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But, since you want to play that game, I'll say this: you're running an intermediate to deep route with 5 man protection. Good luck. A 5 man fire zone pressure bringing both inside backers looks good right about now.

Actually, my pass pro is 6 man, you must've missed the part where I said I'd "CHECK RELEASE my RB up the middle".

I saw. I would say that it'll end up being 5. You're going to release the back through the offensive line? Your route had him going down the middle to the weak side, which assumes that all he would be doing is picking up an outside rusher or chipping him and going. A fire zone featuring two blitzing backers has the weak side DE picking up the seam/curl/flat zone. Your back wont see anyone to pick up and he'll start running down the field.
 
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But, since you want to play that game, I'll say this: you're running an intermediate to deep route with 5 man protection. Good luck. A 5 man fire zone pressure bringing both inside backers looks good right about now.

Actually, my pass pro is 6 man, you must've missed the part where I said I'd "CHECK RELEASE my RB up the middle".

I saw. I would say that it'll end up being 5. You're going to release the back through the offensive line? Your route had him going down the middle to the weak side, which assumes that all he would be doing is picking up an outside rusher or chipping him and going. A fire zone featuring two blitzing backers has the weak side DE picking up the seam/curl/flat zone. Your back wont see anyone to pick up and he'll start running down the field.

And again, this game we're playing is futile. There's no context.
 
and what I saw was Tracy getting lost in deep coverage like all the time.

Give me some examples...

I'd have to look through past games to give you exact examples--I'd have to find some time for that. My family's seats are in the end zone, so I usually get a good perspective on that kind or stuff. When he transitions into his bail, he tends to lose the receiver. He gives too much lateral cushion because he still hasn't figured out how to properly lean on receivers after taking his inside leverage zone turn. Qbs are able to throw over him very easily. His lack of height, length, and leaping ability don't help either.

Whether he's playing as an outside quarter in a quarter/quarter/half look or as an outside 1/3 in a cover 3 look, he has the responsibility of playing the two vertical routes from the #1 (with help from the sideline) and #2 receivers (with help from the inside quarter [or deep middle 1/3] player). A lot of times he gets a vertical release from just the #1 receiver (and not #2 ) and he doesn't adjust his bail. He stays respecting the inside vertical route from #2 that isn't even there. Sometimes he just can't recover back to the #1 receiver after properly respecting a vertical from #2 .

He looks out of sorts way too often. A guy like Corn Elder, who is smaller than him, plays those situations much better because he is so decisive, has great ball skills, and leaping ability. He's just better. Artie play those situations the best, IMO. He's perfectly built as a deep zone player.

cord elder who has 4 career pbu's and 0 ints has "great ball skills"?

Yes.

have to disagree. people overate his ball skills. he does not to appear to have a natural instinct to find the ball in the air and coach williams hasn't helped in that department. tracy has shown that ability despite his performance last year.
 
Give me some examples...

I'd have to look through past games to give you exact examples--I'd have to find some time for that. My family's seats are in the end zone, so I usually get a good perspective on that kind or stuff. When he transitions into his bail, he tends to lose the receiver. He gives too much lateral cushion because he still hasn't figured out how to properly lean on receivers after taking his inside leverage zone turn. Qbs are able to throw over him very easily. His lack of height, length, and leaping ability don't help either.

Whether he's playing as an outside quarter in a quarter/quarter/half look or as an outside 1/3 in a cover 3 look, he has the responsibility of playing the two vertical routes from the #1 (with help from the sideline) and #2 receivers (with help from the inside quarter [or deep middle 1/3] player). A lot of times he gets a vertical release from just the #1 receiver (and not #2 ) and he doesn't adjust his bail. He stays respecting the inside vertical route from #2 that isn't even there. Sometimes he just can't recover back to the #1 receiver after properly respecting a vertical from #2 .

He looks out of sorts way too often. A guy like Corn Elder, who is smaller than him, plays those situations much better because he is so decisive, has great ball skills, and leaping ability. He's just better. Artie play those situations the best, IMO. He's perfectly built as a deep zone player.

cord elder who has 4 career pbu's and 0 ints has "great ball skills"?

Yes.

have to disagree. people overate his ball skills. he does not to appear to have a natural instinct to find the ball in the air and coach williams hasn't helped in that department. tracy has shown that ability despite his performance last year.

Gfer:

I'm not giving up on Tracy by any means. Look through all my posts on this thread. When I said Corn was "just better," it means that he's just better in the situation I was describing. That being said, I think Corn is an excellent player, and I'm not going to apologize for thinking highly of him.
 
Is the play at 14:21 Tracy's fault:

[video=youtube;6sOThiakXKc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sOThiakXKc&feature=player_detailpage#t=861[/video]
 
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Is the play at 14:21 Tracy's fault:

[video=youtube;6sOThiakXKc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sOThiakXKc&feature=player_detailpage#t=861[/video]

No. Inside quarter player bit on #3 , who was way too shallow to follow. Underneath coverage could have taken care of that route. Inside quarter player need to at least make that throw go over him, so Tracy would have had more time to help.
 
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and what I saw was Tracy getting lost in deep coverage like all the time.

Give me some examples...

I'd have to look through past games to give you exact examples--I'd have to find some time for that. My family's seats are in the end zone, so I usually get a good perspective on that kind or stuff. When he transitions into his bail, he tends to lose the receiver. He gives too much lateral cushion because he still hasn't figured out how to properly lean on receivers after taking his inside leverage zone turn. Qbs are able to throw over him very easily. His lack of height, length, and leaping ability don't help either.

Whether he's playing as an outside quarter in a quarter/quarter/half look or as an outside 1/3 in a cover 3 look, he has the responsibility of playing the two vertical routes from the #1 (with help from the sideline) and #2 receivers (with help from the inside quarter [or deep middle 1/3] player). A lot of times he gets a vertical release from just the #1 receiver (and not #2 ) and he doesn't adjust his bail. He stays respecting the inside vertical route from #2 that isn't even there. Sometimes he just can't recover back to the #1 receiver after properly respecting a vertical from #2 .

He looks out of sorts way too often. A guy like Corn Elder, who is smaller than him, plays those situations much better because he is so decisive, has great ball skills, and leaping ability. He's just better. Artie play those situations the best, IMO. He's perfectly built as a deep zone player.

cord elder who has 4 career pbu's and 0 ints has "great ball skills"?
The legend of Corn Elder.
 
No. Inside quarter player bit on #3 , who was way too shallow to follow. Underneath coverage could have taken care of that route. Inside quarter player need to at least make that throw go over him, so Tracy would have had more time to help.

I think the inside 1/4 player was doing exactly what they coached Him to do. Listen to D'Onofrio's description of Safety play at 2:47 of this video..."never back-pedals on the snap, nor run...y'know...downhill."

[video=youtube;OUNDZkWYqjA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUNDZkWYqjA[/video]
 
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No. Inside quarter player bit on #3 , who was way too shallow to follow. Underneath coverage could have taken care of that route. Inside quarter player need to at least make that throw go over him, so Tracy would have had more time to help.

I think the inside 1/4 player was doing exactly what they coached Him to do. Listen to D'Onofrio's description of Safety play at 2:47 of this video..."never back-pedals on the snap, nor run...y'know...downhill."

[video=youtube;OUNDZkWYqjA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUNDZkWYqjA[/video]

There is ZERO context behind his words.
 
Same thing happened to me when I played Neil Armstrong in Moonshot. They found me in an alley in Burbank trying to re-enter the earth's atmosphere in an old refrigerator box.
 
Tracy Howard is too slow? What a bunch of pucking morans around here!

Richard Sherman runs like a 4.56. He seems to be doing OK as a "slow" DB.

There are porsters here that act like they've never watched a real football game.

Yea, compare a 6'4, physical ballhawk to Tracy Howard. The stupidity around here is at an all-time high.

He's not an elite athlete. He's not a ballhawk. He's a solid player.

I was merely pointing out that speed isn't everything when it comes to CB play. I can see how the whole thing went right through your head. Because there isn't much in there to stop it.
 
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His ball skills are terrible.
 
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