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Me eitherThat avatar of yours. I can’t take my eyes off it
Me eitherThat avatar of yours. I can’t take my eyes off it
This Dabo stuff is just crazy talk. Swinney's adaptability alone sets him miles apart.
Ed Orgeron agrees with this.As usual, people put WAY too much stock into the HC. Assistants are a huge, huge part of the puzzle (as is talent identification and really good football players).
Good info on the recruiting but that is only one aspect.Ehhh... This really wasn't always the case. Programs don't build themselves overnight.
Clemson's recruiting rankings in Dabo's first years:
2009 - 36
2010 - 27
2011 - 10
2012 - 20
For what it's worth, Miami out-recruited Clemson 3 of those 4 years.
Manny's classes so far:
2019 - 27
2020 - 17
2021 - 11
Not defending Manny, but Dabo would have been run out of town with his early record & recruiting rankings if he was at Miami.
Since you aren’t connected, who was the player?What you wrote about players not trusting him, believing in him or his coaching is accurate.
I spoke to a player from last years team and that’s exactly - almost word for word - what he and his family told me. That, and they think his coaching is subpar.
Not make believe and I’m not some guy making this up.
Im no insider. Ran into him and his family at a sports bar a Few hours before the Alabama game. Didn’t know him prior to that.
In his first three years, he went 4-3, 9-5, 6-7.
Fake news.
Dabo took over a 3-3 Clem$on team mid-season in 2008 and he finished 4-3 as the interim HC. Dabo was interim HC until 12/1/2008 (after beating the Gamecocks). So his first year as HC was 2009 (not 2008). If we are being honest, in Dabo's first 3 full seasons as HC he was 9-5 (2009), 6-7 (2010), and 10-4 (2011). But how he got there is better than Manny...
In 2009, he beat Miami (we were ranked in the top 10 at the time) and Forfeit State.
In 2010, despite a disappointing record, 5 of his 6 regular season losses were by single-digit scores (including an OT loss to NC champs Auburn on the road).
In 2011, he led Clem$on to its first ACC championship in 20 years and was coach of the year (though they did get smoked in the Orange Bowl).
I guess if Manny manages to stick around and somehow wins the ACC this season and gets himself a signature win against a top 10 opponent, we can revisit this.
Is Manny Diaz the next Dabo Swinney?
The canes are 2-2 with victories against Appalachian State and Central Connecticut State and losses to Alabama and Michigan State. We have the same records are Clemson, which has wins against Georgia Tech and South Carolina State and losses to Georgia and NC State. Similar wins and losses for both teams.
A disillusioned, fervent, and mostly lunatic Miami fan base who expects the Canes to be undefeated and competing for a national championship after Manny Diaz’s third year as the head coach of the Miami Hurricanes. Let’s get rid of the guy that bleeds orange and green when he is at the precipice of greatness at Miami. Let’s do it, just because we are Miami.
Let’s ignore the fact that Mark Ritch abandoned us as he ended his fourth year at Miami with a 7-6 record and a loss to Wisconsin in the Orange Bowl. Why did he leave? Could it be because he recruited the juniors and seniors in the 2021 team? Did he recruit the wrong guys? After all, we did get blown again, could not compete, in the ACC Championship game a year earlier against Dabo Swinney. Ritch’s honeymoon was over in Miami, and he knew it.
Before we make Manny’s life impossible, before we run off the guy that gives us the best chance to make Miami relevant again, let’s look at Dabo Swinney’s career as the head coach of the Clemson Tigers. In his first three years, he went 4-3, 9-5, 6-7. Yes, the coach that has won two national championships started his career with a record similar to Manny Diaz. Dabo thought he was going to get fired after the loss to Steve Spurriers South Carolina Gamecocks in the 2010 season in the meeting he had with the Clemson AD Terry Don Phillips. It wasn’t until 2011 that Clemson was able to achieve a 10-win regular season, which subsequently ended in a devastating 70-33 loss to West Virginia in the Orange Bowl. If Dabo was our coach, he might have not lasted with a 13-8 record through his first two years.
Miami and their fans need to stick with Manny Diaz because he can be the next Dabo Swinney that can guide the Miami program to the pinnacle of college football, going toe-to-toe against the likes of Alabama and Ohio State.
So is this year 3 or 6 for Manny in your opinion. Honestly curious.
Did you consider that CMR likely left because he was diagnosed with Parkinson’s Disease and figured to make the most of his life with the time that he had left of being active and able? And to insinuate that he abandoned this team after what he accomplished for the U is ridiculous.
Is Manny Diaz the next Dabo Swinney?
The canes are 2-2 with victories against Appalachian State and Central Connecticut State and losses to Alabama and Michigan State. We have the same records are Clemson, which has wins against Georgia Tech and South Carolina State and losses to Georgia and NC State. Similar wins and losses for both teams.
A disillusioned, fervent, and mostly lunatic Miami fan base who expects the Canes to be undefeated and competing for a national championship after Manny Diaz’s third year as the head coach of the Miami Hurricanes. Let’s get rid of the guy that bleeds orange and green when he is at the precipice of greatness at Miami. Let’s do it, just because we are Miami.
Let’s ignore the fact that Mark Ritch abandoned us as he ended his fourth year at Miami with a 7-6 record and a loss to Wisconsin in the Orange Bowl. Why did he leave? Could it be because he recruited the juniors and seniors in the 2021 team? Did he recruit the wrong guys? After all, we did get blown again, could not compete, in the ACC Championship game a year earlier against Dabo Swinney. Ritch’s honeymoon was over in Miami, and he knew it.
Before we make Manny’s life impossible, before we run off the guy that gives us the best chance to make Miami relevant again, let’s look at Dabo Swinney’s career as the head coach of the Clemson Tigers. In his first three years, he went 4-3, 9-5, 6-7. Yes, the coach that has won two national championships started his career with a record similar to Manny Diaz. Dabo thought he was going to get fired after the loss to Steve Spurriers South Carolina Gamecocks in the 2010 season in the meeting he had with the Clemson AD Terry Don Phillips. It wasn’t until 2011 that Clemson was able to achieve a 10-win regular season, which subsequently ended in a devastating 70-33 loss to West Virginia in the Orange Bowl. If Dabo was our coach, he might have not lasted with a 13-8 record through his first two years.
Miami and their fans need to stick with Manny Diaz because he can be the next Dabo Swinney that can guide the Miami program to the pinnacle of college football, going toe-to-toe against the likes of Alabama and Ohio State.