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[RBhurricane87]

Funny how quickly things change in CFB

2-3 years ago, people were begging for Charlie Strong

Now, all of a sudden he's a Corch...

 

[01Canes]

He went 8-8 with the Raiders , so that's the equilivent of going 14-2 anywhere else.

Sounds like what everyone said about Al -- He won at Temple. We have three former Miami coaches that have experience losing at crappy NFL franchises. Two have additional HC experience in college. No sure why the guy.

Yeah because Al was coaching at the highest level with a terrible owner and GM. Pretty much the same thing

You related to this guy or something? Sound really, really, devoted to a dude has not actually won a thing. Like almost any coach this guy is a throw of the dice. Hue makes zero impact upon hiring. IF he starts winning big, then maybe he can recruit but remember, unlike others, he will not be recruiting against Golden but rather all the guys who used Al as shower mate.

Nah, I just think he'd be a great pick .

How stupid of me to thjnk a guy in line to be an nfl head coach be my college coach . A guy that's well respected in the pros .

I'm sorry. I'd rather have a guy at Houston who's coached four games or an ol coach at bama .

I apologize.

Dismissively placing Herman in the same sentence as Cristobal is f***ing ridiculous, honestly.

 

[wherrera8]

Funny how quickly things change in CFB

2-3 years ago, people were begging for Charlie Strong

Now, all of a sudden he's a Corch...

You want a piece of me?

 

[Pimpdaddycane]

Hue Jackson is a genius and great person. Which leads me to believe he ain't coming here.

 

[CaneDro]

I vote coach macho.

Corch Marcho would turn us around in no time. We would have the scariest DL in college football history.

Who is Macho?

Macho Harris played for vt he porst here

 

[Cribby]

Sounds like what everyone said about Al -- He won at Temple. We have three former Miami coaches that have experience losing at crappy NFL franchises. Two have additional HC experience in college. No sure why the guy.

Yeah because Al was coaching at the highest level with a terrible owner and GM. Pretty much the same thing

You related to this guy or something? Sound really, really, devoted to a dude has not actually won a thing. Like almost any coach this guy is a throw of the dice. Hue makes zero impact upon hiring. IF he starts winning big, then maybe he can recruit but remember, unlike others, he will not be recruiting against Golden but rather all the guys who used Al as shower mate.

Nah, I just think he'd be a great pick .

How stupid of me to thjnk a guy in line to be an nfl head coach be my college coach . A guy that's well respected in the pros .

I'm sorry. I'd rather have a guy at Houston who's coached four games or an ol coach at bama .

I apologize.

Dismissively placing Herman in the same sentence as Cristobal is f***ing ridiculous, honestly.

Those are two guys that's been mentioned on here , not comparing them to each other.

I'm actually a Herman guy but I'm not crowning him after four games, now that would be ridiculous. Point was Hue is way more respected than those guys , and been at the highest level for a decade. It was aimed at the people dismissing Hue. Like he's not good enough for UM

 

[RBhurricane87]

Funny how quickly things change in CFB

2-3 years ago, people were begging for Charlie Strong

Now, all of a sudden he's a Corch...

You want to **** on me?

No thanks dude...not my style

 

[01Canes]

Yeah because Al was coaching at the highest level with a terrible owner and GM. Pretty much the same thing

You related to this guy or something? Sound really, really, devoted to a dude has not actually won a thing. Like almost any coach this guy is a throw of the dice. Hue makes zero impact upon hiring. IF he starts winning big, then maybe he can recruit but remember, unlike others, he will not be recruiting against Golden but rather all the guys who used Al as shower mate.

Nah, I just think he'd be a great pick .

How stupid of me to thjnk a guy in line to be an nfl head coach be my college coach . A guy that's well respected in the pros .

I'm sorry. I'd rather have a guy at Houston who's coached four games or an ol coach at bama .

I apologize.

Dismissively placing Herman in the same sentence as Cristobal is f***ing ridiculous, honestly.

Those are two guys that's been mentioned on here , not comparing them to each other.

I'm actually a Herman guy but I'm not crowning him after four games, now that would be ridiculous. Point was Hue is way more respected than those guys , and been at the highest level for a decade. It was aimed at the people dismissing Hue. Like he's not good enough for UM

Gotcha. I'm intrigued by Hue and like him a **** of a lot more than names like Kiffin/Strong/Schiano/Cristobal/Chud. Certain parts of his resume raise concerns, but to his credit he's having the best year of his coaching career right now. I have an open mind towards him and am curious to see how the rest of their season plays out.

As for Herman, I'm bullish on him to the point where I think he'll clearly establish himself as the undisputed hottest coaching name at the CFB level by season's end. So much so that Texas may end up firing Strong just so they don't miss out on him. We'll see, though.

I don't view my stance on him as crowning him after four games as the new head coach at Houston. I place a great deal of stock in his three-year run at Ohio State under Urban, where he played a huge part in their national title run as their playcaller and QB coach who had both Barrett and Jones playing at an exceptionally high level after Miller went down. People were talking about Barrett as a Heisman candidate before he got injured and Jones as a first-round prospect after just three starts, but people are now talking about how much worse they both look the more they see of them. I don't think that's a coincidence since Herman isn't there anymore.

 

[Dan E. Dangerously]

Winning 8 with the Raiders is like winning 13-15 with a legit organization.

Or taking Temple to a bowl game

 

[UM 2001]

Winning 8 with the Raiders is like winning 13-15 with a legit organization.

Or taking Temple to a bowl game

Hue and his offense is ripping apart the NFL right now. lol at comparing this guy to Golden. Idk how Hue would do as a college head coach but I am 100% positive that he's better than anything we will end up with after we fire Golden.

 

[Cribby]

He's been away from the college game for 15 years. Why Jackson any affiliation with the Canes

The only connection I know of is Nate Webster porked his daughter.

So the U is in his family, literally

 

[Dan E. Dangerously]

Winning 8 with the Raiders is like winning 13-15 with a legit organization.

Or taking Temple to a bowl game

Hue and his offense is ripping apart the NFL right now. lol at comparing this guy to Golden. Idk how Hue would do as a college head coach but I am 100% positive that he's better than anything we will end up with after we fire Golden.

That's fine, but you can't just accept him on the premise of, "he had a mediocre record at a place that always sucks," and think that means anything. That's why I only quoted that portion.

All his record in Oakland proves is that he's capable of being mediocre.

 

[AUcane]

Barry Jackson now saying that Hue Jackson/Fins is the latest rumor.

 

[wherrera8]

Barry Jackson now saying that Hue Jackson/Fins is the latest rumor.

Probably stole it from here.

 

[eddostarr]

My best guess is honestly jeremy pruitt

 

[JimmyJohnsonsHair]

Barry Jackson now saying that Hue Jackson/Fins is the latest rumor.

Makes more sense than Jackson to UM. FWIW, Vinn on the WEZ said the buyout is not an issue so I don't think this rumor has legs.

 

[daddacane]

something is wrong here...Jackson has never held a position for more than two years in a row...PASS PASS PASS...Sure it's just a rumor anyway..

 

[grogz26]

My best guess is honestly jeremy pruitt

I think he should definitely get interviewed

 

[pimpcane1]

NO WAY IN **** is Hue Jackson coming here. He's all NFL. He's been waiting for an NFL gig for a minute. His name is always thrown out for NFL positions. We ain't his alma mater so therefore he's not going to just give us love. He's all NFL...I repeat, ALL NFL.

Let's say he is the leading candidate and gets the job, first chance at an NFL gig he will bolt, and we are back at square one.

And the reason he would get that job is because he had success at Miami. Isn't this what we want? Our coaches to be wanted at the pro-level?

Just worry about the now.

Conman, it isn't accurate to assume that he would have to be successful in order to receive an NFL coaching job. Bill O'Brian went a mediocre 8-4 and 7-5 at PSU and left after 2 years for the NFL.

Looking at Hue's career he is a serial job hopper. The longest he has stayed at any of his coaching jobs is 2 years. So the chances of him leaving if he gets called to the NFL would be high if we are judge him by his career pattern.

A few things PotatoCane,

1. Every successful coach we had left for the pros. None were lifers. Again, none were lifers. This is normal, coaches move to better gigs after having success.

2. Bill O'Brien did a great job considering what happened at PSU and what he had to deal with. That is success. That is why Doug Marrone at Cuse left, he did well for what he had at Cuse.

3. Hue is already in the NFL. He is due for a HC position at the NFL level soon. He doesn't have to come to college to earn a HC gig. It doesn't matter anyway because if he leaves it would be because of success.

Conman,

1. Every successful coach at Miami stayed at least 5 years and won a championship before they left for pro jobs. If Hue won a championship and stayed that long most people would not care. But like I said Hue has NEVER stayed at a job longer than 2 years. Is that going to be long enough to win a championship?

2. a) Your arguments are all over the place. Sometimes its a HC record says who is. Other times he was a "success" because of what he had to deal with, pick argument and stick with it Conman.

b) It's funny that you define it as a "success" for O'Brien at PSU and Marrone at Cuse, when previous coaches have shown that success can occur at a much higher level than those two showed at their respective programs.

c)Conman please define for me what "success" for Hue at UM would be, assuming he receives the position, to receive an NFL job?

3. Hue is up for a NFL HCing job soon. The question is how soon? Someone else posted a article that listed him as 12th in line for an NFL position, there won't be 12 NFL openings next year. But the year after next or the year after could be the time the NFL comes calling when they have job openings.

Moreover, Hue's career pattern has shown us that he will take a job to gain experience in that segment of coaching before he bolts to the next opportunity. Right now his resume is light on HCing experience. How do you know Hue would'nt use UM just to gain experience without winning a championship before he enters the NFL?

Bottom line Conman, are you going to consider it a "success" if Hue gets the job, goes 8-5 for two years, then bolts for the NFL?

 

[cane since birth]

You related to this guy or something? Sound really, really, devoted to a dude has not actually won a thing. Like almost any coach this guy is a throw of the dice. Hue makes zero impact upon hiring. IF he starts winning big, then maybe he can recruit but remember, unlike others, he will not be recruiting against Golden but rather all the guys who used Al as shower mate.

Nah, I just think he'd be a great pick .

How stupid of me to thjnk a guy in line to be an nfl head coach be my college coach . A guy that's well respected in the pros .

I'm sorry. I'd rather have a guy at Houston who's coached four games or an ol coach at bama .

I apologize.

Dismissively placing Herman in the same sentence as Cristobal is f***ing ridiculous, honestly.

Those are two guys that's been mentioned on here , not comparing them to each other.

I'm actually a Herman guy but I'm not crowning him after four games, now that would be ridiculous. Point was Hue is way more respected than those guys , and been at the highest level for a decade. It was aimed at the people dismissing Hue. Like he's not good enough for UM

Gotcha. I'm intrigued by Hue and like him a **** of a lot more than names like Kiffin/Strong/Schiano/Cristobal/Chud. Certain parts of his resume raise concerns, but to his credit he's having the best year of his coaching career right now. I have an open mind towards him and am curious to see how the rest of their season plays out.

As for Herman, I'm bullish on him to the point where I think he'll clearly establish himself as the undisputed hottest coaching name at the CFB level by season's end. So much so that Texas may end up firing Strong just so they don't miss out on him. We'll see, though.

I don't view my stance on him as crowning him after four games as the new head coach at Houston. I place a great deal of stock in his three-year run at Ohio State under Urban, where he played a huge part in their national title run as their playcaller and QB coach who had both Barrett and Jones playing at an exceptionally high level after Miller went down. People were talking about Barrett as a Heisman candidate before he got injured and Jones as a first-round prospect after just three starts, but people are now talking about how much worse they both look the more they see of them. I don't think that's a coincidence since Herman isn't there anymore.

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