money. This is his family business now. Selling high school football players. He’s a glorified street agent.
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LOL...You know this how?. Luke didnt JUST START..doing this. He's been doing this since early 90's. He's helping kids that dont even go to div 2 schools. Selling high school players??. lmao..which one's. How much did he sell Artie Burns to us for?.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Let me me make it real simple for some of you idiots.

Puke is a street agent shopping high school football players to the highest bidders to get his cut.

It’s not about the community or “helping kids”. It’s about getting his cut.
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What was his cut for Artie Burns?..Joe Yearby?..Mike Smith?? asking for a friend. I aint riding with Luke on the trolling he does to um fans..and the stupid sh*t he says. But street agent bs..makes no sense. Considering he doesnt have that level of kids to...SELL. Street agents are usually in the 7 on 7 game..because its a non stop group of ranked kids..that you get to parade around in the off season for "unofficial visits" paid for by the COLLEGES. Street agents are seldom just based out of a high school, they usually have some extra entity associated with the high school. Luke was coaching at Miami Jackson and i believe Miami Edison now, those schools aint producing 3 star level recruits any more. Those schools best kids are going to FAU and FIU who arent PAYING for sh*t.

Luke's wife is an agent i believe now though, so maybe thats where the belief comes from. But Luke didnt just start doing this as of recent. He started the league when i was a kid, and helped kids that you dont know because...well you dont know or dont care unless its a prospect. So are there going to be post on the board about Craig from the projects who was able to make it to college and is now a teacher in Broward County that made it from playing ball in Liberty City then high school..which got him an athletic scholarship to a div 2 school?.
 
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