Gus Felder new S&C coach

I'm going to cry because the only two names I knew weren't hired.

Well that makes you an uninformed imbecile whose opinion on the matter should have no import to actual adults - you only know two SC coaches' names that were potential candidates and you think you are qualified to have any opinion of merit regarding who UM hires as SC coach? The fact is you came up with two names (likely Ivey and Moffit) because every half-wit on this board began puppet-ting them over and over on this board because some guy who has never lifted a day in his life tweeted he heard from someone one name. UM just hired basically the SC staff from the University of Georgia which included the guy that was regarded as one of the top SC coaches for over a decade at Penn State. Georgia and Penn State...you think those programs know a bit about SC...lol. Stop having such a strong opinion on a subject you know nothing about. There is virtually no one on this board that has any opinion on the SC component of a university athletic department that has any credibility whatsoever - most here are overweight, middle aged, beta males, that spend more time on a Canes message board than actually lifting. Most here have never trained a day in their life hard enough to bust a blood vessel in their eye because they couldn't turn a squat over from the bottom or did pyramid sets of 100 reps of legs presses that shocked your body so much that your kidneys started producing urine every 10 minutes for 4 hours. Sit back, take the opinion of a few of the non-Beta, non-whiny, non-figgats, whose girlfriend's are not getting trained on by actual men, and see what they have to say. This rock star SC cult of personality that began to creep in here was absurd. You think there are only two guys in the country that know how to teach skinny malnourished Africans from the hood how to deadlift? GTFO man. You are a moron, so I don't imagin you will understand my point, but in summary, 1) dont form such strong beliefs about things your are uninformed about, 2) do not listen to a bunch of meely-mouth bishes on a Canes forum who have never facking even attempted an Olympic lift regarding their opinion of strength training, 3) understand that there are many very qualified guys beyond the two you learned about in the last 3 days that bring a huge amount of knowledge and understanding to SC training, 4) and this i most important, the quality of SC staff that was just brought in has stool samples that know more than the ignoramus that was fired. You are akin to a voter in a democracy that votes for a candidate because you like his hair as you are too dumb to actually learn about his policy ideas. Stop being an embarrassment and grow a pair you pansy.

Paragraphs????

More like chapters...

Did he type that all in one breath?
 
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I would also offer this...of anyone in S&C truly had a discernable advantage due thier system, TTPs, etc...

I would think the market of international pro teams..NFL...Euro Soccer...Rugby...etc...would beat a path to their door paved in gold.

Has this been the case with ANY name debated on these S&C threads?

If not true, I would argue the market has spoken in terms of marginal value of this name.or that. The premium to hire would then come.down to other qualitative factors...good.guy...honest...esy to.work.with...not .douche bag...i know/trust him...etc...
I will go with whoever has the best drugs wins!

That's basically what it comes down to nowadays
 
I'm going to cry because the only two names I knew weren't hired.

Well that makes you an uninformed imbecile whose opinion on the matter should have no import to actual adults - you only know two SC coaches' names that were potential candidates and you think you are qualified to have any opinion of merit regarding who UM hires as SC coach? The fact is you came up with two names (likely Ivey and Moffit) because every half-wit on this board began puppet-ting them over and over on this board because some guy who has never lifted a day in his life tweeted he heard from someone one name. UM just hired basically the SC staff from the University of Georgia which included the guy that was regarded as one of the top SC coaches for over a decade at Penn State. Georgia and Penn State...you think those programs know a bit about SC...lol. Stop having such a strong opinion on a subject you know nothing about. There is virtually no one on this board that has any opinion on the SC component of a university athletic department that has any credibility whatsoever - most here are overweight, middle aged, beta males, that spend more time on a Canes message board than actually lifting. Most here have never trained a day in their life hard enough to bust a blood vessel in their eye because they couldn't turn a squat over from the bottom or did pyramid sets of 100 reps of legs presses that shocked your body so much that your kidneys started producing urine every 10 minutes for 4 hours. Sit back, take the opinion of a few of the non-Beta, non-whiny, non-figgats, whose girlfriend's are not getting trained on by actual men, and see what they have to say. This rock star SC cult of personality that began to creep in here was absurd. You think there are only two guys in the country that know how to teach skinny malnourished Africans from the hood how to deadlift? GTFO man. You are a moron, so I don't imagin you will understand my point, but in summary, 1) dont form such strong beliefs about things your are uninformed about, 2) do not listen to a bunch of meely-mouth bishes on a Canes forum who have never facking even attempted an Olympic lift regarding their opinion of strength training, 3) understand that there are many very qualified guys beyond the two you learned about in the last 3 days that bring a huge amount of knowledge and understanding to SC training, 4) and this i most important, the quality of SC staff that was just brought in has stool samples that know more than the ignoramus that was fired. You are akin to a voter in a democracy that votes for a candidate because you like his hair as you are too dumb to actually learn about his policy ideas. Stop being an embarrassment and grow a pair you pansy.

Paragraphs????

More like chapters...

Did he type that all in one breath?

No. I think we just witnessed the 'monkey typing the bible' scenario. Monkey's don't understand sarcasm. Proven fact.
 
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Well that makes you an uninformed imbecile whose opinion on the matter should have no import to actual adults - you only know two SC coaches' names that were potential candidates and you think you are qualified to have any opinion of merit regarding who UM hires as SC coach? The fact is you came up with two names (likely Ivey and Moffit) because every half-wit on this board began puppet-ting them over and over on this board because some guy who has never lifted a day in his life tweeted he heard from someone one name. UM just hired basically the SC staff from the University of Georgia which included the guy that was regarded as one of the top SC coaches for over a decade at Penn State. Georgia and Penn State...you think those programs know a bit about SC...lol. Stop having such a strong opinion on a subject you know nothing about. There is virtually no one on this board that has any opinion on the SC component of a university athletic department that has any credibility whatsoever - most here are overweight, middle aged, beta males, that spend more time on a Canes message board than actually lifting. Most here have never trained a day in their life hard enough to bust a blood vessel in their eye because they couldn't turn a squat over from the bottom or did pyramid sets of 100 reps of legs presses that shocked your body so much that your kidneys started producing urine every 10 minutes for 4 hours. Sit back, take the opinion of a few of the non-Beta, non-whiny, non-figgats, whose girlfriend's are not getting trained on by actual men, and see what they have to say. This rock star SC cult of personality that began to creep in here was absurd. You think there are only two guys in the country that know how to teach skinny malnourished Africans from the hood how to deadlift? GTFO man. You are a moron, so I don't imagin you will understand my point, but in summary, 1) dont form such strong beliefs about things your are uninformed about, 2) do not listen to a bunch of meely-mouth bishes on a Canes forum who have never facking even attempted an Olympic lift regarding their opinion of strength training, 3) understand that there are many very qualified guys beyond the two you learned about in the last 3 days that bring a huge amount of knowledge and understanding to SC training, 4) and this i most important, the quality of SC staff that was just brought in has stool samples that know more than the ignoramus that was fired. You are akin to a voter in a democracy that votes for a candidate because you like his hair as you are too dumb to actually learn about his policy ideas. Stop being an embarrassment and grow a pair you pansy.

Lol you mad bro?
 
It's a message board - what's wrong with people going back and forth about a new hire?

Some of you are so god **** sensitive. Do I think FullyEricht is a bit over the top with his criticism? Sure. But more often than not it makes for good discussion, and also encourages others to do some research (in an attempt to prove him wrong) & find new information on this guy or that guy (see Diaz threads).

But it's a fvckin message board people. A place where sports fans go to kill time between games. Enjoy the debates and welcome differing opinions.
 
Has anyone confirmed our system will now be HIT or is it just speculated?

That would be disappointing for the type of athletes we attract.

Speculation. One of our new assistants, Thomas, is a known HIT guy and our head of S&C, Felder, was a football player at Penn State when Thomas was the head of S&C. The other thing to consider is that the both, Thomas and Felder, have recently been assistants to Hocke who uses the Hatch system.

They were also working for some dude named Richt. I think they will employ the program he desires.

We've heard that before. If it were that easy, the should bring back Swasey

I'd just like someone to explain the differences between HIT and Hatch - not HIIT. HIT as in what I understand higher rep system between 8-15. I don't know much about that system and, if that's what we might go to, would like to learn more.
 
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Has anyone confirmed our system will now be HIT or is it just speculated?

That would be disappointing for the type of athletes we attract.

Speculation. One of our new assistants, Thomas, is a known HIT guy and our head of S&C, Felder, was a football player at Penn State when Thomas was the head of S&C. The other thing to consider is that the both, Thomas and Felder, have recently been assistants to Hocke who uses the Hatch system.

They were also working for some dude named Richt. I think they will employ the program he desires.

We've heard that before. If it were that easy, the should bring back Swasey

I'd just like someone to explain the differences between HIT and Hatch - not HIIT. HIT as in what I understand higher rep system between 8-15. I don't know much about that system and, if that's what we might go to, would like to learn more.

I explained it briefly in a post earlier.

Simply put HIT focuses on lesser weight, higher reps (training to failure), and controlled lifts that place a great deal of emphasis on time under tension - e.g. 2 seconds up, pause, 4 seconds down. Eccentric portion of lift just as important as concentric. (pushing the weight up = concentric, bring weight down is eccentric portion)

Hatch couldn't be more different in that it focuses on heavier weights, less reps, and explosive movements. You don't spend a great deal of time under tension. You blast the rep and really train your fast twitch fibers (the ones a DL/OL would use to explode off the line).


I'm sure these new hires have adjusted their HIT to incorporate more Olympic style training into it.

Gayle Hatch obviously isn't the "inventor" of Olympic style lifts, he just helped train a lot of American Olympians, and then later trained coaches who went on to become S&C guys at big time college and professional programs, etc. None of it is rocket science, or over the head of HIT guys of today, but it's just a differing in philosophy of how to train the muscle.

But pre-1980's/90's the majority athletes in this country were still on machines as oppose to free weights (and **** a lot of baseball players weren't even lifting because they thought it would stiffen you up - e.g. pitchers). Free weights and the idea of incorporating Olympic lifts into college sports really took off in the 90s and now it's the foundation of everyone's S&C program. So in those regards Gayle Hatch was ahead of the game. He's a Louisiana guy and knew Skip Bertman quite well. He convinced Skip to start training his athletes using the Hatch system. Well we all remember the LSU baseball teams of the 90s. Set records for runs and HRs.

And I'm rambling on and on... :)
 
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I'm going to cry because the only two names I knew weren't hired.

Well that makes you an uninformed imbecile whose opinion on the matter should have no import to actual adults - you only know two SC coaches' names that were potential candidates and you think you are qualified to have any opinion of merit regarding who UM hires as SC coach? The fact is you came up with two names (likely Ivey and Moffit) because every half-wit on this board began puppet-ting them over and over on this board because some guy who has never lifted a day in his life tweeted he heard from someone one name. UM just hired basically the SC staff from the University of Georgia which included the guy that was regarded as one of the top SC coaches for over a decade at Penn State. Georgia and Penn State...you think those programs know a bit about SC...lol. Stop having such a strong opinion on a subject you know nothing about. There is virtually no one on this board that has any opinion on the SC component of a university athletic department that has any credibility whatsoever - most here are overweight, middle aged, beta males, that spend more time on a Canes message board than actually lifting. Most here have never trained a day in their life hard enough to bust a blood vessel in their eye because they couldn't turn a squat over from the bottom or did pyramid sets of 100 reps of legs presses that shocked your body so much that your kidneys started producing urine every 10 minutes for 4 hours. Sit back, take the opinion of a few of the non-Beta, non-whiny, non-figgats, whose girlfriend's are not getting trained on by actual men, and see what they have to say. This rock star SC cult of personality that began to creep in here was absurd. You think there are only two guys in the country that know how to teach skinny malnourished Africans from the hood how to deadlift? GTFO man. You are a moron, so I don't imagin you will understand my point, but in summary, 1) dont form such strong beliefs about things your are uninformed about, 2) do not listen to a bunch of meely-mouth bishes on a Canes forum who have never facking even attempted an Olympic lift regarding their opinion of strength training, 3) understand that there are many very qualified guys beyond the two you learned about in the last 3 days that bring a huge amount of knowledge and understanding to SC training, 4) and this i most important, the quality of SC staff that was just brought in has stool samples that know more than the ignoramus that was fired. You are akin to a voter in a democracy that votes for a candidate because you like his hair as you are too dumb to actually learn about his policy ideas. Stop being an embarrassment and grow a pair you pansy.

Wow, buy a clue. You're not very bright, are you?
 
Why do we have to hire all these first time coaches??

I know the answer - it's because they were players for Richt and he feels like he owes them

But that's the wrong path IMO. OK...so you're not gonna pony up and go after a proven big time guy....but what's to stop them from hiring the S&C guy at Baylor or TCU or Boise State or Utah etc? Are you really telling me this kid is the best we can do?
 
I'm going to cry because the only two names I knew weren't hired.

Well that makes you an uninformed imbecile whose opinion on the matter should have no import to actual adults - you only know two SC coaches' names that were potential candidates and you think you are qualified to have any opinion of merit regarding who UM hires as SC coach? The fact is you came up with two names (likely Ivey and Moffit) because every half-wit on this board began puppet-ting them over and over on this board because some guy who has never lifted a day in his life tweeted he heard from someone one name. UM just hired basically the SC staff from the University of Georgia which included the guy that was regarded as one of the top SC coaches for over a decade at Penn State. Georgia and Penn State...you think those programs know a bit about SC...lol. Stop having such a strong opinion on a subject you know nothing about. There is virtually no one on this board that has any opinion on the SC component of a university athletic department that has any credibility whatsoever - most here are overweight, middle aged, beta males, that spend more time on a Canes message board than actually lifting. Most here have never trained a day in their life hard enough to bust a blood vessel in their eye because they couldn't turn a squat over from the bottom or did pyramid sets of 100 reps of legs presses that shocked your body so much that your kidneys started producing urine every 10 minutes for 4 hours. Sit back, take the opinion of a few of the non-Beta, non-whiny, non-figgats, whose girlfriend's are not getting trained on by actual men, and see what they have to say. This rock star SC cult of personality that began to creep in here was absurd. You think there are only two guys in the country that know how to teach skinny malnourished Africans from the hood how to deadlift? GTFO man. You are a moron, so I don't imagin you will understand my point, but in summary, 1) dont form such strong beliefs about things your are uninformed about, 2) do not listen to a bunch of meely-mouth bishes on a Canes forum who have never facking even attempted an Olympic lift regarding their opinion of strength training, 3) understand that there are many very qualified guys beyond the two you learned about in the last 3 days that bring a huge amount of knowledge and understanding to SC training, 4) and this i most important, the quality of SC staff that was just brought in has stool samples that know more than the ignoramus that was fired. You are akin to a voter in a democracy that votes for a candidate because you like his hair as you are too dumb to actually learn about his policy ideas. Stop being an embarrassment and grow a pair you pansy.

"Don't get strange"
 
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Why do we have to hire all these first time coaches??

I know the answer - it's because they were players for Richt and he feels like he owes them

But that's the wrong path IMO. OK...so you're not gonna pony up and go after a proven big time guy....but what's to stop them from hiring the S&C guy at Baylor or TCU or Boise State or Utah etc? Are you really telling me this kid is the best we can do?

How many first time coaches did we hire?
 
Has anyone confirmed our system will now be HIT or is it just speculated?

That would be disappointing for the type of athletes we attract.

Speculation. One of our new assistants, Thomas, is a known HIT guy and our head of S&C, Felder, was a football player at Penn State when Thomas was the head of S&C. The other thing to consider is that the both, Thomas and Felder, have recently been assistants to Hocke who uses the Hatch system.

They were also working for some dude named Richt. I think they will employ the program he desires.

We've heard that before. If it were that easy, the should bring back Swasey

I'd just like someone to explain the differences between HIT and Hatch - not HIIT. HIT as in what I understand higher rep system between 8-15. I don't know much about that system and, if that's what we might go to, would like to learn more.

Good question, but I don't know the answer to that so I'll let someone else take it.

The S&C coach is more than a lifting guru, in my opinion. This is the guy who leads your team all offseason when the HC doesn't have contact. You want a strong leader, and someone who is going to instill the toughness and character that will define your football team during the season

That's why Alabama's guy is so good, and that's why soft-spoken Swasey wasn't so good.

I don't care what system a guy runs, I'd just prefer someone who's results are proven - someone who will instill toughness and grit in this team

Moffitt was great at that
 
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Why do we have to hire all these first time coaches??

I know the answer - it's because they were players for Richt and he feels like he owes them

But that's the wrong path IMO. OK...so you're not gonna pony up and go after a proven big time guy....but what's to stop them from hiring the S&C guy at Baylor or TCU or Boise State or Utah etc? Are you really telling me this kid is the best we can do?

Smdh

Some of you should just be quiet man
 
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Why do we have to hire all these first time coaches??

I know the answer - it's because they were players for Richt and he feels like he owes them

But that's the wrong path IMO. OK...so you're not gonna pony up and go after a proven big time guy....but what's to stop them from hiring the S&C guy at Baylor or TCU or Boise State or Utah etc? Are you really telling me this kid is the best we can do?

How many first time coaches did we hire?

Richt Jr.
Rumph
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Why do we have to hire all these first time coaches??

I know the answer - it's because they were players for Richt and he feels like he owes them

But that's the wrong path IMO. OK...so you're not gonna pony up and go after a proven big time guy....but what's to stop them from hiring the S&C guy at Baylor or TCU or Boise State or Utah etc? Are you really telling me this kid is the best we can do?

What first time coach have we hired that played for Richt?
 
Speculation. One of our new assistants, Thomas, is a known HIT guy and our head of S&C, Felder, was a football player at Penn State when Thomas was the head of S&C. The other thing to consider is that the both, Thomas and Felder, have recently been assistants to Hocke who uses the Hatch system.

They were also working for some dude named Richt. I think they will employ the program he desires.

We've heard that before. If it were that easy, the should bring back Swasey

I'd just like someone to explain the differences between HIT and Hatch - not HIIT. HIT as in what I understand higher rep system between 8-15. I don't know much about that system and, if that's what we might go to, would like to learn more.

Good question, but I don't know the answer to that so I'll let someone else take it.

The S&C coach is more than a lifting guru, in my opinion. This is the guy who leads your team all offseason when the HC doesn't have contact. You want a strong leader, and someone who is going to instill the toughness and character that will define your football team during the season

That's why Alabama's guy is so good, and that's why soft-spoken Swasey wasn't so good.

I don't care what system a guy runs, I'd just prefer someone who's results are proven - someone who will instill toughness and grit in this team

Moffitt was great at that

That's why you need to shut the **** up. It's obvious you don't know what the **** you are talking about.
 
The night UM was decimated by L$U in the Chick-fil-a bowl in 2005 I passed by the UGA and W. Va. teams as they walked in to attend the game (prior to their January 2nd Sugar Bowl game relocated to Atlanta due to Katrina). I am 6'3" 230 and the UGA players made me feel like an elf, biggest team I have ever been around. If these guys can reshape the Canes, we will be very successful.
 
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