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Stopped reading after you tried to equate Mangino following Leach (who was only there a year by the way) as OC to Coker reaping the benefit of the recruiting and program building that Davis did over a 6 year period as HC.My opinion ... Leach would have been an interesting hire to follow Coker. We chose to go another way ... That way hasn't worked. The ship has sailed on that opportunity, and his subsequent coaching job hasn't been good enough for me to think we should re-visit him.
But FWIW ... I watch games, too. And giving credit to Mangino for that 2000 Oklahoma offense is like giving credit to Coker for the 2001 Hurricanes. And you know it, too ... dear friend.
As for Riley ... He played and coached for Leach, learned the college game from him. But he'll have talent at the RB position for OU, and a team built for a more balanced offensive game-plan. We'll see how they do ...
I don't really care enough about Leach to continue.
Yeah.
Stoops didn't even consider the Mike Leach connection when he considered Riley for the job ...
Stoops mentioned Mike Leach and Hal Mumme on a couple of occasions. Leach, of course, was a Mumme disciple of the Air Raid offense and the first offensive coordinator that Stoops hired after he was hired way back in 1998. Leach brought the system to Norman, and even though he left after only a year and handed off to Mark Mangino, Leach set in motion the change that would win a national title and propel the program to years of success.
http://newsok.com/oklahoma-football...ing-back-the-air-raid-offense/article/5385718
Read the thread title ...
It's about ... Wait for it ... Mike Leach.
I find it interesting that you want the OC who came from Leach's tutelage ... When we are debating whether or not Mike Leach would be a good HC, and specifically, whether his O would win titles.
FWIW ... Bad HC's don't usually produce good assistants ...
Dear friend, while you're busy being super condescending realize that just because an OC worked under or with Leach doesn't...wait for it...mean he's running the same offense.
Holgerson came up in that same system, and his offense is completely different than Leach's. Leach detests the run. Holgerson is a run first guy. If you think ECU was running a flat out Leach Air Raid under Lincoln Reilly...wait for it...you wrong, dear friend.
Leach's biggest problem is his refusal to adapt his system and incorporate more run game. That's why he always fails and why most of the other guys associated with the original Mumme Air Raid offense have adapted their approach to spread teams out with a bunch of WRs and gash the bejesus out of them with the run game.
Go ahead and point to more articles, smart friend. You're very well read.
Unfortunately for you, I actually watched the games. OU's offense didn't really take off until Leach left and Mangino took over. With Mangino in place, OU's offense exploded because Mangino ran the football and balanced it out a little. They won the NC with Mangino running the offense; they went 7-5 or something like that with Leach running the offense.
Next.
You're operating on a different level that is far too complex for an unsophisticated chap like me to comprehend.