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I do not agree with that at all. That guy is an elite coach. Look at his history, he has been good at his craft. At least we will have a defensive identity. However, for me, I have and always will want an offensive coach. In South Florida if you had an elite offensive coach you could AGAIN, change the landscape of College football. The pro set is even dead in the league, look a the Pats yesterday, they aired it out all day long. It is just the progression of football. I say go hard after any coach that has shown he can coach offense. I like the guy at Houston, Memphis, or even a Leach. But I think he would not be a great fit of the area. But I want a guy like that, that just plays fast, effective offense. There are plenty of players on this team right now, and there is even more in the area coming out to consistently create a powerhouse program, we just need someone who can turn them into the players we need because they have an identity, and they know the kind of player they are looking for. Look how good Clemson does with just a few guys from the area that fit what they do, or when UL did the same thing with some local guys.

A few things (just on Brent V or any college coordinator with zero HC experience):

1. There is no proof he is an elite HC. He has never been a HC. He does a good job coaching a defense but there is much more to it when coaching the whole team. You know who else were elite coordinators? Randy Shannon and Will Muschamp. Both failed when given the HC gig. Does this mean that all **** college coordinators will fail? No. But there is clearly a risk. Miami should be looking to minimize the risk. We don't need the guy to learn how to be an HC at Miami.

2. It appears there is a new trend in college football and coaches. **** coordinators are going to inferior ranks to get their teeth wet.

Herman (Houston), Montgomery (Tulsa) and Morris (SMU) were all named as first time HC last year alone. I am sure, if they wanted to wait, someone like Pitt (with Nard Dawg) would come along and snatch them up without any HC experience. But perhaps, they want to go coach with the big boys. Perhaps they want to get some experience first because there is a lot to learn.

Fuente also did the same thing.

Look at Harbaugh, Briles, Meyer, Patterson and Sumlin. All coached at inferior programs (non BCS) before going to the Power 5. I don't see why this isn't the way to go unless Miami wants to really go get someone like Kelly.

3. As for the Pro Set v. Any Formation, I don't care. Just ***ing win games. Considering Brent V has no offensive identity, having never coached it, why does it matter?

I agree with you on Coordinatiors. I am not all for Venebles but he has coached for a long time under some high quality coaches.

But as for your number 2, AG was just that guy, a coordinator who got his teeth wet, and had moderate success at a lower level school. SO there is still that risk involved as well.

I am completely with you on number three. I do not care anymore. I do not want to try to reinvent 1999, I want to win. I want to dominate. I want to talk tons and tons of **** to my friends again!!!! So lets go CANES get this done with the right guy!!!!!
 
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I have zero problem with anything you said. Much rather have a proven commodity. Especially with where we are right now and how crucial this hire is. But other than Chip Kelly excluding who Dmoney excluded in his question nobody really thrills me. I do think Jim Schwartz would be a potential great hire if he had any interest in the college game.

How about Mike Smith if you want to go the NFL route?
 
I agree with you on Coordinatiors. I am not all for Venebles but he has coached for a long time under some high quality coaches.

But as for your number 2, AG was just that guy, a coordinator who got his teeth wet, and had moderate success at a lower level school. SO there is still that risk involved as well.

I am completely with you on number three. I do not care anymore. I do not want to try to reinvent 1999, I want to win. I want to dominate. I want to talk tons and tons of **** to my friends again!!!! So lets go CANES get this done with the right guy!!!!!

Do you see the difference between what Fuente accomplished and what Golden accomplished?

There is a big difference.
 
Mark Trestman ....... great offensive mind and you know he will have support from one influential alum and BOT member -- Bernie Kosar
 
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Not a super fan of Chud. I just do not think he would do a great job running a college program. I think the difference between the college and pro systems would be too much for him, recruiting, classes, behavior type stuff, I don't think he would be into that after spending so much time in the league. I feel that way about most coaches who make it to the league, they are happy to get away from the recruiting and all that high school type drama that comes with the college game. Maybe not, but its my feeling.

I am all for Butch.

No thanks on Mario, just for the way he left. And he seems like a douche.

Love the idea of the UH or Memphis guys. Great offenses that will attract elite talent from so fla

Not sure Schiano would do as well when he is in the middle of south fla. In Rutgers there is a lot less stress with local coaches etc. When you get kids from down here and then they maybe do not play right away it can become toxic fast. Not sure Schiano would get a fair shake locally. Too much risk for me...
 
I have zero problem with anything you said. Much rather have a proven commodity. Especially with where we are right now and how crucial this hire is. But other than Chip Kelly excluding who Dmoney excluded in his question nobody really thrills me. I do think Jim Schwartz would be a potential great hire if he had any interest in the college game.

How about Mike Smith if you want to go the NFL route?

Mike Smith is the leader if some of the softest NFL teams I ever seen, no thanks
 
Hue Jackson, Josh mcdaniels, and DJ Durkin

Not sure he would be interested in the college game. But he is innovative. I would surely take a chance on him if he was interested. But I just think he would bolt in 2-3 years if he had success. And then we are at point A again....
 
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Hue Jackson, Josh mcdaniels, and DJ Durkin

Not sure he would be interested in the college game. But he is innovative. I would surely take a chance on him if he was interested. But I just think he would bolt in 2-3 years if he had success. And then we are at point A again....

He was a GA for one year, I doubt he wants to go to college again. He will get an HC gig soon.
 
Please let me know why Stoops is an attractive candidate for Miami.
This. He's done nothing of note at Kentucky. Win a big game, win your conference. Don't care if he's in the SEC, it's his third year and I see nothing notable. I was high on him early in the year expecting to see big results but it never happened
 
I don't mind Hue Jackson, although not my first choice.

Hue, like McDaniels, will be up for an NFL HC gig soon.
 
Hue Jackson, Josh mcdaniels, and DJ Durkin

Not sure he would be interested in the college game. But he is innovative. I would surely take a chance on him if he was interested. But I just think he would bolt in 2-3 years if he had success. And then we are at point A again....

I have no problem with McDaniels doing the **** thing for 3-5 years then bolting if he has success
 
Please let me know why Stoops is an attractive candidate for Miami.
This. He's done nothing of note at Kentucky. Win a big game, win your conference. Don't care if he's in the SEC, it's his third year and I see nothing notable. I was high on him early in the year expecting to see big results but it never happened

I love that logic, it is Kentucky so give him credit. So what? Other coaches have won 9 games at Kentucky. Let's see him get some degree of success first.
 
Hue Jackson, Josh mcdaniels, and DJ Durkin

Not sure he would be interested in the college game. But he is innovative. I would surely take a chance on him if he was interested. But I just think he would bolt in 2-3 years if he had success. And then we are at point A again....
We would be so lucky to get a guy that will bolt to the NFL after winning here. I don't like lifers, it's rare to get a Gary Patterson. Give me the coach that wants to make it to the NFL and will get us a national championship and I will be happy.
 
Hue Jackson, Josh mcdaniels, and DJ Durkin

Not sure he would be interested in the college game. But he is innovative. I would surely take a chance on him if he was interested. But I just think he would bolt in 2-3 years if he had success. And then we are at point A again....

I have no problem with McDaniels doing the **** thing for 3-5 years then bolting if he has success

There will always be more coaches. Success is a good thing. You want your coaches to be wanted.
 
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I have zero problem with anything you said. Much rather have a proven commodity. Especially with where we are right now and how crucial this hire is. But other than Chip Kelly excluding who Dmoney excluded in his question nobody really thrills me. I do think Jim Schwartz would be a potential great hire if he had any interest in the college game.

How about Mike Smith if you want to go the NFL route?
Other than his name not a fan. Always viewed him as soft. Jmo. You could do worse tho.
 
Some of you have to understand, though Miami isn't the poor house that some would make it out to be, it is also nothing in comparison to the small fiefdoms that some of these coaches are the heads of around the country. Bob Stoops ain't never left Oklahoma and he never will unless somebody pays him far more than he's worth. Guys that wanna come to Mjamj at this point are dudes with a chip on their shoulder and something to prove and know that they could win huge here, whether they wanted to make it a permanent landing spot, or they had their eye on bigger fish.

Guys like Stoops, or GP, or Briles, or D'Antonio, or Malzahn have already accomplished stuff in the sport. It'd take a truck load of money to get em.

Thing is, we don't need em. Just pick up one of these hot shot dudes that is more than ready to go get it at Miami.
 
Please let me know why Stoops is an attractive candidate for Miami.
This. He's done nothing of note at Kentucky. Win a big game, win your conference. Don't care if he's in the SEC, it's his third year and I see nothing notable. I was high on him early in the year expecting to see big results but it never happened

I'll answer. I'm not a HUGE Stoops guy but he intrigues me. Kentucky is arguably the worst power 5 football team in the country. His first season was bad but has markedly improved that team to 6-7 wins in the first 3 years. His recruiting classes at UK have also been the best ever at Kentucky and have averaged in the top 30 the past couple seasons.

Not sure how much too expect at Kentucky. What intrigues me is who he's surrounded himself with at UK - he has a Hologran/Mumme disciple as OC and he has an FSU guy as DC.
 
Im not completely off the Mario train

the biggest argument people seem to have against it is that he is a traitor and limited experience....

that being said, I would be intrigued by Hue Jackson or Doc Holliday
 
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