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Moonman said:
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So far so good in deaths but anyone with a brain knows that deaths lag cases by up to 3 weeks. We have to hope that the majority of these cases are in younger adults. So far in Florida, that it is the case.

Also I believe we are catching the virus earlier and isolating quicker than back in March when they sent sick people back into nursing homes in the Northeast.

Treatments have also expanded since that time early on. We have convalescent plasma that seems to be the best, we need more of these antibodies in storage. We have remdisvr, chloroquine and also the new allergy medicine they just discovered. I really don’t think we will see a major spike. Will it go up some, sure it’s possible. It won’t go to zero I know that much. It all comes down to people understanding the virus and making decisions based on data and facts, not emotions.

either way they decide this fall, we always have spring option worst case. We will have football this year.

Here’s a chart to back up what I’m saying. Without those early disastrous decisions by the Northeast, we would have only been in a pandemic Level for two months.

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BeastMode said:
So far so good in deaths but anyone with a brain knows that deaths lag cases by up to 3 weeks. We have to hope that the majority of these cases are in younger adults. So far in Florida, that it is the case.

Also I believe we are catching the virus earlier and isolating quicker than back in March when they sent sick people back into nursing homes in the Northeast.

Treatments have also expanded since that time early on. We have convalescent plasma that seems to be the best, we need more of these antibodies in storage. We have remdisvr, chloroquine and also the new allergy medicine they just discovered. I really don’t think we will see a major spike. Will it go up some, sure it’s possible. It won’t go to zero I know that much. It all comes down to people understanding the virus and making decisions based on data and facts, not emotions.

either way they decide this fall, we always have spring option worst case. We will have football this year.
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The average time from first symptoms to death is 18.5 days. Most people aren't getting tested until they start to feel symptoms and test results can take a few days. So by the time the positive test is confirmed you could have already had it for weeks. Deaths and "new cases" follow a parallel line until around May 5th. Then deaths begin to decline while cases flatten out. Every person I know who's contracted it has recovered and they say that the worst time is the first week after they start to feel sick. Here's my point. The argument that we should expect a spike in deaths soon is based on the idea that people are getting tested on day one of symptoms. Some people may wait a week to get tested, by that time they're already just a few days from ARDS, sepsis and ultimately death. We should've started to see an increase in deaths a couple of weeks ago. That didn't happen.
 
BeastMode said:
So far so good in deaths but anyone with a brain knows that deaths lag cases by up to 3 weeks. We have to hope that the majority of these cases are in younger adults. So far in Florida, that it is the case.

Also I believe we are catching the virus earlier and isolating quicker than back in March when they sent sick people back into nursing homes in the Northeast.

Treatments have also expanded since that time early on. We have convalescent plasma that seems to be the best, we need more of these antibodies in storage. We have remdisvr, chloroquine and also the new allergy medicine they just discovered. I really don’t think we will see a major spike. Will it go up some, sure it’s possible. It won’t go to zero I know that much. It all comes down to people understanding the virus and making decisions based on data and facts, not emotions.

either way they decide this fall, we always have spring option worst case. We will have football this year.

Here’s a chart to back up what I’m saying. Without those early disastrous decisions by the Northeast, we would have only been in a pandemic Level for two months.

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The rise in cases started on 6/8. Hospitalizations precede deaths and to this point almost a full month later we haven't seen an increase in either.

I charted Arizona also since they provide hospitalization totals and their data trends the same as ours.

Your post is about as spot on as I've seen here.

Here's Florida today.
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Here's another thing to keep an eye on. If young people are mainly catching it now, clearly it's not affecting them to the point of hospitalization and death to a significant degree. How long will it typically take them to spread it to their older relatives? 5 to 14 days?

I wonder if that spread from the young people to their older relatives will uptick the death/hospitalization rates. If not, then there's something going on with the bug weakening.
 
DMoney said:
If what you’re saying is true, they committed fraud instead of negligence. And they wonder why nobody trusts them.
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Fauci admitted to Congress he told a white lie about PPE/masks to protect the supply of PPE for front line workers.

Little ******* should be stoned to death.

Dr Scott Gottlieb is the only straight shooter.
 
The Franchise said:
Here's another thing to keep an eye on. If young people are mainly catching it now, clearly it's not affecting them to the point of hospitalization and death to a significant degree. How long will it typically take them to spread it to their older relatives? 5 to 14 days?

I wonder if that spread from the young people to their older relatives will uptick the death/hospitalization rates. If not, then there's something going on with the bug weakening.
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Deaths are going to go up. Hospitalizations are going up. The question is how much.
 
Moonman said:
The average time from first symptoms to death is 18.5 days. Most people aren't getting tested until they start to feel symptoms and test results can take a few days. So by the time the positive test is confirmed you could have already had it for weeks. Deaths and "new cases" follow a parallel line until around May 5th. Then deaths begin to decline while cases flatten out. Every person I know who's contracted it has recovered and they say that the worst time is the first week after they start to feel sick. Here's my point. The argument that we should expect a spike in deaths soon is based on the idea that people are getting tested on day one of symptoms. Some people may wait a week to get tested, by that time they're already just a few days from ARDS, sepsis and ultimately death. We should've started to see an increase in deaths a couple of weeks ago. That didn't happen.
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Yeah I have been skeptical of how the data is loaded. Test numbers we are seeing loaded today are for test taken last week. 5-7 days to even load the data. This people are already into recovery possibly by the time they factor into the numbers reported to the cdc. Hard to gauge how and
The Franchise said:
Here's another thing to keep an eye on. If young people are mainly catching it now, clearly it's not affecting them to the point of hospitalization and death to a significant degree. How long will it typically take them to spread it to their older relatives? 5 to 14 days?

I wonder if that spread from the young people to their older relatives will uptick the death/hospitalization rates. If not, then there's something going on with the bug weakening.
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hopefully these younger adults are actually following quarantine guidelines once they realize they are sick. Also older people need to be sheltered in place and refuse little Timmy and Becky from coming over after they hit the bars over the weekend. It takes accountability on all fronts to smash this thing. Unfortunately, Americans have been and will continue to be selfish
 
Think of the money involved in CFB, directly and indirectly. Think of what will be driving the P5 decisions. Place your bets on the season being played as planned.
 
BeastMode said:
hopefully these younger adults are actually following quarantine guidelines once they realize they are sick. Also older people need to be sheltered in place and refuse little Timmy and Becky from coming over after they hit the bars over the weekend. It takes accountability on all fronts to smash this thing. Unfortunately, Americans have been and will continue to be selfish
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Therein lies the problem.
 
BeastMode said:
hopefully these younger adults are actually following quarantine guidelines once they realize they are sick. Also older people need to be sheltered in place and refuse little Timmy and Becky from coming over after they hit the bars over the weekend. It takes accountability on all fronts to smash this thing. Unfortunately, Americans have been and will continue to be selfish
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Man u think college football players gonna have enough discipline tell becky not to come over at 3am? I remember what I was like in college. becky could spread that COVID-19 through the whole WR room if you know what i mean.
 
DemCanesByke said:
Man u think college football players gonna have enough discipline tell becky not to come over at 3am? I remember what I was like in college. becky could spread that COVID-19 through the whole WR room if you know what i mean.
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Yeah I know. Would have been better if they went the Clemson route and got sick on purpose. Clemson legit has a team immune now. They can have Becky and all her friends over now in-season
 
BeastMode said:
Yeah I have been skeptical of how the data is loaded. Test numbers we are seeing loaded today are for test taken last week. 5-7 days to even load the data. This people are already into recovery possibly by the time they factor into the numbers reported to the cdc. Hard to gauge how and



hopefully these younger adults are actually following quarantine guidelines once they realize they are sick. Also older people need to be sheltered in place and refuse little Timmy and Becky from coming over after they hit the bars over the weekend. It takes accountability on all fronts to smash this thing. Unfortunately, Americans have been and will continue to be selfish
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45% of US deaths have been from nursing and assisted living homes. If those are shut down tight, all the numbers look a lot better. Then just gotta keep older and immune compromised people at home.
 
The Franchise said:
Therein lies the problem.
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Yeah, we all would like to have football played this year strictly for humanitarian purposes.

Problem is not selfishness. Problem is taking accountability for one's choices instead of blaming others for bad outcomes.
 
Salt said:
Yeah, we all would like to have football played this year strictly for humanitarian purposes.

Problem is not selfishness. Problem is taking accountability for one's choices instead of blaming others for bad outcomes.
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Nah. The problem is selfishness, entitlement, and being big fat stomping babies. You can be the most accountable guy in the world and some selfish POS without a mask invades your personal space and expectorates particles on you and you catch the VID and die.

This isn't some goofy personal accountability bullshyt cause any more than drunk driving is or wearing pants in public is. There are certain things that people need to do in an organized society for the greater good, not just for their own good.
 
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