D'onofrio coaching clinic

[Bigtip]

I've asked this 8 million times, and i never get an answer.

Why were D'Onofrio and Golden able to put out good defenses at temple? Caveat: you can't give answers that have no logic like "the competition was worse"... while i realize that to be true, he was playing with talent relative to the competition. he wasn't doing it with Bama's recruiting classes.

the answer is that they DIDN'T - depending on what you define as good (which I'm sure you will tailor to fit their 1 decent season at temple)

F.A.G. basically has 2 mythical good defenses in his whole coaching career:

2004 - UVA (gave up 4.9 yards per play!)
2010 - Temple (gave up 4.6 yards per play)

for comparison, one of our worst defenses in the Shancoker era was the 2004 defense that lost a boat load of starters from the 2003 squad. that team gave up 4.6 yards per play. i thought we sucked on defense that year but now that is the benchmark of a good F.A.G. defense

you are drooling ******

so you didn't answer the question.. thanks for playing. anyone?

are you seriously going to ignore the facts? the answer to your dumbass question is that their 1 or 2 year mythical awesome defenses were just that: MYTHS.

they were not great defenses. they were OK relative to the talent they were playing. for Miami standards they were not good as I already pointed out you ***cing ******

 

[Bigtip]

I've asked this 8 million times, and i never get an answer.

Why were D'Onofrio and Golden able to put out good defenses at temple? Caveat: you can't give answers that have no logic like "the competition was worse"... while i realize that to be true, he was playing with talent relative to the competition. he wasn't doing it with Bama's recruiting classes.

That 2010 team was the best defense they had. Let's take a look at the offensive juggernauts that top ranked defense faced.

How impressive is that top 20 defense when the offenses they faced had an average ranking of 86?

thank goodness games are won and lost by the amount of yardage teams put up... but that's beside the point.. is it your contention that the only reason their defenses got better each year, was because they avg ypg of the teams they were playing each year were getting consecutively worse? also, if you were to take last years, 16th? ( i don't remember what temples exact ranking was).. are you telling me their opponents ypg would be in the top 30? In fact, who was the number 1 D last year, what was their opponents avg ypg?

wow you are some kind of stupid boy. willingly and stubbornly stupid.

 

[DaU83]

I've asked this 8 million times, and i never get an answer.

Why were D'Onofrio and Golden able to put out good defenses at temple? Caveat: you can't give answers that have no logic like "the competition was worse"... while i realize that to be true, he was playing with talent relative to the competition. he wasn't doing it with Bama's recruiting classes.

the answer is that they DIDN'T - depending on what you define as good (which I'm sure you will tailor to fit their 1 decent season at temple)

F.A.G. basically has 2 mythical good defenses in his whole coaching career:

2004 - UVA (gave up 4.9 yards per play!)
2010 - Temple (gave up 4.6 yards per play)

for comparison, one of our worst defenses in the Shancoker era was the 2004 defense that lost a boat load of starters from the 2003 squad. that team gave up 4.6 yards per play. i thought we sucked on defense that year but now that is the benchmark of a good F.A.G. defense

you are drooling ******

so you didn't answer the question.. thanks for playing. anyone?

are you seriously going to ignore the facts? the answer to your dumbass question is that their 1 or 2 year mythical awesome defenses were just that: MYTHS.

they were not great defenses. they were OK relative to the talent they were playing. for Miami standards they were not good as I already pointed out you ***cing ******

so it's not true that AG and D'no, put out a top 25 Defenses, with temple talent? .. you may want to look up the definition of myth.. i don't care what golden did under groh, that was groh's D, just like this is Al's D... what matters is what they were able to do together.. that group of guys they recruited and developed went on to be ranked like 12th the season after they left, then that defense dropped off the face of the earth.. pure coincidence probably.

 

[RiDLer80]

I've asked this 8 million times, and i never get an answer.

Why were D'Onofrio and Golden able to put out good defenses at temple? Caveat: you can't give answers that have no logic like "the competition was worse"... while i realize that to be true, he was playing with talent relative to the competition. he wasn't doing it with Bama's recruiting classes.

the answer is that they DIDN'T - depending on what you define as good (which I'm sure you will tailor to fit their 1 decent season at temple)

F.A.G. basically has 2 mythical good defenses in his whole coaching career:

2004 - UVA (gave up 4.9 yards per play!)
2010 - Temple (gave up 4.6 yards per play)

for comparison, one of our worst defenses in the Shancoker era was the 2004 defense that lost a boat load of starters from the 2003 squad. that team gave up 4.6 yards per play. i thought we sucked on defense that year but now that is the benchmark of a good F.A.G. defense

you are drooling ******

so you didn't answer the question.. thanks for playing. anyone?

are you seriously going to ignore the facts? the answer to your dumbass question is that their 1 or 2 year mythical awesome defenses were just that: MYTHS.

they were not great defenses. they were OK relative to the talent they were playing. for Miami standards they were not good as I already pointed out you ***cing ******

so it's not true that AG and D'no, put out a top 25 Defenses, with temple talent? .. you may want to look up the definition of myth.. i don't care what golden did under groh, that was groh's D, just like this is Al's D... what matters is what they were able to do together.. that group of guys they recruited and developed went on to be ranked like 12th the season after they left, then that defense dropped off the face of the earth.. pure coincidence probably.

Wait. So Golden has no responsibility for the defenses he coordinated while being the DC at Virginia, but you're giving him credit for a defense he didn't even coach?

I'm done with you.

 

[TP801]

Top 25 defense is considered good?

 

[Bigtip]

I've asked this 8 million times, and i never get an answer.

Why were D'Onofrio and Golden able to put out good defenses at temple? Caveat: you can't give answers that have no logic like "the competition was worse"... while i realize that to be true, he was playing with talent relative to the competition. he wasn't doing it with Bama's recruiting classes.

the answer is that they DIDN'T - depending on what you define as good (which I'm sure you will tailor to fit their 1 decent season at temple)

F.A.G. basically has 2 mythical good defenses in his whole coaching career:

2004 - UVA (gave up 4.9 yards per play!)
2010 - Temple (gave up 4.6 yards per play)

for comparison, one of our worst defenses in the Shancoker era was the 2004 defense that lost a boat load of starters from the 2003 squad. that team gave up 4.6 yards per play. i thought we sucked on defense that year but now that is the benchmark of a good F.A.G. defense

you are drooling ******

so you didn't answer the question.. thanks for playing. anyone?

are you seriously going to ignore the facts? the answer to your dumbass question is that their 1 or 2 year mythical awesome defenses were just that: MYTHS.

they were not great defenses. they were OK relative to the talent they were playing. for Miami standards they were not good as I already pointed out you ***cing ******

so it's not true that AG and D'no, put out a top 25 Defenses, with temple talent? .. you may want to look up the definition of myth.. i don't care what golden did under groh, that was groh's D, just like this is Al's D... what matters is what they were able to do together.. that group of guys they recruited and developed went on to be ranked like 12th the season after they left, then that defense dropped off the face of the earth.. pure coincidence probably.

you are defining it as good. it wasnt good. look at their schedule results for that year. they played a bunch of really really bad offenses and got torched when they played a decent one.

it would be like the 2013 Canes playing USF every week.

you are a real real big idiot

 

[Bigtip]

LOL at irg the ******* idiot.

 

[RiDLer80]

LOL at irg the ******* idiot.

"I don't care what the Virginia defenses that Al Golden was the coordinator of did."

"Look what Temple did the year after he left!"

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

I've asked this 8 million times, and i never get an answer.

Why were D'Onofrio and Golden able to put out good defenses at temple? Caveat: you can't give answers that have no logic like "the competition was worse"... while i realize that to be true, he was playing with talent relative to the competition. he wasn't doing it with Bama's recruiting classes.

They recruited Big East style players to play a Big East defense. Since he's been here, Golden realized that he had to recruit locally, but he's trying to fit round pegs into square holes. Also, he's missed on the guys that would most likely make his defense work in Valentine, Bryant, and Bostwick. And while the competition was worse, his players were Big East caliber while he was playing in the MAC. They were comparable, but he had a talent advantage. And let's be honest here. They did not put out good defense in the plural. They put out one good defense that for their level was excellent.

solid answer, but what's the expectation .. worst team in college football team to consistent top 25 D's in 4 or 5 years?

No. That's an unfair requirement for the Temple team he took over. But for people to look at his work at Temple as the reason the defense is bound to improve now is inaccurate. He had a type of player he could recruit in Philadelphia and the surrounding area to play a defense that suited them best against a below average level of competition and offensive skill. He came to Miami where he had a completely different style of player and a superior athlete and decided to recruit them for something that does not play to their strengths and they have no experience playing. He can't stop recruiting the local area or he'll be hung in effigy. So that only leaves changing the scheme to best fit his players and he hasn't done that. That's why the turnaround at Temple was so much quicker and extreme. NCAA or no NCAA, with the talent he has brought in with his past recruiting classes here, the defense should be further along than it is and there should have been on the field reasons to be encouraged that we're improving other than the fact that we're just pulling in more talent.

 

[UMFarArcher]

I'll try one other tack, if the Mods will permit.

Woman walks into the market and asks the manager where the rutabagas are. He replies, 'Ma'am, we're out of rutabagas." She walks off.

Ten minutes later, same lady, "Can you direct me to the rutabagas?" He politely answered, "We don't have any rutabagas, but hope to have a delivery tomorrow." She nods her head and walks off.

Three more times in the next half hour, she asks for guidance to find the rutabagas, and three more times, she was told they were out.

Here she came again. "Can you help me find the rutabagas?"

The manager replied, "Ma'am, can you spell dog, as in 'dogmatic?'"

She replied, "Dee-O-G." He replied, "that's right."

"Ma'am, can you spell cat as in catastrophic?" She replied, "See-A-Tee."

He said, "that's right. Can you spell '***' as in rutabagas?"

She thought, and replied, "There's no '***' in rutabagas!"

His reply, "Lady, THAT'S that I've been trying to tell you!"

Al Golden, NOR his Defensive Coordinator have EVER fielded a top defense, and never fielded a defensive power.

 

[Boarcane]

I'll try one other tack, if the Mods will permit.

Woman walks into the market and asks the manager where the rutabagas are. He replies, 'Ma'am, we're out of rutabagas." She walks off.

Ten minutes later, same lady, "Can you direct me to the rutabagas?" He politely answered, "We don't have any rutabagas, but hope to have a delivery tomorrow." She nods her head and walks off.

Three more times in the next half hour, she asks for guidance to find the rutabagas, and three more times, she was told they were out.

Here she came again. "Can you help me find the rutabagas?"

The manager replied, "Ma'am, can you spell dog, as in 'dogmatic?'"

She replied, "Dee-O-G." He replied, "that's right."

"Ma'am, can you spell cat as in catastrophic?" She replied, "See-A-Tee."

He said, "that's right. Can you spell '***' as in rutabagas?"

She thought, and replied, "There's no '***' in rutabagas!"

His reply, "Lady, THAT'S that I've been trying to tell you!"

Al Golden, NOR his Defensive Coordinator have EVER fielded a top defense, and never fielded a defensive power.

take your own advice bro. he is here for one more year, Ree Gard Less of how anyone on this board Feeeeeeeeels.
come back tomorrow
same people, topic, posts and same result :eekeyes:

 

[GhostofVenice01]

I read Archers story like an old ****** Lady from NY everytime he said rudabegas

 

[Paranos]

Here is AL Goldens defense from Virginia, same thing he has D'Onofrio running at today.

[video=youtube_share;vEfOoRtM_2A]http://youtu.be/vEfOoRtM_2A[/video]

Here is what Miami did to that top 25 UVA defense in 2004

[video=youtube_share;hYEbgipN0g4]http://youtu.be/hYEbgipN0g4[/video]

 

[Boarcane]

Here is AL Goldens defense from Virginia, same thing he has D'Onofrio running at today.

[video=youtube_share;vEfOoRtM_2A]http://youtu.be/vEfOoRtM_2A[/video]

Here is what Miami did to that top 25 UVA defense in 2004

[video=youtube_share;hYEbgipN0g4]http://youtu.be/hYEbgipN0g4[/video]

 

[Dwinstitles]

Here is AL Goldens defense from Virginia, same thing he has D'Onofrio running at today.

[video=youtube_share;vEfOoRtM_2A]http://youtu.be/vEfOoRtM_2A[/video]

Here is what Miami did to that top 25 UVA defense in 2004

[video=youtube_share;hYEbgipN0g4]http://youtu.be/hYEbgipN0g4[/video]

Easy we had more nfl guys, I dont care whos coaching if u recruit alot of nfl talent ill show a bcs power ala bama fsu. Its pretty fkin simple, best players equals wins

 

[CaneAlmighty]

Here is AL Goldens defense from Virginia, same thing he has D'Onofrio running at today.

[video=youtube_share;vEfOoRtM_2A]http://youtu.be/vEfOoRtM_2A[/video]

Here is what Miami did to that top 25 UVA defense in 2004

[video=youtube_share;hYEbgipN0g4]http://youtu.be/hYEbgipN0g4[/video]

Easy we had more nfl guys, I dont care whos coaching if u recruit alot of nfl talent ill show a bcs power ala bama fsu. Its pretty fkin simple, best players equals wins

Golden was the better DC that Game. :eekeyes:

 

[theibisrules]

geez that is rough right there

 

[theibisrules]

[video=youtube;WUF-ufpTdmI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUF-ufpTdmI[/video]

Just get us this defense right here....that's all I want

 

[skyman]

Gore had a record day. Almost got 200 yards.

 

[theibisrules]

we had a pretty decent DC in J. Lovett.....Lovett at DC and Fisch as OC would be right in my eyes.

[video=youtube;H6L0Wslblic]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6L0Wslblic[/video]