Joe Yearby

[OriginalGatorHater]

So let me get this straight. Yearby bails on us and basically quits the team when we sure could have used him. Makes an absurd decision. Was probably a cancer in the lockerroom toward the end.

And he expects to come back here and go to a $60K per year school for free after his idiotic decision blows up in his face? Is that what I'm hearing? And people feel like he should be able to do that?

How the **** do you know he was a cancer in the locker room?

 

[U Know]

Hey Pete...would love to hear a podcast with guys like Yearby, Streeter, etc... and hear what went into their decision to declare. Also, do they have any regrets, and what would they tell a current player who finds themself in a similar situation.

 

[BigDikCane]

To be honest I think he left early b/c he seen Cook leave. I think he was jealous seeing all the love Cook was getting plus Walton was the starter. Silly mistake to leave early.

I recall all the talk here when Cook signed with FSU about how Yearby was the better back. Or, at least of equal quality. Maybe Joe still believed that. This board could be to blame.

I remember that.. I also remember Cook not wanting to play with Yearby in college. Remember the recruiting games they were playing. Cook waited for Yearby to flip from FSU and sign with Miami before he flipped from UF to FSU.

Recruitments of Dalvin Cook, Joseph Yearby add intrigue to FSU-Miami - ACC Blog- ESPN

 

[hotshot]

Hey Pete...would love to hear a podcast with guys like Yearby, Streeter, etc... and hear what went into their decision to declare. Also, do they have any regrets, and what would they tell a current player who finds themself in a similar situation.

Would definitely be interesting but think **** would freeze over before you hear a podcast like that. Maybe a writer sitting down with them could get a decent article or column out of it.

 

[MIATL]

I’m ok with you disagreeing.

But word around the program is that Richt told Rosier he would never play for him. Instead of pouting and going away, he stayed and earned his spot. Irvin, Jr. was in the doghouse. Stayed, earned his spot. And played when Herdon was hurt.

Linder ran for the hills when he lost his spot. Odogwu, too.

Some guys stick it out, others search for an easy exit. Yearby thought going pro early was an easier path than staying another year. No other explanation makes any sense ... Even using your logic of staying being his 3rd best option. Even if it wasn’t.

On Walton ... Read my post with some nuance. I didn’t say he will ONlY be drafted for special teams. I’m saying his ability to b a special teams ace will be the reason he can run a 4.7 and still get drafted. The tape says he makes tackles. The tape says he makes blocks and gets off blocks. NFL teams need those guys. It’s why New England drafted a guy who played more rugby than football at Ohio State.

You’re already on record suggesting there is no difference between Walton and Yearby as a running back. ****, you don’t even think Walton is the faster back. You’d think you’d actually agree with me, to give yourself an out when Walton gets drafted after running a 4.65 at the combine. Lol

So let me get this straight. Yearby bails on us and basically quits the team when we sure could have used him. Makes an absurd decision. Was probably a cancer in the lockerroom toward the end.

And he expects to come back here and go to a $60K per year school for free after his idiotic decision blows up in his face? Is that what I'm hearing? And people feel like he should be able to do that?

In Yearby's defense - Richt was the guy telling him to come back to Miami, but Richt was also the guy who demoted him from starter in 2015 to 3rd string by the end of 2016. Probably made for an awkward conversation on both sides.

When Yearby declared - Gus hadn't said he was transferring, McFarland was a "lock" to Miami, and Burns was also coming in. That's a crowded backfield, and I'm sure Yearby already felt he had been shafted by the 3rd string demotion.

I don't think rolling the dice on the draft was a bad decision given the situation Yearby was in.

Now - if Yearby knew Gus was transferring, McFarland wasn't coming, and Burns & Walton would get hurt & be out for the season - then I'm sure he would've stayed. But there was no way to know that at the time of his decision.

Yearby left because he thought he was every bit the back Dalvin Cook was, but just wasn't getting used properly by Miami. Cook left after 3 years, so Yearby felt he could, too.

He's a young guy, and thought he was more talented than he is. And he didn't have enough people in his life, that he respected, to be real with him.

No doubt, Richt wasn't the best guy to have the conversation with him. But Richt wasn't wrong.

And as I've argued forever, Yearby could have put a ton of special teams work on tape for NFL scouts this season. But he thought he was a fetaure back, and special teams was beneath him.

Special teams is going to get Walton drafted, and will keep him in the league.

I respectfully disagree.

I don't think Yearby thought he wasn't being used properly, it's that he stopped being used at all. So why would he come back to a coach that wasn't giving him any carries?

And I don't think any RB is getting drafted because they play Special Teams, unless it's because they're a return specialist. I'll be impressed if you can name one.

RB's like Yearby & Walton's draft stock is largely dependent on how well they test athletically. Yearby ran a 4.7 at his Pro Day. If Walton runs the same, there's no amount of Special Teams tape that would make a difference for either of them.

 

[Texxcane]

Not saying how they should do it one way or the other because I don't know all the details but your theory is backwards. If they want to show how leaving early could blow up in your face wouldn't making him pay if he re-enrolls do that? I mean if they just let him come back what kind of punishment/lesson does it teach them for leaving before they are ready?

That's right...punish the slave that ran away. Teach him a lesson so the others don't try to escape! We own them

Ridiculous comparison. Nobodies forced anybody to do anything. Football player compensation is a different issue. But using the slaver analogy? That’s just dumb and insulting, especially to actual slaves, both historically and currently in other parts of the world.

Whatever, man. I made the analogy because guys are talking as if Miami owns these players as if they are slaves or chattel (e.g., teach him lesson for running away so others wont do it, etc). GTFOH!

Give these dudes lifetime scholarships. Bottom line. Kentucky does it, and Miami can do it.

Why punish the kid by limiting his education options after he's already helped bring in 10's of millions of dollars? Miami claims to be about service giving back to the S. Florida community, so show and prove. You uplift the community by educating this former student athlete, because he may in turn give back and help someone else; it's a feedback loop

And I’m telling you Miami has a similar policy.

But it requires certain things from the student which apparently he is unwilling to complete,

Plenty of players have come back and gotten their degrees.

My guess is that Yearby was not in good academic standing when he left and somehow that’s limiting him.

But neither you nor I know the circumstances, so why do you automatically take the side of someone who has shown to make every wrong decision so far, when UM is known for providing the education at no cost for athletes that return?

Clearly, there’s a lot more to this story so don’t jump to conclusions.

best post in the thread, and i bet pretty spot on

 

[Gatorhater]

One thing I'd hoped with Richt is that he would be a father figure type who kids could trust and help prevent them from making stupid decisions. Doesn't look like that has materialized, at all. These kids are incredibly naive and we better get it figured out. We aren't losing out on kids to the NFL, we're losing out on kids to practice squads and forced retirement from the sport.

Do you have children?

Can you explain to me what Richt could have done differently, and what you are aware of he didn’t do?

You do realize he has around 80 children to “father” don’t you? On top of running a major P5 football program, fundraising, managing his assistants, meeting with boosters, fulfilling his administrative duties, recruiting, etc.?

What more could he have done to prevent Yearby from making his litany of stupid decisions? Been there before he inserted his ***** to personally place a condom on him? Held his hand and made sure he made it to all his classes.

Tell me specifically what he could have done to better fulfill his “father” role.

I have four kids. All of them got 4 year degrees and one his Phd. All are smart and never had serious problems. Yet each and everyone of them screwed up large despite my best efforts and advise. Kids are humans and humans get stupid sometimes. All these kids are Canes and Canes are family. We should always be cheering for them. This is especially true of our players; they have long history of return and support for our program. We have the finest young men of all the schools

 

[Cane Dynasty]

Yearbly is a fvckin dumb ***.

Even with a degree he's gonna do some stupid schit to fvck his life up.

 

[UMFarArcher]

Lots of UM players break the first rule of boulschitting: Never start believing your own boulschitt.

They may THINK they're great and NFL ready - but that seems to have nothing to do with what THEY think.

So. They ***** up - make bad decisions - and UM is supposed to pick up the tab?

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Yearbly is a fvckin dumb ***.

Even with a degree he's gonna do some stupid schit to fvck his life up.

You’re jumping the gun.

Let’s assume whatever hurdles are cleared and he gets a clear passage. What do you see happening? Hey, I hope to God he gets his degree, but I have an idea of what’s going to happen.

 

[bshaw28]

I’m ok with you disagreeing.

But word around the program is that Richt told Rosier he would never play for him. Instead of pouting and going away, he stayed and earned his spot. Irvin, Jr. was in the doghouse. Stayed, earned his spot. And played when Herdon was hurt.

Linder ran for the hills when he lost his spot. Odogwu, too.

Some guys stick it out, others search for an easy exit. Yearby thought going pro early was an easier path than staying another year. No other explanation makes any sense ... Even using your logic of staying being his 3rd best option. Even if it wasn’t.

On Walton ... Read my post with some nuance. I didn’t say he will ONlY be drafted for special teams. I’m saying his ability to b a special teams ace will be the reason he can run a 4.7 and still get drafted. The tape says he makes tackles. The tape says he makes blocks and gets off blocks. NFL teams need those guys. It’s why New England drafted a guy who played more rugby than football at Ohio State.

You’re already on record suggesting there is no difference between Walton and Yearby as a running back. ****, you don’t even think Walton is the faster back. You’d think you’d actually agree with me, to give yourself an out when Walton gets drafted after running a 4.65 at the combine. Lol

If Walton runs a 4.65, where do you think he gets drafted? What round? What do you expect Walton to run, and where do you expect him to get drafted?

I'm on record as saying I personally prefer Yearby to Walton, but I think they're very similar talents levels. I have no problem if you think Walton is better, but there's very little separation between the 2 either way. Both are solid college RB's, but neither are NFL RB's. Mainly because neither have the size or athleticism.

If Yearby runs a 4.73 and Walton runs a 4.65, the takeaway shouldn't be Walton is faster. The takeaway should be they're both really slow. Yearby and Walton both didn't test well athletically coming out of HS. They were similar, but Yearby tested better (I can post the stats if you don't believe me).

Your example of Nate Ebner proves my point. Ebner ran a 4.53, had a 39" vertical, broad jumped 10-8, and had a 6.59 3 cone drill. He was a SICK athlete. You can turn a great athlete into a great special teams player. You can't turn Walton into a great athlete. There s a reason why Homer has 8 solo ST tackles to Walton's 4, and it's because he's another level athletically.

If Walton returns kicks and is awful at it, like he was, that doesn't help his draft stock for just doing it. Same with ST coverage. 1 big hit vs. WVU doesn't make him a special teams "ace".

As for Yearby not wanting to stick it out, I'm sure he felt he outplaying Walton when he got demoted to 3rd string, which is a valid argument (I've got stats for that too if you don't believe me).

I'm sure Yearby was salty he was behind Walton, felt he couldn't earn more PT no matter what, and that rubbed Richt wrong. Richt didn't care because he had enough RB's on the roster and coming in (so he thought at the time). He wasn't running away or taking the easy route - he wasn't getting a fair shake. Walton is Richt's dude, and Richt was sticking with Walton no matter what. That was made clear both last year and this year.

 

[stormbrewing]

Look man, if your everyday fan can see you shouldn’t jump for the money and you do it anyway... don’t think that you have nothing to lose by taking that jump... live and learn like the rest of us..

 

[gogeta4]

So let me get this straight. Yearby bails on us and basically quits the team when we sure could have used him. Makes an absurd decision. Was probably a cancer in the lockerroom toward the end.

And he expects to come back here and go to a $60K per year school for free after his idiotic decision blows up in his face? Is that what I'm hearing? And people feel like he should be able to do that?

In Yearby's defense - Richt was the guy telling him to come back to Miami, but Richt was also the guy who demoted him from starter in 2015 to 3rd string by the end of 2016. Probably made for an awkward conversation on both sides.

When Yearby declared - Gus hadn't said he was transferring, McFarland was a "lock" to Miami, and Burns was also coming in. That's a crowded backfield, and I'm sure Yearby already felt he had been shafted by the 3rd string demotion.

I don't think rolling the dice on the draft was a bad decision given the situation Yearby was in.

Now - if Yearby knew Gus was transferring, McFarland wasn't coming, and Burns & Walton would get hurt & be out for the season - then I'm sure he would've stayed. But there was no way to know that at the time of his decision.

Yearby left because he thought he was every bit the back Dalvin Cook was, but just wasn't getting used properly by Miami. Cook left after 3 years, so Yearby felt he could, too.

He's a young guy, and thought he was more talented than he is. And he didn't have enough people in his life, that he respected, to be real with him.

No doubt, Richt wasn't the best guy to have the conversation with him. But Richt wasn't wrong.

And as I've argued forever, Yearby could have put a ton of special teams work on tape for NFL scouts this season. But he thought he was a fetaure back, and special teams was beneath him.

Special teams is going to get Walton drafted, and will keep him in the league.

Yearby also has 2 kids. Probably weighed in more as well. To be honest he should have transferred to a school that could have assured him alot of carries...but he likely wouldnt be living with his two young kids.

I also dont htink yearby was scared to compete..i think him and Thomas Brown likely wasnt on good terms...Coming back to um might have been his third option..he was losing carries to Gus Edwards for god sakes.

 

[JgDaCane]

Joe Dirt

 

[StoneWallLoungeCane]

I’m ok with you disagreeing.

But word around the program is that Richt told Rosier he would never play for him. Instead of pouting and going away, he stayed and earned his spot. Irvin, Jr. was in the doghouse. Stayed, earned his spot. And played when Herdon was hurt.

Linder ran for the hills when he lost his spot. Odogwu, too.

Some guys stick it out, others search for an easy exit. Yearby thought going pro early was an easier path than staying another year. No other explanation makes any sense ... Even using your logic of staying being his 3rd best option. Even if it wasn’t.

On Walton ... Read my post with some nuance. I didn’t say he will ONlY be drafted for special teams. I’m saying his ability to b a special teams ace will be the reason he can run a 4.7 and still get drafted. The tape says he makes tackles. The tape says he makes blocks and gets off blocks. NFL teams need those guys. It’s why New England drafted a guy who played more rugby than football at Ohio State.

You’re already on record suggesting there is no difference between Walton and Yearby as a running back. ****, you don’t even think Walton is the faster back. You’d think you’d actually agree with me, to give yourself an out when Walton gets drafted after running a 4.65 at the combine. Lol

If Walton runs a 4.65, where do you think he gets drafted? What round? What do you expect Walton to run, and where do you expect him to get drafted?

I'm on record as saying I personally prefer Yearby to Walton, but I think they're very similar talents levels. I have no problem if you think Walton is better, but there's very little separation between the 2 either way. Both are solid college RB's, but neither are NFL RB's. Mainly because neither have the size or athleticism.

If Yearby runs a 4.73 and Walton runs a 4.65, the takeaway shouldn't be Walton is faster. The takeaway should be they're both really slow. Yearby and Walton both didn't test well athletically coming out of HS. They were similar, but Yearby tested better (I can post the stats if you don't believe me).

Your example of Nate Ebner proves my point. Ebner ran a 4.53, had a 39" vertical, broad jumped 10-8, and had a 6.59 3 cone drill. He was a SICK athlete. You can turn a great athlete into a great special teams player. You can't turn Walton into a great athlete. There s a reason why Homer has 8 solo ST tackles to Walton's 4, and it's because he's another level athletically.

If Walton returns kicks and is awful at it, like he was, that doesn't help his draft stock for just doing it. Same with ST coverage. 1 big hit vs. WVU doesn't make him a special teams "ace".

As for Yearby not wanting to stick it out, I'm sure he felt he outplaying Walton when he got demoted to 3rd string, which is a valid argument (I've got stats for that too if you don't believe me).

I'm sure Yearby was salty he was behind Walton, felt he couldn't earn more PT no matter what, and that rubbed Richt wrong. Richt didn't care because he had enough RB's on the roster and coming in (so he thought at the time). He wasn't running away or taking the easy route - he wasn't getting a fair shake. Walton is Richt's dude, and Richt was sticking with Walton no matter what. That was made clear both last year and this year.

Richt didn’t care because Walton is fifteen times the running back that Yearby is. Walton is going to get drafted and make an NFL team. Yearby never had a realistic chance of sniffing a 53 man roster. We will bump this is in April and September. To be clear though, I hope things work out for Yearby. I wish theyd let him finish his degree

 

[Rellyrell]

I’m still rooting for Joe. At least CFL. Hate he left, dumb decision...but I’m still rooting for him.

 

[Dwinstitles]

To be honest I think he left early b/c he seen Cook leave. I think he was jealous seeing all the love Cook was getting plus Walton was the starter. Silly mistake to leave early.

I recall all the talk here when Cook signed with FSU about how Yearby was the better back. Or, at least of equal quality. Maybe Joe still believed that. This board could be to blame.

I remember that.. I also remember Cook not wanting to play with Yearby in college. Remember the recruiting games they were playing. Cook waited for Yearby to flip from FSU and sign with Miami before he flipped from UF to FSU.

Recruitments of Dalvin Cook, Joseph Yearby add intrigue to FSU-Miami - ACC Blog- ESPN

Most on this board r retarded the real heads knew cook was savage and yearby was slow. Jimbo kept playing golden on the trail. Joe was too slow way to slow if he stayed he would not have hotten burn Homer is a better back

 

[BoxingRobes]

These are grown *** men. Its no ones responsibility to give them adequate advice.

From what the media has said, Richt gave them sound, realistic advice.

If they left anyway, thats on them.

The system at Miami is screwed up, man. The university of Kentucky offers lifetime scholarships to their student athletes, in the event they leave early. It's truly ridiculous how Miami and many of these schools exploit these athletes. Kentucky, at least, is making the best of a bad and exploitative system. They're at least "somewhat" putting the needs of the athlete first.

Former UK football star Oliver White back to earn college degree | Lexington Herald Leader

I'm not even disagreeing with you, good brother. Miami does, for the most part already have that.

I've got no problem with letting the dude finish out his degree at the school. However, we aren't Kentucky, as a University, academically. I don't know Yearby's academic standing, but at Miami, there needs to be a modicum of academic integrity here. If he ***ked off the last semester, knowing he was bouncing, and/or has a poor GPA or didn't show up to class, then I also agree that now he's got to pay.

Letting them finish their degree is important with keeping up alumni relations and making sure you don't leave any players out in the cold. But, at the same time, academically, people need to be held accountable.

But, at the end of the day, these are grown men, making grown men decisions. If they didn't do their homework before leaving, that is their fault. It seems to be, guys like RJM and Norton got adequate information, they just disregarded most of it.

 

[Dwinstitles]

So let me get this straight. Yearby bails on us and basically quits the team when we sure could have used him. Makes an absurd decision. Was probably a cancer in the lockerroom toward the end.

And he expects to come back here and go to a $60K per year school for free after his idiotic decision blows up in his face? Is that what I'm hearing? And people feel like he should be able to do that?

How the **** do you know he was a cancer in the locker room?

Key word "probably"

 

[UMAlum21]

I feel for Yearby, he clearly made the decision based on immediate need rather than taking a long-term, logical look at his future. It's sad but he left the team high and dry and made a terrible career choice. I'd hope UM could come to some agreement with him but I also understand the hesitancy to do so, as the school needs to protect it's own interests and can't promote poor decision making like Yearby's to continue into the future. Maybe UM could "nudge" some donors to help cover his remaining tuition or something to that nature.