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ESPN predicts Miami 11-1 for 2017

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reg said:
407cane;2898183[B said:
]Mark may hated Miami. So did Lou holtz
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ESPN always gives us too much credit and we blow it the last ten years , I don't think ESPN hates us at all. They always hype us up when we're doing well, 2013 etc. We just haven't done anything to prove ourselves so of course outsiders will doubt the program

The first sign of good news they always give high praise, which is why such good praise since richt hire

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You can't be serious thinking that the ESPN is not anti-biased towards Miami. Also, Holtz and May were just two of many idiots at ESPN that constantly bash Miami.

Scott Van Pelt- “Here’s the word Miami should focus on: reality. The easiest thing for the Canes and their fans to do is throw up the U as if it means anything now. It does not. It’s a hollow gesture that reminds them of a time they mattered….”

Paul Finebaum- “I think Miami is just an absolutely terrible job. This program is bankrupt. It has a delusional fan base thinking this is the ’80s and the ’90s and maybe even the early part of the new millennium. I don’t get it. I don’t know why any coach in their right mind would want this job. They’re living in the past with no future. I don’t think it’s a better job than UCF.”
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Don't find anything wrong with what SVP said. Miami hasn't done anything. How many times has opposing teams thrown up the U up side down? I mean **** thanks to golden Miami is going to play [MENTION=13732]Dev[/MENTION]ry university.

Fine aim quote is a different story. Program only appears bankrupt is because the school use not out money into the program and any competent coach can win at Miami with the high caliber talent it has.
 
Cane Dynasty said:
Awsi Dooger said:
Novacane32000 said:
Those percentages are based off the expected Vegas lines for those games. So if Vegas has made you a 10 pt fav then historically that team has won the game say 70% of the time.

Based off those percentages on the link, we have a 1.4% chance of going undefeated.

If we beat FSU (and the lines stay the same for the remaining games) our chances of winning the remaining games jumps to 7.8%

Based off those numbers , the Vegas over/under for wins will probably be 9 games which is actually pretty good since you will not see many teams with a much better O/U number.
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Very good post. You have the correct perspective. The vast majority of posters on forums like this have little clue. They'll see 3 point projected favoritism in every game and act like the oddsmakers are expecting us to go undefeated.

A 10 point favorite in college football is actually closer to 77% than 70% win likelihood. Here is a link that breaks it down well:

https://www.boydsbets.com/college-football-spread-to-moneyline-conversion/

In the NFL it is higher than 77%. College favorites are not as reliable to win the game as pro favorites. Considerably greater dispersion from spread to actual result. That's why teasers are laughable poor value in college football. We used to restrain snickers behind the sportsbook counter whenever somebody was making college football teaser bets.

I normally cite money lines around here as how the season win over/unders are derived. Naturally the conventional wisdom types don't like that. They envision a big secretive brain trust in which every conceivable player and matchup and variable is deciphered. Hilarious. I've seen posts about the good old days on some other forum, a decade or more ago. Good thing I wasn't there at the time or I would have effortlessly deflected all the garbage at that point. Basically that type of thinking had a free undeserved reign of ignorance.

Since most people who don't bet sports are unfamiliar with money lines (-260...+220) and how they vary from sport to sport, the projected win percentage is probably a better reference point on forums like this. When a sportsbook is assigning the season win over/unders they'll translate the spread into a percentage for each game and then feed those percentages into a formula to spit out the projected wins and therefore the over under. Let's say the win expectancy is 60% each time among the first 5 games. That ESPN link and the way it was authored would assert, "Projected Record: 5-0." Meanwhile, the betting over/under among those 5 games would be 3-2.
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You literally are the biggest blow hard on the interwebs

You talk all kinds of schit about how smart you are and how "the vast majority of posters here....."

But not once...not one single time have you EVER given a pick before a game was played.

You are always ready to come and tell everyone how you knew everything after the fact.

NEVER have you given a prognostication...undeservedly pompus ****. You think the average guy here doesn't know what the fvck a money line is? You old fvck


I can't wait to meet you one day. I'll give you a real prognostication.
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Well done Cane Dynasty - thank you for continuing to call this asshat out!
 
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reg said:
According to insidetheu, ESPN has Miami going 11-1 with the lone loss coming from F$U. I'm personally not the biggest fan of neither ESPN nor percentages. However, considering ESPN's hate towards The U, I'm a bit shocked that they are predicting us to have such a great season. Every now and then, even the Haters have to show respect!

ESPN Game-by-Game Predictions For Miami Hurricanes Football's 2017 Season
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Oh gawd... kiss of death. 11-1? With an untested true Freshman QB? Please..sometimes I feel like ESPN does this on purpose to set the goal so high that we can't help but be disappointed. Best case scenario IMO, is 9 regular season wins.
 
Keep the attention off us as much as possible. Dont want any praise. These fellas gotta earn it again this year
 
Island_Canes said:
reg said:
According to insidetheu, ESPN has Miami going 11-1 with the lone loss coming from F$U. I'm personally not the biggest fan of neither ESPN nor percentages. However, considering ESPN's hate towards The U, I'm a bit shocked that they are predicting us to have such a great season. Every now and then, even the Haters have to show respect!

ESPN Game-by-Game Predictions For Miami Hurricanes Football's 2017 Season
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Oh gawd... kiss of death. 11-1? With an untested true Freshman QB? Please..sometimes I feel like ESPN does this on purpose to set the goal so high that we can't help but be disappointed. Best case scenario IMO, is 9 regular season wins.
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Have to agree ---- 9 to 10 wins --- with the expectation we get to the ACC title game and lose in a close one ..... which creates the motivation for the next year
 
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nystateofmind said:
reg said:
Scott Van Pelt- “Here’s the word Miami should focus on: reality. The easiest thing for the Canes and their fans to do is throw up the U as if it means anything now. It does not. It’s a hollow gesture that reminds them of a time they mattered….”
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I believe he said that after the Clemson game and he was right. We haven't mattered nationally in 12 years. When we're a Top 10 team year in and year out - winning conference titles and NY6 Bowl Games - then we'll matter.

As for this year, with the schedule we have, anything less than 10-2 and a Coastal title is a massive failure. Really 11-1 should be our floor but the uncertainty at QB might cost us a game.
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The Van Pelt quote is not being used in the correct context here either. I saw the entire segment where he said that. He used it to reference Miami "fans" throwing up the U and pounding their chests every year but conveniently forgetting to show up to home games. Let's be real, there are/were a bunch of delusional people in this fan base who rep the U everywhere they go and shout "we back!" anytime there's a perceived positive in the program only to shut it down and give up on the team as soon as they lose a game.
 
Considering we were a few breaks/non-bullchit-calls from 11 wins LY, I don't think it's unrealistic.
UNC phantom TD, recover the fumble at ND, make the XP vs FSU, or no phantom holding on Waltons run and I like our chances of winning those games.

All I'm really comfortable in predicting is that if the defense plays all season like they did vs WVU there's gonna be some serious ***-kicking going on that side of the ball.
 
westcoastcanes said:
We are the talent favorite in 10 games
we are a coin flip talent match in one game
we are at a talent deficit in one game

Prediction:

Definite wins - (5-0)
Vs Bethune
@ Ark State
Vs Toledo
@ Duke
Vs Virginia

Probable wins - (2-1)
Vs Georgia Tech
Vs Syracuse
@ Pitt

Coin flips - (2-1)
@ UNC
Vs VaTech
Vs Notre Dame

Probable loss - (0-1)
@ FSU

Regular season - (9-3)

Win a bowl game, get first 10 win season in a long time
2018 we get serious playoff contender discussion with a returning experienced QB and tons of returning talent.

We are one more year away.
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We should be favored against UNC, VT and ND this year. Those shouldn't be coin flip games.
 
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Cane Dynasty said:
Awsi Dooger said:
Novacane32000 said:
Those percentages are based off the expected Vegas lines for those games. So if Vegas has made you a 10 pt fav then historically that team has won the game say 70% of the time.

Based off those percentages on the link, we have a 1.4% chance of going undefeated.

If we beat FSU (and the lines stay the same for the remaining games) our chances of winning the remaining games jumps to 7.8%

Based off those numbers , the Vegas over/under for wins will probably be 9 games which is actually pretty good since you will not see many teams with a much better O/U number.
Click to expand...

Very good post. You have the correct perspective. The vast majority of posters on forums like this have little clue. They'll see 3 point projected favoritism in every game and act like the oddsmakers are expecting us to go undefeated.

A 10 point favorite in college football is actually closer to 77% than 70% win likelihood. Here is a link that breaks it down well:

https://www.boydsbets.com/college-football-spread-to-moneyline-conversion/

In the NFL it is higher than 77%. College favorites are not as reliable to win the game as pro favorites. Considerably greater dispersion from spread to actual result. That's why teasers are laughable poor value in college football. We used to restrain snickers behind the sportsbook counter whenever somebody was making college football teaser bets.

I normally cite money lines around here as how the season win over/unders are derived. Naturally the conventional wisdom types don't like that. They envision a big secretive brain trust in which every conceivable player and matchup and variable is deciphered. Hilarious. I've seen posts about the good old days on some other forum, a decade or more ago. Good thing I wasn't there at the time or I would have effortlessly deflected all the garbage at that point. Basically that type of thinking had a free undeserved reign of ignorance.

Since most people who don't bet sports are unfamiliar with money lines (-260...+220) and how they vary from sport to sport, the projected win percentage is probably a better reference point on forums like this. When a sportsbook is assigning the season win over/unders they'll translate the spread into a percentage for each game and then feed those percentages into a formula to spit out the projected wins and therefore the over under. Let's say the win expectancy is 60% each time among the first 5 games. That ESPN link and the way it was authored would assert, "Projected Record: 5-0." Meanwhile, the betting over/under among those 5 games would be 3-2.
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You literally are the biggest blow hard on the interwebs

You talk all kinds of schit about how smart you are and how "the vast majority of posters here....."

But not once...not one single time have you EVER given a pick before a game was played.

You are always ready to come and tell everyone how you knew everything after the fact.

NEVER have you given a prognostication...undeservedly pompus ****. You think the average guy here doesn't know what the fvck a money line is? You old fvck


I can't wait to meet you one day. I'll give you a real prognostication.
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No one gives a better prediction after a game than Assy Booger.
 
The Franchise said:
westcoastcanes said:
We are the talent favorite in 10 games
we are a coin flip talent match in one game
we are at a talent deficit in one game

Prediction:

Definite wins - (5-0)
Vs Bethune
@ Ark State
Vs Toledo
@ Duke
Vs Virginia

Probable wins - (2-1)
Vs Georgia Tech
Vs Syracuse
@ Pitt

Coin flips - (2-1)
@ UNC
Vs VaTech
Vs Notre Dame

Probable loss - (0-1)
@ FSU

Regular season - (9-3)

Win a bowl game, get first 10 win season in a long time
2018 we get serious playoff contender discussion with a returning experienced QB and tons of returning talent.

We are one more year away.
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We should be favored against UNC, VT and ND this year. Those shouldn't be coin flip games.
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Oh i don't disagree that we should be favored, but with losses to them last year and a new QB coming in (I know they are getting new QB's also) I could see us losing any of the three easier than everyone that isn't FSU. I suppose if I am predicting 2/3 wins in that group the whole group could be combined with the probable wins group above it with a 4-2 group record. I just consider them a marginally lower % chance than the probable win group.

If i were to make 12 separate bets in one game seasons on this schedule I would put money on Miami in 11 of the 12.
 
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Ghost666 said:
Who the **** is Toldeo?
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Fat, ****** former coach of UCLA and Tulane

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