Joe Yearby

[kendallcanes]

That is retail price. I also don't know how many students actually pay full price.

Now the actual cost to the University is significantly less factoring in scale (adding an extra student to lecture/class room, actual cost of food, etc.), but your point is well made.

 

[Cajuncane]

I thought the agreement to finish your education after leaving was IF you played out your entire 4 eligibility.Not if you foolishly decided to listen to some shister that you let convince you that you were 3-4 rounds better than the professional people that actually DID have your best intentions in mind had told you.

Just what I had remembered....well not about the you being stupid part.That part was on you.

 

[miamicanephins]

So let me get this straight. Yearby bails on us and basically quits the team when we sure could have used him. Makes an absurd decision. Was probably a cancer in the lockerroom toward the end.

And he expects to come back here and go to a $60K per year school for free after his idiotic decision blows up in his face? Is that what I'm hearing? And people feel like he should be able to do that?

Yes.

The university has made more off Yearby, than what Yearby will cost the university to get his degree. Dosen't matter the advertised tuition costs, the actual real costs to the university, (won't be getting room and board) for him to attend classes would be negligible. The costs to repair the negative pr, priceless.

The "noble cause" of an institute of higher learning is to make people better human beings. And one of the ways is leading by example. One of the "selling points" of UM is the education, let Yearby get his and maybe he'll learn and make better decisions in the future.

What did the university make off Yearby exactly? How do you quantify that they made more money from him than the money they spent on him? He was here for 3 years living and eating for free and going to school for free. That's probably $300K that the university spent on him.

How did they make more than that off a backup RB? The incredible Joe Yearby merchandising machine? LOL.

LOL. Stop with the straw man argument. And if you actually believe Yearby cost the university 300k, I've got some cryptocurrency shares I'd like to sell to you.

 

[TriStarCane]

Friend of the show Malki Kawa convinced Norton he would be drafted higher than his advisory grade, which then subsequently led to McIntosh declaring for the draft. **** that guy. Please never bring him back on the podcast or to this site. Pete, if you're a runner for this guy...

There are a lot of scummy hanger ons to kids at UM. It’s sad but it’s a big problem in Miami

Defintely right, but not only in Miami....LA quickly comes to mind as well

I wonder if any other program's main fan and recruiting websites let those guys come on and pump them up and give them a platform like ours does...

 

[MIATL]

It amazes me how so many of you can't seem to find out why/how a school would entertain the idea of paying for a persons education after they leave for the chance to make a real check from their labor.

Schools come to your house and beg you and your family for an opportunity to come and risk your life and limb on that football field so they can potentially make millions off of your talent in return giving you a free education that isn't worth as much as its inflated.

How many colleges are going bankrupt? I mean, is it that bad to let a guy finish his education for free??

Exactly.

I’m always amazed at how much “fans” of certain sports hate the athletes who play those sports so much. Jealousy is a terrible thing.

Who hates the athletes?!?!?

I'm just saying the degree has value.

Selecting a college that can balance NFL prospects and a meaningful degree should be the goal of every student-athlete. And Miami is uniquely positioned to provide that. And the kids selecting Miami should understand that, and treat the degree accordingly, IMO.

 

[Tetragrammaton Cane]

It amazes me how so many of you can't seem to find out why/how a school would entertain the idea of paying for a persons education after they leave for the chance to make a real check from their labor.

Schools come to your house and beg you and your family for an opportunity to come and risk your life and limb on that football field so they can potentially make millions off of your talent in return giving you a free education that isn't worth as much as its inflated.

How many colleges are going bankrupt? I mean, is it that bad to let a guy finish his education for free??

Exactly.

I’m always amazed at how much “fans” of certain sports hate the athletes who play those sports so much. Jealousy is a terrible thing.

Who hates the athletes?!?!?

I'm just saying the degree has value.

Selecting a college that can balance NFL prospects and a meaningful degree should be the goal of every student-athlete. And Miami is uniquely positioned to provide that. And the kids selecting Miami should understand that, and treat the degree accordingly, IMO.

You won’t get me to argue against degrees having value. And I mentioned in my first post in this thread that the cause has more to do with an ambivalence/rejection of education than just being a dumb decision. Yearby could have made that same jump with degree in hand, after 3 years, and it would have still been a mistake because, factually, he’s not NFL material. That has nothing to do with Richt, or Golden or Shannon or any coach for that matter. He doesn’t have a degree because he may have never valued his education as much as he probably now realizes he should have.

But making a stupid decision really has nothing to do with IF Miami allows athletes who leave early to come back and complete their degree. Either Miami does or Miami doesn’t. That’s the reason for the article. I believe Miami does and there must be some reason why Yearby was told he would have to pay (clearly he didn’t understand that Miami must have some stipulations to “come back, anytime”). That’s it; at least from my end.

But when I read posters talking about “punishing” and “$60k” and “lucky” … what does that have to do with whether or not Miami pays for athletes to come back and complete their degree?

 

[CaneSince4Ever]

UM needs to come out the pocket and pay for this man to get His degree ASAP.

IDK what His value was, but I'm sure His efforts made it possible for already affluent kids to participate in sports like tennis, golf, & rowing...useless sports that don't bring in $h!t to the University.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

UM needs to come out the pocket and pay for this man to get His degree ASAP.

IDK what His value was, but I'm sure His efforts made it possible for already affluent kids to participate in sports like tennis, golf, & rowing...useless sports that don't bring in $h!t to the University.

Presumptuous of you to think that kids that participate in sports other than the big three at UM are affluent. Many aren’t, and are there on academic scholarships as well as incurring large amounts of student debt.

Maybe next time, thing things through a little more.

 

[77cane]

These are grown *** men. Its no ones responsibility to give them adequate advice.

From what the media has said, Richt gave them sound, realistic advice.

If they left anyway, thats on them.

The system at Miami is screwed up, man. The university of Kentucky offers lifetime scholarships to their student athletes, in the event they leave early. It's truly ridiculous how Miami and many of these schools exploit these athletes. Kentucky, at least, is making the best of a bad and exploitative system. They're at least "somewhat" putting the needs of the athlete first.

Former UK football star Oliver White back to earn college degree | Lexington Herald Leader

One is a private institution, the other is supported by tax payer funds. Big difference!

 

[CaneSince4Ever]

Many aren’t, and are there on academic scholarships as well as incurring large amounts of student debt.

And even if you believe this bull$h!t, you still have to pay for equipment, travel, physical therapy, and insurance for those sports.

The fact He wants to come back to school is all that matters, and UM should foot the bill for His education like it does for freeloading sports like golf, tennis, rowing, swimming, diving, XC, etc..

 

[We'retheBoss]

Maybe he can get a teaching grant from the school and counsel players who want to declare early and have no business doing so. Meetings can be held in the "Streeter Auditorium for kids who don't think good"

 

[Dingaan1828]

Maybe he can get a teaching grant from the school and counsel players who want to declare early and have no business doing so. Meetings can be held in the "Streeter Auditorium for kids who don't think good"

Are you assuming he learned something from his poor decisions?

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Many aren’t, and are there on academic scholarships as well as incurring large amounts of student debt.

And even if you believe this bull$h!t, you still have to pay for equipment, travel, physical therapy, and insurance for those sports.

The fact He wants to come back to school is all that matters, and UM should foot the bill for His education like it does for freeloading sports like golf, tennis, rowing, swimming, diving, XC, etc..

LOL you clown. Not only do I believe this ”bullshlt” I know it to be a fact. Clearly, you didn’t attend the University, have probably never set foot on campus, and don’t know any of these athletes. So shut your ignorant mouth up. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

Nobody disputes that football revenues foot the bill for non-revenue sports, assclown.

Your characterization of kids that play other sports as affluent free loaders is typical of ignorant uneducated rabble like yourself, that don’t bother to think past their own shallow poorly informed opinions.

 

[bshaw28]

So let me get this straight. Yearby bails on us and basically quits the team when we sure could have used him. Makes an absurd decision. Was probably a cancer in the lockerroom toward the end.

And he expects to come back here and go to a $60K per year school for free after his idiotic decision blows up in his face? Is that what I'm hearing? And people feel like he should be able to do that?

In Yearby's defense - Richt was the guy telling him to come back to Miami, but Richt was also the guy who demoted him from starter in 2015 to 3rd string by the end of 2016. Probably made for an awkward conversation on both sides.

When Yearby declared - Gus hadn't said he was transferring, McFarland was a "lock" to Miami, and Burns was also coming in. That's a crowded backfield, and I'm sure Yearby already felt he had been shafted by the 3rd string demotion.

I don't think rolling the dice on the draft was a bad decision given the situation Yearby was in.

Now - if Yearby knew Gus was transferring, McFarland wasn't coming, and Burns & Walton would get hurt & be out for the season - then I'm sure he would've stayed. But there was no way to know that at the time of his decision.

That's no defense to this situation. Yearby was never guaranteed a starting job at UM. So what? No one is.

He was, however, guaranteed a free education and room and board if he stuck around for his senior season and opted to compete.

But he was competing, outperforming, and losing carries

2016 - First 7 games
Yearby - 73 att - 493 yds - 6.8 ypc - 6 TD
Walton - 112 att - 604 yds - 5.4 ypc - 8 TD

2016 - First 4 ACC games - GT/FSU/UNC/VT
Yearby - 38 att - 237 yds - 6.2 ypc - 2 TD. Had 8 runs of 10+ yds with runs of 27, 41 & 41 yds.
Walton - 64 att - 203 yds - 3.2 ypc - 1 TD. Had 2 runs of 10+ yds with a long run of 14 yds.

It was pretty clear Yearby was playing better than Walton at this point, but this is also when Yearby started losing playing time to Gus. It made no sense.

If Yearby thought he wasn't given a fair shot to "compete" to keep or regain his starting spot, and that Walton was going to be the starter no matter what - then I think he at least had a valid argument.

He was in a hard spot:

1) Return to Miami & get maybe 50-100 carries his Sr. year (at best), but possibly only 20-30 carries. He'd basically be giving up any hope of being drafted, but would get his diploma.
2) Go pro early and hope to be a late round pick. It wasn't like he had 0% of getting drafted. I'd say it was more like a 30% chance.
3) Transfer to get more playing time, hope to improve your draft stock, but be away from your 2 kids.

I'm not saying he made the correct choice. I'm just saying he was in a tough position and shouldn't be labeled a idiot, or a quitter, or or a guy who was scared of competition.

 

[QuattroCane]

Many aren’t, and are there on academic scholarships as well as incurring large amounts of student debt.

And even if you believe this bull$h!t, you still have to pay for equipment, travel, physical therapy, and insurance for those sports.

The fact He wants to come back to school is all that matters, and UM should foot the bill for His education like it does for freeloading sports like golf, tennis, rowing, swimming, diving, XC, etc..

Based on your postings you're the type of person that enables these kids to think they're owed something because they're good at a sport.

 

[AUcane]

Friend of the show Malki Kawa convinced Norton he would be drafted higher than his advisory grade, which then subsequently led to McIntosh declaring for the draft. **** that guy. Please never bring him back on the podcast or to this site. Pete, if you're a runner for this guy...

There are a lot of scummy hanger ons to kids at UM. It’s sad but it’s a big problem in Miami

Defintely right, but not only in Miami....LA quickly comes to mind as well

Spoke to a staff member a while back who had experience in recruiting all over the US. Was asked about LA vs Miami in terms of hanger-on street agent scumminess and he said Miami was way worse. TIFWIW.

 

[TheEye]

If they honestly intend for him to pay out of pocket, then they should offer him a work study position on the support staff.

 

[BoroCane83]

You get a year of education for a year of play. You shouldnt get a year of education for free for leaving early. If you want to come back to school you should pay for it with your NFL money...oh wait. You left before you should have and didnt get very much NFL money and bought your mom a house or whatever.

Oh well.

 

[grillincane]

The XFL is coming back, Yearby should definitely have a shot at making a team

 

[CaneSince4Ever]

Many aren’t, and are there on academic scholarships as well as incurring large amounts of student debt.

And even if you believe this bull$h!t, you still have to pay for equipment, travel, physical therapy, and insurance for those sports.

The fact He wants to come back to school is all that matters, and UM should foot the bill for His education like it does for freeloading sports like golf, tennis, rowing, swimming, diving, XC, etc..

Based on your postings you're the type of person that enables these kids to think they're owed something because they're good at a sport.

They are...especially since they were EEs, recruited for you when they were in HS, and never got into any trouble...yeah, the school should foot the bill if they want to complete their degree(s).

$h!t Mark Richt's poor decisions led to Him getting fired at UGA, and they're giving Him $4M a year!...but Yearby makes a poor decision and He gotta come outta pocket, go figure.