Ed. Reed for secondary coach?

Why is it so obvious that he'd recruit well? Do you guys know him? Do you know if he's a gregarious guy who wants to bust *** 80 hours per week sucking up to 17 year olds and their crazy parents?

Now that we have a former player as HC I get the chance to realize my dream of an entire staff of only former players. Looks like Kehoe might have been retained, so we are 2 for 2 so far. Which former player is a realistic and competent DC option?
I bet the hot chicks in the Hardee's commercial are not experts in fine cuisine ... I'm certain they have had attention diverted to a hamburger a time or two .., how *** sales ... Ed Reed would be the football equilliavent ..I agree you can't teach instinct but I have witnessed his X and 0 knowledge and have heard him express his interest I'm sold.

Uknow... It's not that I think that E.Reed can't do the job... if fact i think he probably could do a better job especially with the plant that we have currently coaching the DBs.... but it's the whole narrative that we need to hire a former Miami hurricane player to coach their particular position. It gets a little stale after a while.

Every time there's an opening, there's the sames names .... Orgeron, Patrick, Dorsey, Barrow, Rumph, now Ed Reed, Shannon, etc.....

Enough of the guys who played for winners (it doesn't always translate)

We need to guys who can coach players into Winners


JC
 
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People keep talking about instincts and I think there are instincts bred naturally and bred throughly constant film study. The instincts that reed picked up via film study are teachable and those are the ones I am focused on. That said, I'd still need to see a bit from reed before bringing him in as a DB coach. I do think that if anyone out there can step into a first time role as positional coach, it's reed.
 
Lol "experts" think they know what it takes to be a good secondary coach smh I'm sure u all were Paul Williams fans.

Anyone who doesn't think Ed Reed would be a good choice for the job is an idiot. It's ****n secondary coach not DC, its one of the spots u can take a chance on an unproven coach. Clowns on here act like Ed Reed on staff at least long enough to evaluate would cause irreversible damage gtfoh
 
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Why is it so obvious that he'd recruit well? Do you guys know him? Do you know if he's a gregarious guy who wants to bust *** 80 hours per week sucking up to 17 year olds and their crazy parents?

Now that we have a former player as HC I get the chance to realize my dream of an entire staff of only former players. Looks like Kehoe might have been retained, so we are 2 for 2 so far. Which former player is a realistic and competent DC option?
I bet the hot chicks in the Hardee's commercial are not experts in fine cuisine ... I'm certain they have had attention diverted to a hamburger a time or two .., how *** sales ... Ed Reed would be the football equilliavent ..I agree you can't teach instinct but I have witnessed his X and 0 knowledge and have heard him express his interest I'm sold.

Uknow... It's not that I think that E.Reed can't do the job... if fact i think he probably could do a better job especially with the plant that we have currently coaching the DBs.... but it's the whole narrative that we need to hire a former Miami hurricane player to coach their particular position. It gets a little stale after a while.

Every time there's an opening, there's the sames names .... Orgeron, Patrick, Dorsey, Barrow, Rumph, now Ed Reed, Shannon, etc.....

Enough of the guys who played for winners (it doesn't always translate)

We need to guys who can coach players into Winners


JC
I agree... don't think Ray Lewis would be a good coach.. Warren Sapp no... Vinny no.. Dorsey yes.. Reed yes... most greats can't coach what they know..Saban is a great DB coach cause he played with out the skill sets that 98 percent of the kids he coached has ..he was able to compete cause of his understanding of X's and O's... What most dont understand is these kids nowadays don't need as much teaching as they do motivation to be the absolute best they can be... and being able to relate to these kids is monumental...its hard to motivate someone when you can't relate to their struggle...not trying to race bait.. but most of college football players are black and most of the coaches are white..so race is an obstacle that has to be dealt with...
 
Opinions are just that. Who is to say who is right or wrong? In my humble opinion, if any great player can teach part of what they know to others, they will be better for it, specially our players. Where great players tend to fail however, is when they expect others to be just like them.

Ed Reed would be a great DB coach at the U!
 
Ordinarily, the problem with the "UM guy" rationale is that people tend to suggest coaches who you wouldn't ordinarily consider but for them being associated with the program previously.

I think Ed Reed is an exception to this because I do believe he will have an excellent career in coaching should he decide to pursue it. IMO, he could be a high caliber position coach that any one would want to hire, not just a "UM guy."

That said, he isn't a coach now, nor has he been to this point. A very heady player, a superior leader, a true student of the game and position, yes, no doubt; he is all of those things, but he is not yet a coach.

You know who I like for the DB position? Mike Rumph.
 
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There are not many former players that I would just think "He would kill it as a coach".. Ed Reed is one of them. I just think he would thrive, motivate, and kill it. I also think Dorsey will someday as well. I think right now, give me a quality DC, and I would take Ed Reed as DB coach.
 
Why is it so obvious that he'd recruit well? Do you guys know him? Do you know if he's a gregarious guy who wants to bust *** 80 hours per week sucking up to 17 year olds and their crazy parents?

Now that we have a former player as HC I get the chance to realize my dream of an entire staff of only former players. Looks like Kehoe might have been retained, so we are 2 for 2 so far. Which former player is a realistic and competent DC option?
I bet the hot chicks in the Hardee's commercial are not experts in fine cuisine ... I'm certain they have had attention diverted to a hamburger a time or two .., how *** sales ... Ed Reed would be the football equilliavent ..I agree you can't teach instinct but I have witnessed his X and 0 knowledge and have heard him express his interest I'm sold.

Uknow... It's not that I think that E.Reed can't do the job... if fact i think he probably could do a better job especially with the plant that we have currently coaching the DBs.... but it's the whole narrative that we need to hire a former Miami hurricane player to coach their particular position. It gets a little stale after a while.

Every time there's an opening, there's the sames names .... Orgeron, Patrick, Dorsey, Barrow, Rumph, now Ed Reed, Shannon, etc.....

Enough of the guys who played for winners (it doesn't always translate)

We need to guys who can coach players into Winners


JC
I agree... don't think Ray Lewis would be a good coach.. Warren Sapp no... Vinny no.. Dorsey yes.. Reed yes... most greats can't coach what they know..Saban is a great DB coach cause he played with out the skill sets that 98 percent of the kids he coached has ..he was able to compete cause of his understanding of X's and O's... What most dont understand is these kids nowadays don't need as much teaching as they do motivation to be the absolute best they can be... and being able to relate to these kids is monumental...its hard to motivate someone when you can't relate to their struggle...not trying to race bait.. but most of college football players are black and most of the coaches are white..so race is an obstacle that has to be dealt with...

So you bring up Saban, one of the best DB coaches ever......and then say white dudes can't relate to the players and thus it's an obstacle.

Must be why Paul Williams knocked it out of the park, and Chuck Pagano's career never went anywhere, right?
 
I doubt he's ready for the 100-120 hour work weeks

Now that makes a lot of sense... some of these guys... have been pampered by their wealth they have accumulated over the years...are they willing to put in the time as a college coach is the real answer...
 
I think if Ed wants to get into coaching, he'd be better off working on an nfl staff. Seems like asking Ed Reed to coach hs or freshmens on basic technique is a waste of his vision.
 
I doubt he's ready for the 100-120 hour work weeks

Now that makes a lot of sense... some of these guys... have been pampered by their wealth they have accumulated over the years...are they willing to put in the time as a college coach is the real answer...

He should be a consultant. His film study is legendary. Coaches can fly him for a few days whenever he has time, and he can show them how he breaks down film, what he looks for, how he prepares. Then he doesn't have to work the grind, but still keeps in contact with the game.
 
Why is it so obvious that he'd recruit well? Do you guys know him? Do you know if he's a gregarious guy who wants to bust *** 80 hours per week sucking up to 17 year olds and their crazy parents?

Now that we have a former player as HC I get the chance to realize my dream of an entire staff of only former players. Looks like Kehoe might have been retained, so we are 2 for 2 so far. Which former player is a realistic and competent DC option?
I bet the hot chicks in the Hardee's commercial are not experts in fine cuisine ... I'm certain they have had attention diverted to a hamburger a time or two .., how *** sales ... Ed Reed would be the football equilliavent ..I agree you can't teach instinct but I have witnessed his X and 0 knowledge and have heard him express his interest I'm sold.

Uknow... It's not that I think that E.Reed can't do the job... if fact i think he probably could do a better job especially with the plant that we have currently coaching the DBs.... but it's the whole narrative that we need to hire a former Miami hurricane player to coach their particular position. It gets a little stale after a while.

Every time there's an opening, there's the sames names .... Orgeron, Patrick, Dorsey, Barrow, Rumph, now Ed Reed, Shannon, etc.....

Enough of the guys who played for winners (it doesn't always translate)

We need to guys who can coach players into Winners


JC
I agree... don't think Ray Lewis would be a good coach.. Warren Sapp no... Vinny no.. Dorsey yes.. Reed yes... most greats can't coach what they know..Saban is a great DB coach cause he played with out the skill sets that 98 percent of the kids he coached has ..he was able to compete cause of his understanding of X's and O's... What most dont understand is these kids nowadays don't need as much teaching as they do motivation to be the absolute best they can be... and being able to relate to these kids is monumental...its hard to motivate someone when you can't relate to their struggle...not trying to race bait.. but most of college football players are black and most of the coaches are white..so race is an obstacle that has to be dealt with...

So you bring up Saban, one of the best DB coaches ever......and then say white dudes can't relate to the players and thus it's an obstacle.

Must be why Paul Williams knocked it out of the park, and Chuck Pagano's career never went anywhere, right?
I said its an obstacle.. not impossible
 
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I bet the hot chicks in the Hardee's commercial are not experts in fine cuisine ... I'm certain they have had attention diverted to a hamburger a time or two .., how *** sales ... Ed Reed would be the football equilliavent ..I agree you can't teach instinct but I have witnessed his X and 0 knowledge and have heard him express his interest I'm sold.

Uknow... It's not that I think that E.Reed can't do the job... if fact i think he probably could do a better job especially with the plant that we have currently coaching the DBs.... but it's the whole narrative that we need to hire a former Miami hurricane player to coach their particular position. It gets a little stale after a while.

Every time there's an opening, there's the sames names .... Orgeron, Patrick, Dorsey, Barrow, Rumph, now Ed Reed, Shannon, etc.....

Enough of the guys who played for winners (it doesn't always translate)

We need to guys who can coach players into Winners


JC
I agree... don't think Ray Lewis would be a good coach.. Warren Sapp no... Vinny no.. Dorsey yes.. Reed yes... most greats can't coach what they know..Saban is a great DB coach cause he played with out the skill sets that 98 percent of the kids he coached has ..he was able to compete cause of his understanding of X's and O's... What most dont understand is these kids nowadays don't need as much teaching as they do motivation to be the absolute best they can be... and being able to relate to these kids is monumental...its hard to motivate someone when you can't relate to their struggle...not trying to race bait.. but most of college football players are black and most of the coaches are white..so race is an obstacle that has to be dealt with...

So you bring up Saban, one of the best DB coaches ever......and then say white dudes can't relate to the players and thus it's an obstacle.

Must be why Paul Williams knocked it out of the park, and Chuck Pagano's career never went anywhere, right?
I said its an obstacle.. not impossible

But it's not an obstacle. There are literally thousands upon thousands of white coaches across America at all levels who are coaching the heck out of players. Skin color has nothing to do with coaching ability.
 
I am wondering if we can get Jerry Rice for WR Coach? I know he is an outside guy but you can't really beat those numbers.
 
Uknow... It's not that I think that E.Reed can't do the job... if fact i think he probably could do a better job especially with the plant that we have currently coaching the DBs.... but it's the whole narrative that we need to hire a former Miami hurricane player to coach their particular position. It gets a little stale after a while.

Every time there's an opening, there's the sames names .... Orgeron, Patrick, Dorsey, Barrow, Rumph, now Ed Reed, Shannon, etc.....

Enough of the guys who played for winners (it doesn't always translate)

We need to guys who can coach players into Winners


JC
I agree... don't think Ray Lewis would be a good coach.. Warren Sapp no... Vinny no.. Dorsey yes.. Reed yes... most greats can't coach what they know..Saban is a great DB coach cause he played with out the skill sets that 98 percent of the kids he coached has ..he was able to compete cause of his understanding of X's and O's... What most dont understand is these kids nowadays don't need as much teaching as they do motivation to be the absolute best they can be... and being able to relate to these kids is monumental...its hard to motivate someone when you can't relate to their struggle...not trying to race bait.. but most of college football players are black and most of the coaches are white..so race is an obstacle that has to be dealt with...

So you bring up Saban, one of the best DB coaches ever......and then say white dudes can't relate to the players and thus it's an obstacle.

Must be why Paul Williams knocked it out of the park, and Chuck Pagano's career never went anywhere, right?
I said its an obstacle.. not impossible

But it's not an obstacle. There are literally thousands upon thousands of white coaches across America at all levels who are coaching the heck out of players. Skin color has nothing to do with coaching ability.
Ok I am pro black not anti white.. my grand mother is white my grand son is half white.. i do no discriminate against white people at all but being black i have experienced racial discrimination so I'm sensitive to the topic I admit sometimes i reach.. I ask you this and would respect your honest opinion... I feel that Muschamp broke UF then broke AU's Def but is now a HC in the SEC... Shannon didnt do as much damage at Miami it was already broke when he took over.. but i feel he will not have the opportunity to be a Power 5 HC for some years to come ... do you think that has anything to do with skin tone? And you are right there are thousands of white coaches who does a great job relating to black kids..but still its an obstacle. ..If Custamotta would have stayed alive for 10 more years Mike Tyson would have never lost a fight..because Cus was one of very few people that could relate to Mike.. so don't take my statement as bashing white coaches... Bear Bryant did it when it wasn't cool to have blacks on the team in the south...it was because he was extremely smart in negotiating that obstacle when there wasn't a template to follow...he built the template not only dealing with coaching blacks but dealing with the rich white boosters that hated blacks. Getting off the soap box. My primary point is racial difference is an obstacle but it is negotable...some whites can do it better than some blacks but to act like it don't exist is like the river in Egypt (Da Nile)
 
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Bet you internet tough guys wouldn't tell Ed Reed to his face he can't coach dbs, its not like people are talking about an average run of the mill player this guy is one of the top 3 best safeties in NFL history, also one of the smartest and hard working, not to mention he was a leader on a few of the best defenses ever seen. If he wants to give it a shot im for it, he can't be worse the current guy coaching that position. Experience can be overrated at times, look at Kehoe.

Why, what's Ed gonna do? He's gonna beat somebody up cause they don't think he can coach?

I didn't see anybody say that he CAN'T coach DB's.
 
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