Does anyone believe this OL is elite?

[SSCane]

Any OL that nukes drives consistently like this is not elite.
They are far from elite.
We can’t run tempo, because our OL false starts every time we do.
How can you expect your offense to function or have any success, when you can’t run tempo and your OL constantly puts you in 3rd and 15 or longer?

 

[Once&FutureCane]

Until you start sitting people down, nothing is going to change. Issue starts when you overlook small details.

I agree but we are paying these OL dudes a lot of money.

We are also playing guys out of position. Francis is a guard not a tackle. Pancake and McCoy are tackles, not guards. And Brockermeyer is physically outmatched at center. They can get away with it in pass pro but get exposed in run blocking. And when you have guys this size on your OL you have to play with tight splits or LBs would shoot gaps all day.

 

[rascon]

I agree but we are paying these OL dudes a lot of money.

We are also playing guys out of position. Francis is a guard not a tackle. Pancake and McCoy are tackles, not guards. And Brockermeyer is physically outmatched at center. They can get away with it in pass pro but get exposed in run blocking. And when you have guys this size on your OL you have to play with tight splits or LBs would shoot gaps all day.

If the system is legit, let them shoot their lbs on pass plays, slot eats all day with quick passes.

100 agree with playing FM at guard. Put SO at RT, and I think you end up net positive and your best player in position to have more impact.

 

[SPFRcane]

This line is elite at pass blocking but they are not good at run blocking. Every run turns into a rugby scrum. Every run is muddy, and that's why Fletcher and Brown are better in this run scheme than Lyle (who is much more talented). The LG and C positions have taken turns struggling. The predictable play calling hurts the line, of course, but it doesn't seem like the OL is creating any holes. We need an experienced run game coordinator to come in and help Dawson modernize this run game.

Why Ryan Rodriguez is not given a chance to play center....is it NIL because what else can it be?

 

[stormsurge]

i wanna see all OL we got on the field at once. I want to see the ball snapped to one of them and the others form an impenetrable wall to escort our guy down the field. It'll be called the zero option offense.

 

[Derrick Griffin]

No need for the racism.

My apologies Jermey Lin.

 

[STG]

Top 3-4 in pass blocking…Probably just outside the top 20 in run blocking…Overall a top 7-8 unit, but not the dominant force people are saying.

The interior, especially LG/Center are very average.

Lol at just outside the top 20 in run blocking when we average 3.9 YPC. That is awful.

 

[skeeter]

Lol at just outside the top 20 in run blocking when we average 3.9 YPC. That is awful.

We've faced a tough slate of run defenses… Notre Dame, UF, FSU, SMU, and surprise USF all in the top 30 in Run D at less than 3.5 apr allowed and most of em rank well in def rush plays success rate, etc. But yeah ok not a huge gripe from me.

 

[STG]

We've faced a tough slate of run defenses… Notre Dame, UF, FSU, SMU, and surprise USF all in the top 30 in Run D at less than 3.5 apr allowed and most of em rank well in def rush plays success rate, etc. But yeah ok not a huge gripe from me.

So not a single one in the top 20. Which means none are elite run defenses. But regardless, if the argument is our OL is elite, it wouldn't matter. Facts are, the OL is below average as a run blocking unit. Every metric supports it.

 

[MiamisMoperiestMopes]

Why Ryan Rodriguez is not given a chance to play center....is it NIL because what else can it be?

Maybe they don’t trust him? My cynical nature wouldn’t put it past our program to base PT on NIL dollars but logically I can’t see us doing that.

It has been mention previously that Brockermeyer had graded out as one of the best OL by internal metrics earlier in the season.

 

[Silver King]

No, not even at the beginning of the year and I said so then after a couple games.

 

[skeeter]

So not a single one in the top 20. Which means none are elite run defenses. But regardless, if the argument is our OL is elite, it wouldn't matter. Facts are, the OL is below average as a run blocking unit. Every metric supports it.

Huh? Yes there are multiple in the top 20…WTF are you talking about?

ND, SMU, FSU all in the top 20…Louisville 24th.

It's like idiotville in here…You people don't even know how to read numbers when they are in front of your face. I have the idiot in the other thread tell me Beck has 8 interceptions for the season if you take out like 3-4of our games including Louisville. Meanwhile he threw 4 against Louisville.

Straight idiotville.

I understand it's venting week in here…I get it. And I agree with you we are not a great run blocking OL. But mix in a fact, please

 

[STG]

Huh? Yes there are multiple in the top 20…WTF are you talking about?

ND, SMU, FSU all in the top 20…Louisville 24th.

It's like idiotville in here…You people don't even know how to read numbers when they are in front of your face. I have the idiot in the other thread tell me Beck has 8 interceptions for the season if you take out like 3-4of our games including Louisville. Meanwhile he threw 4 against Louisville.

Straight idiotville.

I understand it's venting week in here…I get it. And I agree with you we are not a great run blocking OL. But mix in a fact, please

You stated top 30, so I read it as they were just inside that so that is my bad.

But you are also the ******* moron who even tried to make an argument this OL was elite and that we were just outside the top 20 as a run blocking unit when they are atrocious in the run game. So I assume idiotville must also apply to you as well.

No semi intelligent person would even attempt to make that argument or state we are just outside the top 20 as a run blocking unit. Or top 7-8 overall with the combo of penalties as well.

Welcome to Idiotville!

 

[skeeter]

You stated top 30, so I read it as they were just inside that so that is my bad.

But you are also the ******* moron who even tried to make an argument this OL was elite and that we were just outside the top 20 as a run blocking unit when they are atrocious in the run game. So I assume idiotville must also apply to you as well.

No semi intelligent person would even attempt to make that argument or state we are just outside the top 20 as a run blocking unit. Or top 7-8 overall with the combo of penalties as well.

Welcome to Idiotville!

They aren't atrocious" in the run game. But yes it is a clear drop off from the pas protection. And yes we are top 7-8 overall."

 

[cway313]

You stated top 30, so I read it as they were just inside that so that is my bad.

But you are also the ******* moron who even tried to make an argument this OL was elite and that we were just outside the top 20 as a run blocking unit when they are atrocious in the run game. So I assume idiotville must also apply to you as well.

No semi intelligent person would even attempt to make that argument or state we are just outside the top 20 as a run blocking unit. Or top 7-8 overall with the combo of penalties as well.

Welcome to Idiotville!

He also believes Beck is better than Mensah because of our gauntlet schedule.

 

[STG]

They aren't atrocious" in the run game. But yes it is a clear drop off from the pas protection. And yes we are top 7-8 overall."

84th n YPC at 3.9.

One of the least explosive run games in the entire country with only 1 rush over 30 yards. Only 1 other P4 team is as bad.

That on it's own is atrocious. When you factor in what is spent on the OL, and supposedly having elite OL coaches in Mario and Mirabal, it makes it even worse.

And again, let's not forget about the penalties. So yeah, the run game is atrocious and we are not a top 7-8 OL. So again, like you proclaimed, welcome to Idiotville.

 

[STG]

He also believes Beck is better than Mensah because of our gauntlet schedule.

Bruh, he definitely is dumb if he belives that.

 

[cway313]

Bruh, he definitely is dumb if he belives that.

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[skeeter]

84th n YPC at 3.9.

One of the least explosive run games in the entire country with only 1 rush over 30 yards. Only 1 other P4 team is as bad.

That on it's own is atrocious. When you factor in what is spent on the OL, and supposedly having elite OL coaches in Mario and Mirabal, it makes it even worse.

And again, let's not forget about the penalties. So yeah, the run game is atrocious and we are not a top 7-8 OL. So again, like you proclaimed, welcome to Idiotville.

Because it's so easy getting "explosive runs" out of Mark Fletcher, Carson Beck, and Chamar Brown right?

And again if you are facing a top 20-30 run defense every game your ypr are going to be affected.

You are so lost.

 

[skeeter]

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Little dypshyt literally gets "Beck better than Mensah" out of that ^^^…. Then these two start sucking each other's pricks.

But yeah Mensah gotta play someone before I crown him…. And I already admitted he's better than I gave him credit for. I believe South Florida defense would be 2nd best defense on Duke's schedule? And what did we count last night…4 or 5 better than Clemson who is the best on their schedule (since you like "metrics so much @STG go check out SP+ for the defenses Mensah has face, and again I'm not saying the kid isn't good and I am saying he's a little better than I gave him credit for…But to slurp him like this board is? Nah, I gotta see him play someone with a pulse)