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I love d$ but I hope he’s off the arch love fest after this…

lurker said:
Don't disagree with any of that, but sir, this is a football message board full of people who don't **** about football (including myself). Are you watching the all 22 of all Texas games?
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No, watched a few from this season, offense only and a few from last year. Aside from watching their games on TV and hearing all the hub bub on Manning I wanted to see for myself, is it all him and if not what was really going on.

He is far from perfect but there is a lot of chaos happening in that offense whereas you don't see that on the defensive side.
 
NicKane said:
And with that said, he’s still a lot more talented than arch is. Arch is in year four and still can’t anticipate throws or windows.
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Oh I wasn’t comparing the two. Arch is a bust as far as the NFL goes. I am just saying it was a big reach for the Jets to pick him that high. He was never worthy of that pick.
 
DMoney said:
That’s a fair projection. I don’t think Arch is generational. Where I pushback is this idea that he’s a total fraud. I think he has real talent and he’s tough.
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His arm talent is good not great. He lacks touch on short to intermediate throws. He is way too inconsistent throwing receivers into space… he occasionally makes a nice throw to what have been open receivers. He has failed to show a real sense of pocket awareness. His footwork is not good.

But most of all he can not read a defense for his life.
 
gogeta4 said:
so he is Daniel Jones.
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Maybe in terms of build and athleticism. But Jones didn't even display that running ability in college even though he's broken a few longer runs in the NFL.
Daniels Jones wasn't even a good passer at Duke. He had one solid yr that wasn't even as good as Archs 2025. In his career he had more Turnover Worthy Plays than BigTimeThrows. I mean Jones 1.8TD:INT vs Arch 3TD:INT as starter.
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Calinative said:
Maybe in terms of build and athleticism. But Jones didn't even display that running ability in college even though he's broken a few longer runs in the NFL.
Daniels Jones wasn't even a good passer at Duke. He had one solid yr that wasn't even as good as Archs 2025. In his career he had more Turnover Worthy Plays than BigTimeThrows. I mean Jones 1.8TD:INT vs Arch 3TD:INT as starter.
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Their passing stats per passing attempts is strikingly similar for their best season.. Obviously Duke had far less talent and was more reliant on a running game then Texas is-utilizes.

I would say Daniel Jones he is a comparable college QB who is just a step behind Arch athletically!

Does anyone believe in Daniel Jones? That was a flash in the pan last year and clearly a mis-evaluation on the NFL level. Should be a backup if anything in the NFL.
 
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