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Joe Yearby

I think the NFL should make kids only draft eligible after receiving their degree. If they can obtain a degree in three years then fine but at least some, like Yearby, who don't make it can go on to start a career instead of being in limbo.
 
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To me this sounds like Yearby probably wanted free food, housing and tutors,too. I don’t believe this is just over tuition.
 
You forfeit your scholly when you declare. Make choices and live with them. Feel bad for joe, but he made his bed.
 
The Franchise said:
So let me get this straight. Yearby bails on us and basically quits the team when we sure could have used him. Makes an absurd decision. Was probably a cancer in the lockerroom toward the end.

And he expects to come back here and go to a $60K per year school for free after his idiotic decision blows up in his face? Is that what I'm hearing? And people feel like he should be able to do that?
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Yes.

The university has made more off Yearby, than what Yearby will cost the university to get his degree. Dosen't matter the advertised tuition costs, the actual real costs to the university, (won't be getting room and board) for him to attend classes would be negligible. The costs to repair the negative pr, priceless.

The "noble cause" of an institute of higher learning is to make people better human beings. And one of the ways is leading by example. One of the "selling points" of UM is the education, let Yearby get his and maybe he'll learn and make better decisions in the future.
 
Tad Footeball said:
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
The Franchise said:
So let me get this straight. Yearby bails on us and basically quits the team when we sure could have used him. Makes an absurd decision. Was probably a cancer in the lockerroom toward the end.

And he expects to come back here and go to a $60K per year school for free after his idiotic decision blows up in his face? Is that what I'm hearing? And people feel like he should be able to do that?
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The thing is, we don’t have all the information.

I’m pretty sure any player is able to return to continue their education gratis, based on meeting certain conditions.

Does Yearby strike you as someone who would keep up with whatever requirements are necessary? I have a feeling he was barely hanging on academically when he left, but I could be wrong. Either way, I know UM has done it for a bunch of players, all we have now is a 4-word blurb from Barry Jackson in the Herald.
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I normally respect Jackson's nuggets about the program but this was pretty irresponsible to put out there without doing any digging for the actual details. OR he's friendly with Yearby and is trying to apply public pressure to Miami to let him back in for free even if the kid may not be meeting some possible requirements to qualify for the continued freebie education.

My guess is Jackson is just regurgitating what Yearby (or his family) told him but he really should've provided more background.
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I agree, this is exactly the way I interpreted it
 
Let me get this straight.

A guy gets a ride for an education - decides to leave - and THEN you want the University to let him come back and finish on their dime?

GTFOH.
 
QuatroCane said:
wspcane said:
the storm said:
LOL.

wspcane said:
I thought Miami offered a life-long scholarship if guys decided to leave early.
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Don't know why you are laughing. I am almost positive that is the case.
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I think you're mistaken, if that were the case they would have to offer it to every athlete in every sport, which I sincerely doubt.
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Disagree with that. For one, the only sports where this may come into play are football, basketball, and baseball. Our basketball team does not have too many guys that are leaving early for the NBA, but even if it is one every couple of years, that is not too much. Aside from not too many guys leaving early, baseball scholarships are typically 1/2 scholarships. So outside of football, the exposure and cost is not too high.

Title IX is not coming into play here since they can include that language across the board to women's sports and non-revenue generating sports with just about no risk or cost to the school.
 
The Franchise said:
So let me get this straight. Yearby bails on us and basically quits the team when we sure could have used him. Makes an absurd decision. Was probably a cancer in the lockerroom toward the end.

And he expects to come back here and go to a $60K per year school for free after his idiotic decision blows up in his face? Is that what I'm hearing? And people feel like he should be able to do that?
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In Yearby's defense - Richt was the guy telling him to come back to Miami, but Richt was also the guy who demoted him from starter in 2015 to 3rd string by the end of 2016. Probably made for an awkward conversation on both sides.

When Yearby declared - Gus hadn't said he was transferring, McFarland was a "lock" to Miami, and Burns was also coming in. That's a crowded backfield, and I'm sure Yearby already felt he had been shafted by the 3rd string demotion.

I don't think rolling the dice on the draft was a bad decision given the situation Yearby was in.

Now - if Yearby knew Gus was transferring, McFarland wasn't coming, and Burns & Walton would get hurt & be out for the season - then I'm sure he would've stayed. But there was no way to know that at the time of his decision.
 
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supersaiyanshel said:
Tad Footeball said:
Would also be interesting to know what his academic standing was upon withdrawing from school too. If this kid let everything go to **** as he fantasized about NFL $ then they also might be less inclined to immediately give him a $60000 gift. At least immediately.

Rick is big on the lifetime role the program has in these kid's lives but if you're cynical then you'd still think he wouldn't take a public relations hit by "abandoning" a former higher profile player.
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This is my thinking as well. I'm wondering what Yearby's academic situation was before he declared or if was ******** around which is why they put their foot down.

Regardless, I say let the kid re-enroll, and if he flunks out this time, then he's on his own. This is a bad look for UM no matter how you slice it. It's one of those situations where even if their actions are justified, they'll come out looking bad.
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What do other schools do?
 
BigDikCane said:
To be honest I think he left early b/c he seen Cook leave. I think he was jealous seeing all the love Cook was getting plus Walton was the starter. Silly mistake to leave early.
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I recall all the talk here when Cook signed with FSU about how Yearby was the better back. Or, at least of equal quality. Maybe Joe still believed that. This board could be to blame.
 
bshaw28 said:
The Franchise said:
So let me get this straight. Yearby bails on us and basically quits the team when we sure could have used him. Makes an absurd decision. Was probably a cancer in the lockerroom toward the end.

And he expects to come back here and go to a $60K per year school for free after his idiotic decision blows up in his face? Is that what I'm hearing? And people feel like he should be able to do that?
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In Yearby's defense - Richt was the guy telling him to come back to Miami, but Richt was also the guy who demoted him from starter in 2015 to 3rd string by the end of 2016. Probably made for an awkward conversation on both sides.

When Yearby declared - Gus hadn't said he was transferring, McFarland was a "lock" to Miami, and Burns was also coming in. That's a crowded backfield, and I'm sure Yearby already felt he had been shafted by the 3rd string demotion.

I don't think rolling the dice on the draft was a bad decision given the situation Yearby was in.

Now - if Yearby knew Gus was transferring, McFarland wasn't coming, and Burns & Walton would get hurt & be out for the season - then I'm sure he would've stayed. But there was no way to know that at the time of his decision.
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Yearby left because he thought he was every bit the back Dalvin Cook was, but just wasn't getting used properly by Miami. Cook left after 3 years, so Yearby felt he could, too.

He's a young guy, and thought he was more talented than he is. And he didn't have enough people in his life, that he respected, to be real with him.

No doubt, Richt wasn't the best guy to have the conversation with him. But Richt wasn't wrong.

And as I've argued forever, Yearby could have put a ton of special teams work on tape for NFL scouts this season. But he thought he was a fetaure back, and special teams was beneath him.

Special teams is going to get Walton drafted, and will keep him in the league.
 
bshaw28 said:
The Franchise said:
So let me get this straight. Yearby bails on us and basically quits the team when we sure could have used him. Makes an absurd decision. Was probably a cancer in the lockerroom toward the end.

And he expects to come back here and go to a $60K per year school for free after his idiotic decision blows up in his face? Is that what I'm hearing? And people feel like he should be able to do that?
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In Yearby's defense - Richt was the guy telling him to come back to Miami, but Richt was also the guy who demoted him from starter in 2015 to 3rd string by the end of 2016. Probably made for an awkward conversation on both sides.

When Yearby declared - Gus hadn't said he was transferring, McFarland was a "lock" to Miami, and Burns was also coming in. That's a crowded backfield, and I'm sure Yearby already felt he had been shafted by the 3rd string demotion.

I don't think rolling the dice on the draft was a bad decision given the situation Yearby was in.

Now - if Yearby knew Gus was transferring, McFarland wasn't coming, and Burns & Walton would get hurt & be out for the season - then I'm sure he would've stayed. But there was no way to know that at the time of his decision.
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Scared to compete at Miami, bolts for the NFL. Makes sense.
 
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miamicanephins said:
The Franchise said:
So let me get this straight. Yearby bails on us and basically quits the team when we sure could have used him. Makes an absurd decision. Was probably a cancer in the lockerroom toward the end.

And he expects to come back here and go to a $60K per year school for free after his idiotic decision blows up in his face? Is that what I'm hearing? And people feel like he should be able to do that?
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Yes.

The university has made more off Yearby, than what Yearby will cost the university to get his degree. Dosen't matter the advertised tuition costs, the actual real costs to the university, (won't be getting room and board) for him to attend classes would be negligible. The costs to repair the negative pr, priceless.

The "noble cause" of an institute of higher learning is to make people better human beings. And one of the ways is leading by example. One of the "selling points" of UM is the education, let Yearby get his and maybe he'll learn and make better decisions in the future.
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Lol, nobody is going to bat an eye at this besides the "you owe me something" crowd. They're not the ones filling UM coffers.
 
MIATL said:
bshaw28 said:
The Franchise said:
So let me get this straight. Yearby bails on us and basically quits the team when we sure could have used him. Makes an absurd decision. Was probably a cancer in the lockerroom toward the end.

And he expects to come back here and go to a $60K per year school for free after his idiotic decision blows up in his face? Is that what I'm hearing? And people feel like he should be able to do that?
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In Yearby's defense - Richt was the guy telling him to come back to Miami, but Richt was also the guy who demoted him from starter in 2015 to 3rd string by the end of 2016. Probably made for an awkward conversation on both sides.

When Yearby declared - Gus hadn't said he was transferring, McFarland was a "lock" to Miami, and Burns was also coming in. That's a crowded backfield, and I'm sure Yearby already felt he had been shafted by the 3rd string demotion.

I don't think rolling the dice on the draft was a bad decision given the situation Yearby was in.

Now - if Yearby knew Gus was transferring, McFarland wasn't coming, and Burns & Walton would get hurt & be out for the season - then I'm sure he would've stayed. But there was no way to know that at the time of his decision.
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Yearby left because he thought he was every bit the back Dalvin Cook was, but just wasn't getting used properly by Miami. Cook left after 3 years, so Yearby felt he could, too.

He's a young guy, and thought he was more talented than he is. And he didn't have enough people in his life, that he respected, to be real with him.

No doubt, Richt wasn't the best guy to have the conversation with him. But Richt wasn't wrong.

And as I've argued forever, Yearby could have put a ton of special teams work on tape for NFL scouts this season. But he thought he was a fetaure back, and special teams was beneath him.

Special teams is going to get Walton drafted, and will keep him in the league.
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I respectfully disagree.

I don't think Yearby thought he wasn't being used properly, it's that he stopped being used at all. So why would he come back to a coach that wasn't giving him any carries?

And I don't think any RB is getting drafted because they play Special Teams, unless it's because they're a return specialist. I'll be impressed if you can name one.

RB's like Yearby & Walton's draft stock is largely dependent on how well they test athletically. Yearby ran a 4.7 at his Pro Day. If Walton runs the same, there's no amount of Special Teams tape that would make a difference for either of them.
 
If Yearby left partly because he was worried about not beating out Gus for the starting position, why the **** did he think he would make an NFL roster? All this would take is common sense....
 
Lets be real here Richt is the coach now but these players that are leaving are still Goldenized. Next year will be the first draft eligible class Richt would have recruited and they sure would make smarter decisions. I look at players like Jaquan and Michael Jackson to know some players are totally in and it will pay off in the long run. I expect different players to step up on the DL even though its mad disappointing.

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