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dsddcane said:
Hes a politician's son... maybe he knows how to sell something
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Your posts always terrify me dsd. Are we really in for 2-3 more years of the same crap with Manny? Will we ever get out of this never ending cycle of mediocrity? Manny talks such a great game that I desperately want him to succeed but early signs aren’t great.
 
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Andrew said:
The problem is there isn’t many guys like Riley, Saban, or Dano. The odds of us hiring a random coach and him turning out to be that elite is more than 1 in 100. We can’t afford the big names.
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So what? We're supposed to settle for mediocre coaching? There are good coaches other than the elite of the elite. Make a good hire. Not this uninspired internal promotion bull****. Lincoln Riley was plucked from ******* ECU.

This offensive scheme is old and antiquated. Who could've seen that coming? Find a spread guy to put some life into this offense. Or a HC from a group of 5 school, or lower power 5 school who's shown the ability to actually lead a program. We have incompetence at all levels of the program.
 
canesbaby said:
Your posts always terrify me dsd. Are we really in for 2-3 more years of the same crap with Manny? Will we ever get out of this never ending cycle of mediocrity? Manny talks such a great game that I desperately want him to succeed but early signs aren’t great.
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If you're a Hurricanes fan you've seen the signs enough to realize a **** situation before it fully blooms. We're at the early stages of another slow burn.
 
canesbaby said:
Your posts always terrify me dsd. Are we really in for 2-3 more years of the same crap with Manny? Will we ever get out of this never ending cycle of mediocrity? Manny talks such a great game that I desperately want him to succeed but early signs aren’t great.
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You took the words right out my mouth. It’s definitely not a good sign.
 
canesbaby said:
Your posts always terrify me dsd. Are we really in for 2-3 more years of the same crap with Manny? Will we ever get out of this never ending cycle of mediocrity? Manny talks such a great game that I desperately want him to succeed but early signs aren’t great.
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Id say about 5 years. Reality is everyone was sp hard up on getting rid of richt and running him off. Careful what you wish for. With cmr we had respect we had a need for a qb coach & oc. Enos by himself with the past staff I wouldve loved to see. But oh well. I was tired of cmr headaches too. But atleast we knew the root of our problems before. Now we have a whole new set of unexplored issues. Whoever sees this as progress probably was upset we missed out on ****kowski as well
 
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RiDLer80 said:
So what? We're supposed to settle for mediocre coaching? There are good coaches other than the elite of the elite. Make a good hire. Not this uninspired internal promotion bull****. Lincoln Riley was plucked from ******* ECU.

This offensive scheme is old and antiquated. Who could've seen that coming? Find a spread guy to put some life into this offense. Or a HC from a group of 5 school, or lower power 5 school who's shown the ability to actually lead a program. We have incompetence at all levels of the program.
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We’ve hired enough coaches to have had a good one. We need an elite coach.
 
dsddcane said:
Id say about 5 years. Reality is everyone was sp hard up on getting rid of richt and running him off. Careful what you wish for. With cmr we had respect we had a need for a qb coach & oc. Enos by himself with the past staff I wouldve loved to see. But oh well. I was tired of cmr headaches too. But atleast we knew the root of our problems before. Now we have a whole new set of unexplored issues. Whoever sees this as progress probably was upset we missed out on ****kowski as well
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Bro I said the same thing. Richt had his faults no doubt. But the program was being ran better as a whole than we had seen in the last 15 years. If only he had fired his son and brought in helfrich.
 
dsddcane said:
Id say about 5 years. Reality is everyone was sp hard up on getting rid of richt and running him off. Careful what you wish for. With cmr we had respect we had a need for a qb coach & oc. Enos by himself with the past staff I wouldve loved to see. But oh well. I was tired of cmr headaches too. But atleast we knew the root of our problems before. Now we have a whole new set of unexplored issues. Whoever sees this as progress probably was upset we missed out on ****kowski as well
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Staffing issues like Banda and Baker ain't getting fixed til Manny is gone. Now Enos and Stubbs they gone at the end of the season if **** don't get better.
 
Andrew said:
We’ve hired enough coaches to have had a good one. We need an elite coach.
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We ain't had a good coach since Butch.

Coker was a caretaker. Shannon was unqualified and shlt from start to finish. Golden-LMAO. Richt was over the hill. And Diaz is Shannon with a good talk game. We haven't had a good coach since the turn of the century.
 
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The Franchise said:
I’m sick of all this personality talk like South Florida is some unique place where only a guy like Shanny or Shanntard, who “know the area” can succeed.

JJ was a red neck hayseed from Arkansas. Pink was a guy who spent his whole life in the Pacific Northwest.

Just get a winner in here who plays a fun brand of football and South Florida will love him.
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That’s why I always mention a guy LIKE Leach or one of his many disciples. I would rather lose 67-61 than win a slow developing **** like we experienced Saturday. Those teams plug in a new QB and put up points. Make it an exciting brand of football and players from both sides of the ball will suddenly start committing. We simply don’t have the horses to run the type of football the scheme dictates. And we don’t have the luxury of years of recruiting and excuse making like booch had.
 
Liberty City El said:
To me the issue with this team on both sides of the ball is scheme more so than personnel.

Particularly on Offense, I've felt we need to go to a Spread Offense since 2016 due to the fact we simply don't have the OL to run the scheme these play callers Miami keeps hiring wants us to run.

WE ARE NOT A POWER RUN UNDER CENTER "PRO STYLE" Offense. We don't have the OT's to protect long enough for 5-7 step Play Action drops & we don't have the the interior line to open up big holes & create sufficient run lanes.

We need to stop fighting against ourselves & transition to a Spread/Air Raid style offense, because 1) we have the Offensive weapons that fit that scheme perfectly & 2) it would neutralize having to always rely on the Defense to be more stout than they're capable of.

We should be beating teams off the fact we have speed & athleticism combined with making them defend the ENTIRE field. The exact same issues we had last year, we have this year, we're slow, predictable & easily shut down on Offense by any DC with half a brain because we don't apply any pressure to Defenses whatsoever, we play right into their hands.

In today's era of College Football you can manufacture yards without having elite talent all over the field, the name of the PACE & SPACE! When you don't have an elite OL with a bunch of maulers & road graders the one thing you don't do is put them in a position to lose by making them block longer than they should. In an uptempo offense the ball is moving quickly on both Pass & Run plays which makes it easier for the OL to sustain quicker blocking assignments & doesn't force them to deal with a pass rush they can't contain.

For whatever reason we keep getting these fckin play callers that think the way to solve our OL issues is to just let them get beat over & over again and then eventually they'll figure it out smfh. Jakai Clark, Zion Nelson, Donaldson & Scaife all looked like sh*t vs CMU, that to me speaks to the coaching staff not properly developing them & not teaching them correctly. It's un-fckin-believable that we haven't had an OL worth a **** in basically 5 years.

We play extremely slow as an offense with these long developing plays that get blown up in the backfield as soon as the ball is snapped. We play with no tempo at all, we should be going at breakneck speed & forcing teams to pick their poison in what they wanna sellout to Defend. PACE & SPACE, you can run the ball effectively out of the Spread while still having a lethal passing attack going with multiple 4-wide sets & when you pickup the pace of play going tempo you keep the Defense on their heels & off balanced.

Look at most of the top 30 teams in Total Offense, Oklahoma, Wash St, Arizona, LSU, Utah St, UCF, Bama, Maryland, Wake Forest, Ok St, Oh St, SMU, Baylor, Texas, Memphis & Boise St, what do they ALL have in common... SCHEME, TEMPO (PACE) & SPACING. The specific scheme may differ from each team in terms of verbiage & play calling, but the concepts are all similar & the overall philosophy is very much the same... ATTACK YOUR OPPONENTS WEAKNESSES WITH YOUR STRENGTHS & SPREAD THE DEFENSE OUT TO OPEN UP THE FIELD.

I've seen enough on this slow antiquated 1995 under center Offense, we're not Wisconsin, or BC, or Iowa, or Michigan State, we don't have the players to run this type of Offense that our OC's keep wanting to run here. We need to get with the times & Spread the got **** ball out & start utilizing our skill players better putting them in position to succeed.

The reason why we always have a bunch of talented under utilized players is because we get these dictator OC's that wanna run these old *** overly & unnecessarily complicated offenses that take 4 years to learn the playbook, while simultaneously never actually yielding any results. What fckin sense does it make to run the most complex offense ever that essentially neutralizes your own skill players & debilitates your OLine & can still be easily beaten by FCS D Coordinators & teams with less talent?

Back in November of last year I made a thread about the next HC candidates I think would do well here, the top guys were Josh Heupel, Mike Norvell, Dino Babers & Neal Brown. My reasoning was, they would bring their high powered offenses to Miami with the caliber of athletes we have which would immediately increase offensive productvity which would get us easy W's vs teams that we're more talented than, which would then also put us in position to go on a run making us a more viable team in the Coastal, which would then make us more attractive to recruits.

Manny was not on my list. I like Manny & am willing to give him time to get it right realizing full well he's not gettin fired in year 1; what my hope is is that Enos gets hired somewhere else after this season (no he's not going to Mich St as a HC, if anything he'll go be a OC for another team or possibly get hired by a MAC/Sun Belt team as a HC) & maybe we can finally get smart & hire a guy from the Oklahoma Air Raid/Spread tree to put us in position to stop playing down to competition.
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Sheeesh, boi! Nothing but a lot of facts in this post. Salute
 
The Franchise said:
OP hit it. It’s why I wanted Babers. Fit. Gundy would be awesome here too.

Look at what USC just did with its new spread and THIRD STRING QB against one of the most hyped defenses in college football.

UM is guilty of the same crap that used to kill Alabaga before Sabag. We’re too tied to what we used to be and listen too much to the old players and their longing for the JJ and Booch days. Until we stop trying to get the band back together this is what we are—an 8 win middle of the pack Coastal slug.

We keep insisting on playing slow and plodding because that’s what JJ did. Get under center run the clock down and out athlete everyone.
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JJ did not do slow and plodding. He was all about speed and intelligence (football smarts). Slow and plodding was anathema to his teams (offensively and defensively). Of course his offensives operated from a Pro Set, but there's no rule that said it had to be slow developing plays. Quite the opposite. We joked then that that the SEC, Big 10, the Big 8 teams couldn't keep up with our speed to execution. Slow and plodding crept into the scheme once Coker implemented the Coker T.
 
Ibh, and we’re not talking about this enough; we’re up 5, with the ball. At this point, we’re only avg I believe like 1.8ypc. Yet; our OC decided to run it 3x, str8, with no success. He literally gave CMU a chance to win that game by his play calling in a extremely critical moment. That beyond ****ed me off and caused me to lose all faith in his abilities
 
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RiDLer80 said:
We ain't had a good coach since Butch.

Coker was a caretaker. Shannon was unqualified and shlt from start to finish. Golden-LMAO. Richt was over the hill. And Diaz is Shannon with a good talk game. We haven't had a good coach since the turn of the century.
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Who should we have hired at the time that would have not commanded a top 10 salary? List out their track record at the time they were hired.
 
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miamifan007 said:
My question is, Enos was supposed to be Bama's next OC.

Saban doesn't hire weak idiots, what is Enos doing different than he would've done at Bama?
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Nothing. He’s running the same offense he would have ran at Bama. Unfortunately that O isn’t going to work with what the U is trotting out there on the O line. UM does not have the personnel to run what he would have the luxury of running at Bama. Square peg/round hole situation.
 
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Andrew said:
We’ve hired enough coaches to have had a good one. We need an elite coach.
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What good HEAD COACHES have we hired since butch? We've taken one short cut after another. Only legit shot we took was with cmr and nepotism/too much freedom did him in. Every other one since Coker has simply been what's cheap and convenient. First issue is we have no culture that demands success. We have an ad for far too long who has simply been financial people. Paul dee was our last one committed to winning throughout the sports platforms. To expect a winning program while everyone under frenk has a losers approach is insanity at its greatest. None of them know what it is to win period let alone dominate. When the answer is to bring in an independent firm to pool options for us it's never gonna go well. Everyone around her fans included seems so anxious to distance ourselves from our past. Heaven forbid we simply embrace it. Well it's been real but enough is enough. #wererisktakers
 
miamifan007 said:
My question is, Enos was supposed to be Bama's next OC.

Saban doesn't hire weak idiots, what is Enos doing different than he would've done at Bama?
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He wouldnt have been able to bring in his staff is what hes doing. A scheme when its surrounded by coaches and kids who DEMAND excellence is alot more successful than one ran by knuckin futs. Hes brought in all his butt buddies is the difference and they are exactly what dennis green knew they are.
 
dsddcane said:
What good HEAD COACHES have we hired since butch? We've taken one short cut after another. Only legit shot we took was with cmr and nepotism/too much freedom did him in. Every other one since Coker has simply been what's cheap and convenient. First issue is we have no culture that demands success. We have an ad for far too long who has simply been financial people. Paul dee was our last one committed to winning throughout the sports platforms. To expect a winning program while everyone under frenk has a losers approach is insanity at its greatest. None of them know what it is to win period let alone dominate. When the answer is to bring in an independent firm to pool options for us it's never gonna go well. Everyone around her fans included seems so anxious to distance ourselves from our past. Heaven forbid we simply embrace it. Well it's been real but enough is enough. #wererisktakers
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The idea that the AD is not committed to winning is crazy. Blake James told Richt he hired to hire an OC and that forced Richt to resign. I am sure Blake James would love for Miami doners to call him tomorrow and offer up $7M a year for a coach, but that isn't happening. We spend what our boosters are willing to pay.

I don't know how you define good coaches, but all of our HC were actually proven, coaches. They all made players better as either coordinators or head coaches. The idea that Blake James hasn't studied other hires is just plain dumb. No one forced James to be our AD and just like other AD's James is trying to do the best with the resources he has.
 
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