Desperation is Strong Here

[WestEndZone]

I'm convinced that every mope on this board has asperger's. There a strong correlation between # of posts (and their repetitive, obsessive nature) and mopes. Mopes clearly show intense preoccupation with a narrow subject (duhh), and one-sided verbosity (can't even see the other side). Mopes obviously show lack of demonstrated empathy (they personally attack everyone who doesn't agree with them--they fail to see players and coaches as people, and merely as objects), which has a significant impact on aspects of communal living (communal message board). Finally, mopes engage in a one-sided, long-winded speech about a favorite topic, while misunderstanding or not recognizing the listener's feelings or reactions, such as a wish to change the topic of talk or end the interaction (that's pretty **** clear).

There's a bunch other physical signs too, but I can't see you degenerates from here.

 

[CaneAlmighty]

I'm convinced that every mope on this board has asperger's. There a strong correlation between # of posts (and their repetitive, obsessive nature) and mopes. Mopes clearly show intense preoccupation with a narrow subject (duhh), and one-sided verbosity (can't even see the other side). Mopes obviously show lack of demonstrated empathy (they personally attack everyone who doesn't agree with them--they fail to see players and coaches as people, and merely as objects), which has a significant impact on aspects of communal living (communal message board). Finally, mopes engage in a one-sided, long-winded speech about a favorite topic, while misunderstanding or not recognizing the listener's feelings or reactions, such as a wish to change the topic of talk or end the interaction (that's pretty **** clear).

There's a bunch other physical signs too, but I can't see you degenerates from here.

 

[UMFarArcher]

I'm convinced that every mope on this board has asperger's. There a strong correlation between # of posts (and their repetitive, obsessive nature) and mopes. Mopes clearly show intense preoccupation with a narrow subject (duhh), and one-sided verbosity (can't even see the other side). Mopes obviously show lack of demonstrated empathy (they personally attack everyone who doesn't agree with them--they fail to see players and coaches as people, and merely as objects), which has a significant impact on aspects of communal living (communal message board). Finally, mopes engage in a one-sided, long-winded speech about a favorite topic, while misunderstanding or not recognizing the listener's feelings or reactions, such as a wish to change the topic of talk or end the interaction (that's pretty **** clear).

There's a bunch other physical signs too, but I can't see you degenerates from here.

So.

You still ****ed because Golden and D'Onofrio suck, and many good, solid fans have noticed it, and then have the audacity to speak of it?

Maybe you should stick your Asberger's up urass, as it sure sounds like a bunch of whining - you know - like a 'mope' does.

Personally, I appreciates empathy. I've been suffering from one half-assed coach after another for ten years, and if Golden had any empathy for my suffering, he certainly would have fired D'Onofrio to ease my misery. If he had a respectable amount of empathy, he'd have quit after that shameful, embarrassing Penn State refusal, so we could hire a real coach, a proven coach. Who is familiar with the S.FL culture. Like Butch.

Empathy, I got. Patience with folks who bite off a job way over their head - I run out of patience real quick.

If D'Onofrio is a Defensive Coordinator, I'm a Theoretical Physicist.

You don't see me taking a job as a marriage counselor do you? You don't see me joining the Flying Wallendas, do you? You don't see me taking that job at the factory picking fly siht out of pepper, do you? I know better!

If you hire a pilot that crashes almost as many times as he lands for three friggin' years, how long you going to keep putting him in your planes?

 

[TrueCane100]

I can show you wjat it looked like when we were on probation and kenny kelly was the qb..... Be real!!!

 

[DaU83]

I love guys who offer up problems and not real solutions, everybody says "Fire Golden" then what? hire who?

There are plenty of coaches UM could hire that are affordable and would actually bring a coaching dynamic to the table.

Golden is referenced as a defensive-minded head coach (which is ironic because, historically, most of his defenses have been merely average), but fields the worst defenses in school history. What does he bring? Is he a great recruiter? No. Does he hire hot-shot coordinators and coaches to make up for his shortcomings as a head coach? No. Can UM even afford to hire big-time coaches and coordinators? No.

Miami needs a coach who provides a coaching element with its budget. Golden doesn't. He's a politician, not a coach.

At this point, roll the dice on other candidates. Chud, Chad Morris, Pat Narduzzi.

Three years into his tenure and the same concerns voiced in year one still linger. That's not the cloud, it's not handlers pushing recruits away from Miami, it's not Randy's players - it's ****ty coaching.

Dude needs to go.

Perspective. You could use some.

This guy took over a program in late 2010 that was in complete shambles. He had two months to scrape together his first recruiting class, got blindsided by a three year long NCAA investigation of biblical proportions, stuck with us anyway when he easily could have left (and completely ****ed us) without any damage to his name, pulled in talented recruiting classes while handling the investigation & sanctions, and despite all that, he has won more games and lost fewer games every single year.

6-6
7-5
9-4

Yes, the defense has sucked. Yes, we missed on big time recruits. Yes, our stadium is empty. But the only thing that matters is wins and losses, and Golden hasn't failed us yet.

I'm excited to see what he can do now that he is free from the NCAA and has finally had some time to build a team with the players he recruited. Give me double digit wins this year and I'm happy.

Love the 6, 7, and 9-win argument. Look at our strength of schedule over those years. Relative to who we played last season, 9 wins is an absolute failure, particularly considering we didn't win the Coastal. You say he hasn't failed us yet. He sure did last season.

Perspective? Here's some perspective: 1-12 against teams with 5 or more wins, getting blown out by FSU three years in a row, and humiliating losses 2-10 Maryland, 4-8 Boston College, and 4-8 Virginia. Oh, and not to mention looking completely un-prepared and flat in his only bowl game.

Because we haven't shown any improvement over the years, it leads me to believe we'll never reach the upper echelon of College Football under this guy. But for cheerleaders like yourself, who consider beating Duke and winning the unbelievably ****ty ACC Coastal a success, I guess that's OK.

When you take into account how many games we played and lost without our best offensive player (perspective) , then it makes some sense.

 

[DaU83]

when we struggled with a 2-8 Maryland team I knew he wasn't cut out to be our next head coach.

LOL, its sad how little perspective we have.

It is sad how little perspective you have.

We lose a game where 50% of our starters were suspended a few days before the game (from a bad team, fyi), and that's an indictment of how good a coach al golden is? Please.

 

[BWCD]

the way that the 2013 season went considering how pathetic the defense has been for 3 straight years and the fact that nothing was done about it is all the evidence that any rational person would need to know that F.A.G. is garbage and wont last.

in what fairytale do you live in to think that this guy will all of a suddenly be a good coach one day?

I never said that. I said my bytching about it does no good. You bytching about it won't turn him into a good coach, and it won't help him get replaced any faster either.

Like I said, you're on one end of the extremes when it comes to all of this. More of the facts tend to side with the negative against Golden, but there are some good things the guy has done as Miami's coach that completely get ignored...and that you'll never acknowledge, just because you have pitchfork firmly in hand.

It's the same way with the super-positive folks, they don't like to see any of the negative, and whine about it when folks point those things out.

Where it gets annoying to folks like me is when all we see is super-positive vs super-negative in every single ******* thread. We get it. Horse is dead. Time to stop beating it. The ultra-bytching and the rah-rah **** does no good. All it brings, again...sh1tty threads.

 

[canecountry3]

Miami is 0-0. Get a grip.

 

[passitback]

when we struggled with a 2-8 Maryland team I knew he wasn't cut out to be our next head coach.

LOL, its sad how little perspective we have.

It is sad how little perspective you have.

We lose a game where 50% of our starters were suspended a few days before the game (from a bad team, fyi), and that's an indictment of how good a coach al golden is? Please.

Good coaches beat good teams. UM does not beat good teams. We get pummeled by them.

 

[UMFarArcher]

the way that the 2013 season went considering how pathetic the defense has been for 3 straight years and the fact that nothing was done about it is all the evidence that any rational person would need to know that F.A.G. is garbage and wont last.

in what fairytale do you live in to think that this guy will all of a suddenly be a good coach one day?

I never said that. I said my bytching about it does no good. You bytching about it won't turn him into a good coach, and it won't help him get replaced any faster either.

Like I said, you're on one end of the extremes when it comes to all of this. More of the facts tend to side with the negative against Golden, but there are some good things the guy has done as Miami's coach that completely get ignored...and that you'll never acknowledge, just because you have pitchfork firmly in hand.

It's the same way with the super-positive folks, they don't like to see any of the negative, and whine about it when folks point those things out.

Where it gets annoying to folks like me is when all we see is super-positive vs super-negative in every single ******* thread. We get it. Horse is dead. Time to stop beating it. The ultra-bytching and the rah-rah **** does no good. All it brings, again...sh1tty threads.

Wrong on that part. It's the squeaky wheel that gets the grease.

When banners orbit over our games, that's kinda hard to ignore.

 

[sebastian91]

When banners orbit over our games, that's kinda hard to ignore.

"National Champs to National Chumps, Thanks Butch"

That worked out well for us.

 

[UMFarArcher]

The Administration screwed Butch over on his contract. He thought he was staying, he said he was staying, and thinking they now had the advantage, the Administration screwed Butch. So he left.

And some retards suggest Butch lied, and left.

No, the Administration shoved it up Butch's ***, and he felt he had no choice. You'll note the exemplary cooperation between Miami football and the University administration. The idiots are running the administration, as they share the same delusions over what a football program can do for a University.

Butch didn't fire his Defensive Coordinator fast enough. But he got to it, and man, did Butch field some teams.

His teams put one trophy in the case, and the other trophy is in Ohio State case.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

The Administration screwed Butch over on his contract. He thought he was staying, he said he was staying, and thinking they now had the advantage, the Administration screwed Butch. So he left.

And some retards suggest Butch lied, and left.

No, the Administration shoved it up Butch's ***, and he felt he had no choice. You'll note the exemplary cooperation between Miami football and the University administration. The idiots are running the administration, as they share the same delusions over what a football program can do for a University.

Butch didn't fire his Defensive Coordinator fast enough. But he got to it, and man, did Butch field some teams.

His teams put one trophy in the case, and the other trophy is in Ohio State case.

This.

This.

This.

All of this.

 

[DaU83]

when we struggled with a 2-8 Maryland team I knew he wasn't cut out to be our next head coach.

LOL, its sad how little perspective we have.

It is sad how little perspective you have.

We lose a game where 50% of our starters were suspended a few days before the game (from a bad team, fyi), and that's an indictment of how good a coach al golden is? Please.

Good coaches beat good teams. UM does not beat good teams. We get pummeled by them.

Is that why saban lost to Louisiana Monroe? Or maybe he was a bad coach in that game?

 

[Cane Dynasty]

LOL, its sad how little perspective we have.

It is sad how little perspective you have.

We lose a game where 50% of our starters were suspended a few days before the game (from a bad team, fyi), and that's an indictment of how good a coach al golden is? Please.

Good coaches beat good teams. UM does not beat good teams. We get pummeled by them.

Is that why saban lost to Louisiana Monroe? Or maybe he was a bad coach in that game?

You really enjoy finding outlier situations and then attempting to present them as a body of evidence don't you?

 

[kmwcane]

The Administration screwed Butch over on his contract. He thought he was staying, he said he was staying, and thinking they now had the advantage, the Administration screwed Butch. So he left.

And some retards suggest Butch lied, and left.

No, the Administration shoved it up Butch's ***, and he felt he had no choice. You'll note the exemplary cooperation between Miami football and the University administration. The idiots are running the administration, as they share the same delusions over what a football program can do for a University.

Butch didn't fire his Defensive Coordinator fast enough. But he got to it, and man, did Butch field some teams.

His teams put one trophy in the case, and the other trophy is in Ohio State case.

Yeah, Butch was a perfect angel and did nothing wrong when he left...

It's fine to believe Butch was a great coach and tout his accomplishments on the field and in recruiting but to pin his leaving entirely on Miami is disingenuous at best.

 

[UMFarArcher]

The Administration screwed Butch over on his contract. He thought he was staying, he said he was staying, and thinking they now had the advantage, the Administration screwed Butch. So he left.

And some retards suggest Butch lied, and left.

No, the Administration shoved it up Butch's ***, and he felt he had no choice. You'll note the exemplary cooperation between Miami football and the University administration. The idiots are running the administration, as they share the same delusions over what a football program can do for a University.

Butch didn't fire his Defensive Coordinator fast enough. But he got to it, and man, did Butch field some teams.

His teams put one trophy in the case, and the other trophy is in Ohio State case.

Yeah, Butch was a perfect angel and did nothing wrong when he left...

It's fine to believe Butch was a great coach and tout his accomplishments on the field and in recruiting but to pin his leaving entirely on Miami is disingenuous at best.

Yeah, I'm sure that unlike Butch Davis, you'd love do your job and if you leave, you have to pay $2,500,000 to your employer.

And if you think it's generous of your employer to later after negotiations, "generously" only require you to pay back one entire year's salary if you leave - then I'd say you gotta be one dumb SOB.

Don't tell me Miami didn't **** Butch. They did.

 

[kmwcane]

The Administration screwed Butch over on his contract. He thought he was staying, he said he was staying, and thinking they now had the advantage, the Administration screwed Butch. So he left.

And some retards suggest Butch lied, and left.

No, the Administration shoved it up Butch's ***, and he felt he had no choice. You'll note the exemplary cooperation between Miami football and the University administration. The idiots are running the administration, as they share the same delusions over what a football program can do for a University.

Butch didn't fire his Defensive Coordinator fast enough. But he got to it, and man, did Butch field some teams.

His teams put one trophy in the case, and the other trophy is in Ohio State case.

Yeah, Butch was a perfect angel and did nothing wrong when he left...

It's fine to believe Butch was a great coach and tout his accomplishments on the field and in recruiting but to pin his leaving entirely on Miami is disingenuous at best.

Yeah, I'm sure that unlike Butch Davis, you'd love do your job and if you leave, you have to pay $2,500,000 to your employer.

And if you think it's generous of your employer to later after negotiations, "generously" only require you to pay back one entire year's salary if you leave - then I'd say you gotta be one dumb SOB.

Don't tell me Miami didn't **** Butch. They did.

You are taking Butch Davis' word on the situation as 100% true because you don't like the Miami administration.

Both parties, Miami and Butch, were at fault. Butch isn't the poor little victim you want to paint him as in order to villify the Miami administration.

 

[sebastian91]

Regardless of who screwed who, the simple bottom line is that Butch could have stayed if he really wanted to stay. He wanted the challenge (and the money), and he took it. I don't blame him either. The point of this was that your comment about the banners leads to action. If Miami had fired Butch when this idiot fanbase flew that banner, then what?

 

[Gatorhater]

When one looks at our performances over the past few years, when one hopes for a less retarded defensive approach and the HC states he wants 'continuity,' when one looks at wins and loses while factoring in strength of schedule, and when one sees an absolute lack of in-game adjustment, and almost identical performances in Golden's Maryland game and the Louisville game, why in Hades do some of you not realize, we got a real coaching problem?

Are you so desperate for improvement, that you're willing to fabricate a mind-set that will ignore the obvious, and somehow conjure up bizarre arguments designed to perpetuate the fraud being conducted by our HC, DC, and yes, even our OC who hasn't shown anyone crap? Yet?

You watch a Spring game and somehow distill out all this wisdom on who's going to be great and who's not. Some go as far as touting one freshman after another who are going to save the season - almost all by himself.

I remember stopping by and watching Schnellenberger running everyone's *** into the ground. ****, Kehoe was out there somewhere. So don't think I haven't seen it from the beginning. I'm damned tired of Shalala and her half-assed coaching selections going back over a decade. Three-in-a-row isn't fate, it's stupidity.

I don't wear rose-colored glasses. We need a coaching change, and not by Shalala. She needs to go first.

The whole blaming Shalala is just beyond stupid. She came to Miami in 2001, the same year Coker was hired. Coker was a late hire made after Butch left Miami high and dry, and most of the top coaching candidates had already been taken by other schools. Shannon was initially a very popular hire with both players, alumni, and fans, because of his UM pedigree as player and a highly-regarded defensive coordinator. Al Golden was considered one of the hot young up and coming coaches when UM hired him, and whether he lives up to that or not has not yet been determined no matter how much some of you claim otherwise.

So you're saying she is not to blame for the only one of the three who actually won anything? She has been in charge for 14 years of lower and lower levels of success. The buck stops on her desk. She brought the ncaa nightmare on us -- look at the greedy little face with the check. When you are the boos you have to take the blame for continued failure. D1 schools are big business and football is a Crown Jewel money maker. She must take the blame just like she took the check.