Feds slowly chipping away at College Bribery and Fraud.

TemplarCane

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You are 100% correct. There really is no difference, but the reason they are coming down on them is because they cut out the school making the profit.

When a billionaire drops 30-40 million on buildings for a school over the years and then gets their son accepted. That is one thing. It's between Billionaires and the school. You will never see Frost getting in trouble for his granddaughter getting preferential treatment regarding admissions.

When B list celebs worth 10-20 mill drop 50-100k to some middle man(and the school sees no profit) that is when it gets busted because it is between millionaires, non revenue sports coaches, and some other semi high level people related to the school.
Not quite.

In this scandal academics and athletic achievements were falsified. Fraudulent SAT test scores were submitted. Bribes were paid to admissions staff and coaches to accept these records . A fake non-profit was created to provide illegal tax deductions. All of these are activities are serious crime.

There is nothing illegal about a university accepting a student as a legacy, or if the family is a wealthy donor.
 

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Private institutions receive federal tax dollars for any number of initiatives. The federal government can place any number of contingencies to receive these funds. Title IX compliance, for example.
 

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One of the convicted gave $400,000 over 8 years ($50,000 per year) to the University, and their child was NOT accepted to the school. That was their motivation to do what they did.

God forbid they just don't use that money for tutors. The kid must have been extremely handicapped mentally
 

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Not quite.

In this scandal academics and athletic achievements were falsified. Fraudulent SAT test scores were submitted. Bribes were paid to admissions staff and coaches to accept these records . A fake non-profit was created to provide illegal tax deductions. All of these are activities are serious crime.

There is nothing illegal about a university accepting a student as a legacy, or if the family is a wealthy donor.
That is the point I was making. The billionaires and high ups in the schools have the means to get these kids in without actually getting into any legal trouble.

These upper middle class people are trying to move in on their racket and are trying to get kids in on the "cheap". If these families were willing to pay the "full price" and donate a building directly to the school they would be in the clear.
 

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Private institutions receive federal tax dollars for any number of initiatives. The federal government can place any number of contingencies to receive these funds. Title IX compliance, for example.
They pull the same thing with healthcare via CMS. They fined a bunch of hospitals for implanting defibrillators in patients for cases that didn't have FDA approval. Problem is the sample size is so small they can't do a study to approve it. Needless to say, they got sued and no more fines.

Yet in a twist of irony they can't deprive funds from a state that refuses to comply with federal law.
 
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The real tragedy here is that if they were basketball or football players they would be removed from the school. They wouldn’t be able to continue their education.

I’m betting that none of these kids are kicked out of school.
Great fucking point
 

No_Fly_Zone

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The guy from the article who said this is so funny that he deserves a Netflix comedy special.

“They chose to corrupt and illegally manipulate the system,’’ Lelling said of the parents. “There can be no separate college admissions system for the wealthy.
Lelling is engaging in intellectually dishonest grandstanding because he's politically ambitious and sees an opportunity to be perceived as some sort of egalitarian, class warfare hero. This is the same clown who started including the (unlawful) immigration status of individual defendants in his office's press releases, regardless of what they were actually being prosecuted for. The guy has his eyes on something bigger.
 

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WTF? since when does government get to tell private instiutions how to decide who to admit? If fraud was conducted, that’s a different issue. But colleges are free to admit wealthy people, poor people ... whoever.
Affirmative Action.
 

TemplarCane

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That is the point I was making. The billionaires and high ups in the schools have the means to get these kids in without actually getting into any legal trouble.

These upper middle class people are trying to move in on their racket and are trying to get kids in on the "cheap". If these families were willing to pay the "full price" and donate a building directly to the school they would be in the clear.
Got it. Thanks for clarifying.
 

TemplarCane

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For our interest in the Feds nailing the Bag Game, a bigger scandal, to me anyway, is football factory programs running off ‘student athletes’ failing to develop into stars in order to open up a scholarship.
 

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Remember Kelley Williams-Bolar? She was convicted of using the wrong residence to get her daughters into a better school district in Ohio than underperforming Akron. She was sentenced to 3 years & ordered to pay $30,000 to the school district. The governor granted clemency but she did serve some time. For ‘tampering with goverment documents’, I recall.

I wonder what sentence these parental icons will incur?

Disclaimer: comments plagiarized from someone else’s tweet.
 
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dsddcane

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No they aren't. They're cracking down on puppets. Puppets are easily replaced. Honestly I really doubt they ever try to touch the real people behind this stuff. Some closets simply ain't worth digging into.
 
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