ESPN predicts Miami 11-1 for 2017

Scott Van Pelt- “Here’s the word Miami should focus on: reality. The easiest thing for the Canes and their fans to do is throw up the U as if it means anything now. It does not. It’s a hollow gesture that reminds them of a time they mattered….”

I believe he said that after the Clemson game and he was right. We haven't mattered nationally in 12 years. When we're a Top 10 team year in and year out - winning conference titles and NY6 Bowl Games - then we'll matter.

As for this year, with the schedule we have, anything less than 10-2 and a Coastal title is a massive failure. Really 11-1 should be our floor but the uncertainty at QB might cost us a game.

Saying we didn't matter at the time and trashing our logo - fandom are 2 totally different things.

His fackin Turtles do all kinds of stupid **** gestures and have never mattered in the first place. I can't stand that big fackin dork and hope when Jim Nantz steps down he gets the shaft for Masters coverage *** he has kissed holy *** all these years to succeed him.

UM
 
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11-1 with loss to FSU in regular season but then we avenge the loss in ACC ship & make our first playoff. All with true freshman sensation N'Kosi Perry at the helm.
 
If we continue to get hosed by ACC refs, it won't matter. Every year they find a new way to stick it to us. We need to really beat everyone down and not let them have a chance to kill us with a crappy holding call that takes away yet another Mark Walton touchdown. We need to be the Miami they thought we were going to be when we joined the ACC.
 
Mark may hated Miami. So did Lou holtz

ESPN always gives us too much credit and we blow it the last ten years , I don't think ESPN hates us at all. They always hype us up when we're doing well, 2013 etc. We just haven't done anything to prove ourselves so of course outsiders will doubt the program

The first sign of good news they always give high praise, which is why such good praise since richt hire

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This right here. espn mostly sucks, but they don't hate us. They are the first ones on the bandwagon if it looks like there's even a chance of us being decent and they push that "is the U back" sht every single year. There have been years when I wished they'd slow their roll a bit with how they talk about the team.
 
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We are the talent favorite in 10 games
we are a coin flip talent match in one game
we are at a talent deficit in one game

Prediction:

Definite wins - (5-0)
Vs Bethune
@ Ark State
Vs Toledo
@ Duke
Vs Virginia

Probable wins - (2-1)
Vs Georgia Tech
Vs Syracuse
@ Pitt

Coin flips - (2-1)
@ UNC
Vs VaTech
Vs Notre Dame

Probable loss - (0-1)
@ FSU

Regular season - (9-3)

Win a bowl game, get first 10 win season in a long time
2018 we get serious playoff contender discussion with a returning experienced QB and tons of returning talent.

We are one more year away.

if @ Duke is a sure win, i think at home vs Syracuse would qualify as well.
 
If you look only at percentages they have us at 11-1, yet they outright picked us to go 9-3 lol the hate will never die.

They might have us as favorites in 11 games but if you add up the % it only comes out to 9 regular season wins. If Miami had a 40% of beating FSU and a 78% chance of beating each of the other 11 opponents it comes out to 9-3. (.78 x 11=8.6, 8.6+ 0.4=9)
 
If you look only at percentages they have us at 11-1, yet they outright picked us to go 9-3 lol the hate will never die.

They might have us as favorites in 11 games but if you add up the % it only comes out to 9 regular season wins. If Miami had a 40% of beating FSU and a 78% chance of beating each of the other 11 opponents it comes out to 9-3. (.78 x 11=8.6, 8.6+ 0.4=9)

Thanks dude... take that for data
 
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What if we went 1-11 with the only win over FSU? Would you take that over 11-1 with a loss to FSU?

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Those percentages are based off the expected Vegas lines for those games. So if Vegas has made you a 10 pt fav then historically that team has won the game say 70% of the time.

Based off those percentages on the link, we have a 1.4% chance of going undefeated.

If we beat FSU (and the lines stay the same for the remaining games) our chances of winning the remaining games jumps to 7.8%

Based off those numbers , the Vegas over/under for wins will probably be 9 games which is actually pretty good since you will not see many teams with a much better O/U number.

Very good post. You have the correct perspective. The vast majority of posters on forums like this have little clue. They'll see 3 point projected favoritism in every game and act like the oddsmakers are expecting us to go undefeated.

A 10 point favorite in college football is actually closer to 77% than 70% win likelihood. Here is a link that breaks it down well:

https://www.boydsbets.com/college-football-spread-to-moneyline-conversion/

In the NFL it is higher than 77%. College favorites are not as reliable to win the game as pro favorites. Considerably greater dispersion from spread to actual result. That's why teasers are laughable poor value in college football. We used to restrain snickers behind the sportsbook counter whenever somebody was making college football teaser bets.

I normally cite money lines around here as how the season win over/unders are derived. Naturally the conventional wisdom types don't like that. They envision a big secretive brain trust in which every conceivable player and matchup and variable is deciphered. Hilarious. I've seen posts about the good old days on some other forum, a decade or more ago. Good thing I wasn't there at the time or I would have effortlessly deflected all the garbage at that point. Basically that type of thinking had a free undeserved reign of ignorance.

Since most people who don't bet sports are unfamiliar with money lines (-260...+220) and how they vary from sport to sport, the projected win percentage is probably a better reference point on forums like this. When a sportsbook is assigning the season win over/unders they'll translate the spread into a percentage for each game and then feed those percentages into a formula to spit out the projected wins and therefore the over under. Let's say the win expectancy is 60% each time among the first 5 games. That ESPN link and the way it was authored would assert, "Projected Record: 5-0." Meanwhile, the betting over/under among those 5 games would be 3-2.
 
11-1 with loss to FSU in regular season but then we avenge the loss in ACC ship & make our first playoff. All with true freshman sensation N'Kosi Perry at the helm.

FSU is not winning the Atlantic this year.

So if we make the ACC title game, it won't be against them.
 
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If you look only at percentages they have us at 11-1, yet they outright picked us to go 9-3 lol the hate will never die.

They might have us as favorites in 11 games but if you add up the % it only comes out to 9 regular season wins. If Miami had a 40% of beating FSU and a 78% chance of beating each of the other 11 opponents it comes out to 9-3. (.78 x 11=8.6, 8.6+ 0.4=9)



Yes, but the same math would tell you that if we played 10 games where we had a 90% chance to win (which is what our winning odds are against Arkansas State and Toledo), then we should only go 9-1.

Here's the reality. The F$U game is the only regular season I could tolerate losing (on road, big rival, chance to avenge loss in ACC-CG).

Any other losses next year will have to have a massive explanatory factor (big injuries, horrible penalty/turnover disparity, etc.).
 
I think Pitt will be much better than anyone thinks, especially if Max Browne lives up to his #1 QB Ranking coming out of HS now that he will be the starter.

I believe we might have the best defense in the ACC, and without a doubt a top 15 defense in the country. We have a great RB, and some top WR talent, especially after these freshman come in. At the end of the day this season is going to come down to QB and OL. We have every reason to believe the OL will be improved. But the question is will they be improved enough???
Had Kaaya come back, I think there'd be no doubt in my mind a 1 loss finish would actually be the most likely outcome. But when you are breaking in a new (potentially/Most likely A TRUE Frosh) a lot of close games can easily turn into L's. Hopefully Our OL is vastly improved and allowes our QB to have ample time in the pocket. We have a championship defense. Lets hope our OL plays at a championship caliber, otherwise 11-1 seems unreaslistic.
 
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11-1 with loss to FSU in regular season but then we avenge the loss in ACC ship & make our first playoff. All with true freshman sensation N'Kosi Perry at the helm.

FSU is not winning the Atlantic this year.

So if we make the ACC title game, it won't be against them.

who do u think will? Louisville?

Clemson or Louisville.

Jimbo always manages to lose a game or two he should win. It's weird because he's an excellent recruiter and a solid play caller but for some reason his teams always seem to lose 1-2 games a year to inferior opponents.

Look at their talent the last few years. They were better than Oregon in '14 when they got massacred in the Rose Bowl. '15 was a rebuild but they lost to a 3-9 Georgia Tech team. And then last year there's no way he should've lost 3 games with the team he had. That should've been a playoff team.

He needed a Heisman winner and one of the most talented rosters of all time to win a Natty and even then he only won because Auburn choked it away.

So while Louisville has questions on defense and Clemson is losing a ton of guys to the pros, I'd still take them over FSU.
 
Man fck this one loss to FSU talk. Those f ags barely beat us last year and our QB played like he had prison shackles on his feet.

They actually scored one less TD than us but you know how ACC referees are....infckingcompetent

They lost arguably the best RB in the college football but somehow they're going to beat us? Fck that! Our front 7 will eat them alive and go.d **** with or without a qb Walton and our top WR's will get theirs. I dont care if we have to kick 6 field goals...WE'RE NOT LOSING TO FSU

If we go 11-1 is because we'll be over confident and lose to Pitt or some dumb **** like that. But we ain't losing to those *** gobblers in trailerhasee this year.
 
Those percentages are based off the expected Vegas lines for those games. So if Vegas has made you a 10 pt fav then historically that team has won the game say 70% of the time.

Based off those percentages on the link, we have a 1.4% chance of going undefeated.

If we beat FSU (and the lines stay the same for the remaining games) our chances of winning the remaining games jumps to 7.8%

Based off those numbers , the Vegas over/under for wins will probably be 9 games which is actually pretty good since you will not see many teams with a much better O/U number.

Very good post. You have the correct perspective. The vast majority of posters on forums like this have little clue. They'll see 3 point projected favoritism in every game and act like the oddsmakers are expecting us to go undefeated.

A 10 point favorite in college football is actually closer to 77% than 70% win likelihood. Here is a link that breaks it down well:

https://www.boydsbets.com/college-football-spread-to-moneyline-conversion/

In the NFL it is higher than 77%. College favorites are not as reliable to win the game as pro favorites. Considerably greater dispersion from spread to actual result. That's why teasers are laughable poor value in college football. We used to restrain snickers behind the sportsbook counter whenever somebody was making college football teaser bets.

I normally cite money lines around here as how the season win over/unders are derived. Naturally the conventional wisdom types don't like that. They envision a big secretive brain trust in which every conceivable player and matchup and variable is deciphered. Hilarious. I've seen posts about the good old days on some other forum, a decade or more ago. Good thing I wasn't there at the time or I would have effortlessly deflected all the garbage at that point. Basically that type of thinking had a free undeserved reign of ignorance.

Since most people who don't bet sports are unfamiliar with money lines (-260...+220) and how they vary from sport to sport, the projected win percentage is probably a better reference point on forums like this. When a sportsbook is assigning the season win over/unders they'll translate the spread into a percentage for each game and then feed those percentages into a formula to spit out the projected wins and therefore the over under. Let's say the win expectancy is 60% each time among the first 5 games. That ESPN link and the way it was authored would assert, "Projected Record: 5-0." Meanwhile, the betting over/under among those 5 games would be 3-2.


You literally are the biggest blow hard on the interwebs

You talk all kinds of schit about how smart you are and how "the vast majority of posters here....."

But not once...not one single time have you EVER given a pick before a game was played.

You are always ready to come and tell everyone how you knew everything after the fact.

NEVER have you given a prognostication...undeservedly pompus ****. You think the average guy here doesn't know what the fvck a money line is? You old fvck


I can't wait to meet you one day. I'll give you a real prognostication.
 
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