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Dalvin after game

CANE4LIFE said:
AllbouttheU said:
jmccomber5 said:
AllbouttheU said:
jmccomber5 said:
This is what I have been saying. I never felt like we had a chance with Cook other than to back door his commitment. But Dixon? I just don't see an excuse. Kid lives up the interstate and was here over ten times, multiple games, practices, and we were his outright leader for 6 months. He visits OSU one time randomly in October and wants to go there? Sorry, that's a fail on our part.
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How is that a fail?
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It's a failure to close IMO. Hometown school. Stated as his leader since the summer. Visited multiple times. Came to multiple games. Favorable offense and scheme. Mother who wants him close to home. How is it not a fail? I understand you can't force any kid to go anywhere. It's their choice. But JDs recruitment is a failure by our program to seal the deal on a kid we had a lead with. It's not the first nor will it be the last time. Hopefully we can be the OSU in some of these other target's situations.
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I think the word "fail" gets thrown around too much. Like you said can't force a kid to go somewhere he doesn't want to, but the staff recruited the **** outta him not sure what else their suppose to do. A fail is not recruiting that South Carolina freshman last season.
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BINGO. Too many cats here dont know what the F*CK they are talking about. "Failure" as if the outcome is something that rests in the hands of the staff. At the end of the day, all the staff can do is do all it can to recruit the kid. A "Failure" in recruiting is ******** up the relationship with a kid, not evaluating him properly, not recruiting him, or getting on him too late. That is fair to blame the staff for "failing". But when you recruit the **** out of a kid, and do everything you can to get him, and he still choses to go somewhere else for whatever reason, that's just unfortunate, but not really a "failure" but the staff. Failure implies that somehow the end result is in your control. Once the staff has done everything it can to recruit a kid, the result is out of their hands.
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Trying hard doesn't mean you're doing the right things to be successful. Our defensive corches try hard, but we're not stopping anyone. Therefore, they're failing even though they're trying hard.

You guys are cutting our coaches too much slack when it comes to missing on super blue-chip local stars like Cook. It's popular to say "they did all they could," but you don't really know exactly what they did and why they couldn't convince to come here a local kid whose family wants him here and whose brother and beloved teammates go here.

At the end of the day, recruiting, just like wins and losses on the field, is a results game. You can try as hard as possible, but if you don't succeed you failed. It happens to everyone sometimes. But if it happens too much, then you'll be fsu's bytch in perpetuity. Cook is a very rare talent who can mask a lot of corching deficiencies. UM simply can't afford to lose a guy like that to a hated rival.
 
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BigPoppaCane said:
SO NOW KIDS COMMIT FOR FANS
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A third grader can understand that our **** poor game environment and lack of a campus stadium is a huge problem and will deter lots of good players from coming here. It's a fact any idiot can understand....it is especially difficult because the OB is dust. We have no farking home.

That's another reason Golden was a good choice.....dude overcame crap *** similar stdium game day issues at Temple.

Now not only the cloud was a fantasy, but our ****** gameday problems are fantasy too?
 
dycane said:
The Franchise said:
Cal jimmy said:
The Franchise said:
bransuperpower said:
How do you make players that just dont want to stay home be there? thats just impossible
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How do timeshare salesmen get people to buy stupid fcking timeshares that they neither need nor want? They sell the sht out of them and convince them that it's the best thing for them.

Cook didn't grow up thinking he absolutely needed to go somewhere other than UM. If he goes elsewhere it'll be because those guys convinced him that he should leave the comfort of home and not go to a school where his brother and 3 teammates are going and where his family can see him whenever they want. Seems to me that THAT would be the tougher sales job, not the one that Corch Golden has.

Like blackcloud said, if Al gets whipped on Cook with all those factors in our favor after getting whipped for so many other local blue chippers, then he's failing in the area where he is supposed to be best.
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That's a fair answer.

Conversely, the fact that he has lined up three of Cook's teammates including his best friend & partner indicates he is pushing the right buttons. I find the whole soap opera mesmerizing but if indeed UM does get Cook, which are all unified in hoping, does that also mean some of you Golden haters will give him some credit?

I agree there are no 2nd place ribbons but the class he has so far is pretty impressive and, if it all stays together, would be the envy of most of college football with or without Cook.
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Stop with the melodrama. I don't hate Golden. I think he's a great guy and does great work 6 days a week. He just needs to fix his defense, or he's gonna dig himself a hole he can't get out of.
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This is all that needs to be said. This is exactly how I feel. If the guy is truly what I hope he is, then he changes the defense (and is willing to make any of the tough choices necessary to get that done). The rest of the nonsensical criticism and ad hominem attacks spouted off on this site have no basis in fact and do nothing to contribute to the quality of the board.
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Totally agree
 
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Read this from @mattyports last night, Palm Beach Post (I think)

The Under Armor game has a rule to announce on TV:
1- You cannot b currently committed to any school
2- You cannot re-commit to a school you just de-committed from

Therefore, Gators are out. Canes or FSU
 
I am all cane but in the postgame interview Dalvin said the team he is going to is going to use the Auburn style of offense next year. Tell me if I am wrong, but the only school I see using that offense between the three schools is Florida.
 
Even tho he basically gave it away "the school recruited me hard last week names Fsu coaches and miami just said "Miami" l" idk man he seems like a Nole to me but I know he really wants to play with yearb also so I bet whatever decision he made was tough , at least he didn't play us like a Alex Collins or Keith
 
JITOCANE said:
I am all cane but in the postgame interview Dalvin said the team he is going to is going to use the Auburn style of offense next year. Tell me if I am wrong, but the only school I see using that offense between the three schools is Florida.
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You're wrong. UF doesn't even have an OC so how would anyone know what style of offense they'll run until they actually hire somebody?
 
JITOCANE said:
I am all cane but in the postgame interview Dalvin said the team he is going to is going to use the Auburn style of offense next year. Tell me if I am wrong, but the only school I see using that offense between the three schools is Florida.
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i would say none of the florida schools run that offense.
 
JITOCANE said:
I am all cane but in the postgame interview Dalvin said the team he is going to is going to use the Auburn style of offense next year. Tell me if I am wrong, but the only school I see using that offense between the three schools is Florida.
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I didnt hear him say that. He said that the UF coaches told him they were going to run a similar style to auburn's.
 
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ok so if you saw the post game interview, when he is talking about the team that he is going to and he says they are going to use the Auburn offense, do you actually think the U will use that offense or is somebody making him false promises to recruit him
 
JITOCANE said:
ok so if you saw the post game interview, when he is talking about the team that he is going to and he says they are going to use the Auburn offense, do you actually think the U will use that offense or is somebody making him false promises to recruit him
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I didn't hear him say anything about an auburn offense
 
TG just tweeted the following:

"Dalvin Cook to BHS Network: "I'm very excited. I know the type of player I am and what I want. I'm going to change the (Florida) program."

This was Dalvin's response to a reporter from UF's 247 site. The reporter inserted the (Florida) part himself, not Dalvin. If becoming a "program changer" has him excited like he is seemingly indicating, would that really be something he will be at FSU? Being a "Program Changer" is the main thing that DC said stuck out in his head when talking to Al and our coaching staff during his in-home visit with them last week. Seems like this is really something that is intriguing to him..
 
CaneDro said:
JITOCANE said:
ok so if you saw the post game interview, when he is talking about the team that he is going to and he says they are going to use the Auburn offense, do you actually think the U will use that offense or is somebody making him false promises to recruit him
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I didn't hear him say anything about an auburn offense
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The QB transferring from Florida mentioned running that offense, hence his request
Was rated 4th best pocket passer in HS last year, so the new O doesn't fit his skill set.
Ya know, the NCAA is like the NFL where people just copy-cat
Looks like FLORIDUH is gonna overhaul their entire offense
 
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