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filmcane said:
Right before they got crushed by UGA (and Beck), they were 13-0 and must've thought that Norvell had built a machine to last for decades. Prison Mike really did hit it just right and caught lightning in a bottle:
  • To his credit, he struck gold in the portal before the other players caught on. As much as we make fun of him, I do tip my cap for that. He mitigated his weakness (Recruiting and development) and found a huge opportunity in the portal.
  • He had a (for FSU) generational QB who was not only a playmaker, but was also very twitchy so he could mask not the greatest OL for FSU. BTW, elite QB's aren't everything, but they really do make the difference.
    • As an example, Dabo did a great job in multiple areas when he had his run, but the true difference maker was having 2 great QB's in a row, then a good QB, who he then replaced with the best QB he ever had (Sunshine). Then, although he's had two 5 star QB's in a row, neither of them panned out like the other QB's and low and behold, the game has "passed him by".
  • The Noles were so desperate to regain the Jameis "He actually is a rapist...that's real, BTW" Winston years, that when they had those two 10 win seasons, they thought they were entering a new golden age.
  • But, instead of a new golden age, it was all a giant hallucination. Jordan Travis and the timing of the Portal's emergence was the perfect storm, and now they truly are a damaged and destroyed program as a result.
  • I'm pretty sure the answer for FSU is not Manny, it's Deion. With his branding, recruiting prowess, history with the program, etc., he could bring them back sooner rather than later. His excitement could get their donors to put in new money. But, since they're caught in a cycle of mismanagement like we were in for years, they'll probably hire Manny... or hire Lane after the Tigah's fire him in 3 years.
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They can't afford Lane, his staff, and a buyout of Prison Mike.
 
filmcane said:
Oh, I don't have any delusions regarding Deion and I am a Cane through and through and love seeing them suffer after their fanbase showed who they are the last few years. But, as a CFB fan and a member of the ACC, FSU getting better would make that W look better. And, I do think that Deion is gettable as opposed to other coaches who might be able to come in and rescue them.

Manny or Deion are there only realistic choices for resurrection at the moment and a few annual Canes vs Noles clashes with Deion talking trash as he takes on Mario, would definitely bring eyeballs and increase our own branding.
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That's fair, I still think they could do better than those two actually. They punting the season basically for that reason alone, let's see if their gamble will pay off or nah.

UF came in this year swinging for the top dogs and ended getting a guy with a similar resume than the one who they fired (and I like Sumrall tbh).
 
filmcane said:
Right before they got crushed by UGA (and Beck), they were 13-0 and must've thought that Norvell had built a machine to last for decades. Prison Mike really did hit it just right and caught lightning in a bottle:
  • To his credit, he struck gold in the portal before the other players caught on. As much as we make fun of him, I do tip my cap for that. He mitigated his weakness (Recruiting and development) and found a huge opportunity in the portal.
  • He had a (for FSU) generational QB who was not only a playmaker, but was also very twitchy so he could mask not the greatest OL for FSU. BTW, elite QB's aren't everything, but they really do make the difference.
    • As an example, Dabo did a great job in multiple areas when he had his run, but the true difference maker was having 2 great QB's in a row, then a good QB, who he then replaced with the best QB he ever had (Sunshine). Then, although he's had two 5 star QB's in a row, neither of them panned out like the other QB's and low and behold, the game has "passed him by".
  • The Noles were so desperate to regain the Jameis "He actually is a rapist...that's real, BTW" Winston years, that when they had those two 10 win seasons, they thought they were entering a new golden age.
  • But, instead of a new golden age, it was all a giant hallucination. Jordan Travis and the timing of the Portal's emergence was the perfect storm, and now they truly are a damaged and destroyed program as a result.
  • I'm pretty sure the answer for FSU is not Manny, it's Deion. With his branding, recruiting prowess, history with the program, etc., he could bring them back sooner rather than later. His excitement could get their donors to put in new money. But, since they're caught in a cycle of mismanagement like we were in for years, they'll probably hire Manny... or hire Lane after the Tigah's fire him in 3 years.
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What donors?

They already tried this last year to get rid of Norvell and guess what they got in return? Donors that were like:

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Any team that has donors that would step up has already done it

The window for that to happen was from 2022-2025 (even 2025 would be far behind the curve)

Anyone that didn’t do it got left behind

FSU is cooked. Done. Deceased. Dead program.

(I get what you mean about Deion at least bringing some excitement to them though it wouldn’t last)
 
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MedleyCane said:
Deion has had some serious health issues. Would he be willing to undertake the FSU job?
That's a program that will need some serious work.
Also, seeing that it is a state school with big alumna base, I am surprised at the level of poverty.
So much for being an SECish school.
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Have you ever tried to communicate with their "alumna"?

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filmcane said:
Right before they got crushed by UGA (and Beck), they were 13-0 and must've thought that Norvell had built a machine to last for decades. Prison Mike really did hit it just right and caught lightning in a bottle:
  • To his credit, he struck gold in the portal before the other players caught on. As much as we make fun of him, I do tip my cap for that. He mitigated his weakness (Recruiting and development) and found a huge opportunity in the portal.
  • He had a (for FSU) generational QB who was not only a playmaker, but was also very twitchy so he could mask not the greatest OL for FSU. BTW, elite QB's aren't everything, but they really do make the difference.
    • As an example, Dabo did a great job in multiple areas when he had his run, but the true difference maker was having 2 great QB's in a row, then a good QB, who he then replaced with the best QB he ever had (Sunshine). Then, although he's had two 5 star QB's in a row, neither of them panned out like the other QB's and low and behold, the game has "passed him by".
  • The Noles were so desperate to regain the Jameis "He actually is a rapist...that's real, BTW" Winston years, that when they had those two 10 win seasons, they thought they were entering a new golden age.
  • But, instead of a new golden age, it was all a giant hallucination. Jordan Travis and the timing of the Portal's emergence was the perfect storm, and now they truly are a damaged and destroyed program as a result.
  • I'm pretty sure the answer for FSU is not Manny, it's Deion. With his branding, recruiting prowess, history with the program, etc., he could bring them back sooner rather than later. His excitement could get their donors to put in new money. But, since they're caught in a cycle of mismanagement like we were in for years, they'll probably hire Manny... or hire Lane after the Tigah's fire him in 3 years.
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Do any nole alumni have any $$?
 
ssvir said:
They spent $140M on a football facility and $265M on Doak "improvements".

Also spent another $25M on other athletic buildings.

They are broke but they are also getting long term assets out of the spending.
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"If you build it, they will come."

FSU: "We built it, but they aren't coming."

"I was talking about the team itself, you idiots."
 
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