Crawford is gone; Granted release per mother

http://articles.latimes.com/2014/jan/29/sports/la-sp-0130-college-basketball-graduates-20140130

Get that degree and move on — to a major-college sports program
NCAA rules let student-athletes with a year of eligibility left transfer and play at another college without sitting out a year if they have received a degree. Some mid-majors are seeing veteran players leave for bigger programs.

January 29, 2014 | By Chris Foster

What happened with Mike Moser in Vegas didn't stay in Vegas.

What happened was, after a freshman season spent languishing near the end of UCLA's basketball bench, Moser transferred to Nevada Las Vegas and had a breakout first season.

The forward averaged 14.0 points and 10.5 rebounds for the Runnin' Rebels as a sophomore in 2011-12, and even though he was slowed by elbow and hip injuries last season, he was a productive reserve, averaging 7.1 points and 6.1 rebounds.

But then he decided to move again — this time closer to his family in Portland.

Moser took advantage of an NCAA rule that allows athletes who have graduated to transfer without the penalty of sitting out a season. Having received a degree in sociology from UNLV last spring, he enrolled at Oregon, where he studies planning, policy and management — and is second on the Ducks with a 13.9 scoring average and the team leader in rebounds at 7.7.

"He filled a big hole for us," said Oregon Coach Dana Altman, whose team plays UCLA in Eugene on Thursday.

The rule that allowed Moser's transfer to Oregon is not new, but it is somewhat controversial. Russell Wilson put a spotlight on the rule when he left North Carolina State for Wisconsin in 2011 and led the Badgers to the Rose Bowl. On Sunday, he'll be at quarterback for the Seattle Seahawks in the Super Bowl.

What worked for Wilson and other athletes has left some coaches uneasy.

Duke Coach Mike Krzyzewski went as far as calling the rule a "farce." And even coaches whose teams have benefited from such transfers would like to see changes.

"I think we've reached a point with the epidemic of transfers that it would probably make sense to have everybody sit out a year regardless of circumstances," said Arizona State Coach Herb Sendek, whose second-leading scorer, Jermaine Marshall, left Penn State after graduating. "We really have a free agency market in the spring."

The Division I Leadership Council was expected to discuss the rule at the NCAA convention two weeks ago but the matter was tabled. One potential change to the rule would be to grant transferring graduate students an extra year of eligibility and then force them to sit out a season before they use it.

Those who like the rule as it is point out that players are getting their degrees, and argue it gives the player a small amount of control over his career. Opponents say the rule robs mid-major teams of talent while allowing more prominent programs to add experienced players.

Oregon has benefited from graduate student transfers the last four seasons: guard Jay-R Strowbridge in 2010-11, forward Olu Ashaolu in 2011-12, forward Arsalan Kazemi last season and now Moser.

The Ducks lost productive senior forwards E.J. Singler and Kazemi from last season's team, but Moser's arrival softened that blow.

Though he said Moser had "been a little inconsistent," Altman acknowledged Moser's important contributions for a team that has been ranked as high as 10th in the nation. Altman would not allow Moser to be interviewed for this article.

Moser averaged 4.7 minutes in 15 games for UCLA during the 2009-10 season, but he developed into one of the Mountain West Conference's top players after moving to UNLV.

Moser has said little about why he left UNLV, but Altman said, "He let it be known about the time of the Final Four that he was graduating and looking to leave."

UCLA Coach Steve Alford, who as New Mexico's coach faced Moser and UNLV during conference play, remembers a dominant player. "He's a guy in our league who put up points, inside and out, and rebounded," Alford said. "It looks like he's doing that again at Oregon."

Alford, who has coached at UCLA and Iowa as well as in smaller programs at Missouri State and New Mexico, laments that the mid-major schools "are the ones investing all the time and effort, and when a kid finally becomes a senior and you think you're going to get his best year, he ups and goes to an elite school. It's been a tough rule to swallow."

San Diego State forward Josh Davis sees it differently. He developed into a solid inside player at Tulane but graduated last spring and said he wanted to further his education and play on a bigger stage.

"The opportunity to play professionally and receive a master's degree was a win-win situation," said Davis, who is studying postsecondary educational leadership at San Diego State. "There is a little more exposure. People are able to see aspects of my game that I wasn't able to show at Tulane."

Davis is fourth nationally in rebounds, averaging 11.6 per game, and San Diego State is ranked fifth in the Associated Press media poll.

"This was a better opportunity that I couldn't pass up," Davis said.

Moser and Davis are not isolated cases. Guard DeAndre Kane left Marshall for Iowa State and is a big reason the Cyclones are ranked 16th. Evan Gordon of Indiana, Lasan Kromah of Connecticut, Coron Williams of Wake Forest and Antonio Barton of Tennessee have become key role players after transferring as graduate students.

"I don't know if the intent of the rule is what it has become," Arizona Coach Sean Miller said.

Miller has experience in the matter.

Mark Lyon, who played for Miller at Xavier, transferred to Arizona to rejoin his coach before the 2012-13 season. He then led the Wildcats in scoring.

"We play with the rules we're given," Miller said.
 
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Grolden's problem may be that he's recruiting high character players. It's more likely that these more readily see through his BS, and won't put up with it.

Grolden's a loser at so many levels.
 
This is the type of player who would cause a rift on the team,get him the **** out.....get down or lay down.... Why isn't anybody else complaining? He's just being a lil ***** waited til his senior year to act like a hoe
 
If he does graduate in may then he will be granted an additional year by the ncaa giving him two years to play where ever he goes. Crawford was part of the 2012 class and if he was a GT option then he most likely has his academics in order.

An if he does graduate he can transfer to any school he wants, that has room for him so I can see where he feels his options to leave may be better. As for the BCC talk, he doesn't need to go that route.

Go Canes

He can only play one year but he does have a redshirt left.

If graduates in 3 years than he gets his 4th and 5th year as playing years, it is an incentive by the NCAA to reward players for getting thier degrees on time or better yet early. Jacob cooker used this rule to get 2 years at Obama after leaving FSU.

Fall 2012 - freshman
Fall 2013 - Soph
Fall 2014 - JR
Fall 2015 - St

So if Crawford came in with any type of AP credits which would put him ahead, then combined with stay in school over the summer and he could have earned enough to graduate.

http://www.tampabay.com/hometeam/blog/plant-dbwr-antonio-crawford-switches-his-commitment-miami/12558/

I can't believe McCord is a senior and they are still playing around with moving his position, he was one of the premiere pass rushers in the country coming out high school ****.

Go Canes

Are you sure that's right? I don't think so. Unless the NCAA has created a waiver of the maximum of four playing years Crawford would have one more year to to play. Crawford played in 2012, 2013 & 2014. That's three years. He's never redshirted. So he has one more playing year remaining. Because the NCAA allows for a maximum career of four playing years.

Jacob Coker is a different example because he took a redshirt year his Fresh year (2011). So he transferred to Alabama having only played two years (2012 and 2013), whereas Crawford has already played for three years. So you're right, Coker had two years when he transferred, this year (2014) and next year (2015). But Crawford will only have one more year.

Miami has benefitted a lot from this grauduate transfer year rule in the past to land player like

2008 Xavier Shannon (transfered from FIU)

2013 Pat O’Donnell (Transferred from Cincy)
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/17/cincinnati-punter-transfers-to-miami-already-tops-depth-chart/

2013 David Gilbert (transfers from Wisconsin)
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/22560532/wisconsin-dl-david-gilbert-transferring-to-miami

2013 Justin Renfrow (transfers from Virginia)
http://www.stateoftheu.com/2013/8/10/4608708/football-adds-transfers-gilbert-renfrow

2014 Jake Heaps (transfered from Kansas)

I'm fairly certain that every last one of those guys you listed redshirted at some point in their career. None played five full seasons that I know of. No one is disagreeing with you about the graduate transfer rule, but instead people are disagreeing when you say that the rule allows guys to play five seasons. Unless I'm mistaken, it doesn't. What it does do is to allow those that have graduated to immediately play for another program instead of having to sit out a year which would normally end their career (5 to play 4 rule). Again, if I'm wrong, can you highlight some info that says otherwise? Thanks.
 
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If he does graduate in may then he will be granted an additional year by the ncaa giving him two years to play where ever he goes. Crawford was part of the 2012 class and if he was a GT option then he most likely has his academics in order.

An if he does graduate he can transfer to any school he wants, that has room for him so I can see where he feels his options to leave may be better. As for the BCC talk, he doesn't need to go that route.

Go Canes

He can only play one year but he does have a redshirt left.

If graduates in 3 years than he gets his 4th and 5th year as playing years, it is an incentive by the NCAA to reward players for getting thier degrees on time or better yet early. Jacob cooker used this rule to get 2 years at Obama after leaving FSU.

Fall 2012 - freshman
Fall 2013 - Soph
Fall 2014 - JR
Fall 2015 - St

So if Crawford came in with any type of AP credits which would put him ahead, then combined with stay in school over the summer and he could have earned enough to graduate.

http://www.tampabay.com/hometeam/blog/plant-dbwr-antonio-crawford-switches-his-commitment-miami/12558/

I can't believe McCord is a senior and they are still playing around with moving his position, he was one of the premiere pass rushers in the country coming out high school ****.

Go Canes

Are you sure that's right? I don't think so. Unless the NCAA has created a waiver of the maximum of four playing years Crawford would have one more year to to play. Crawford played in 2012, 2013 & 2014. That's three years. He's never redshirted. So he has one more playing year remaining. Because the NCAA allows for a maximum career of four playing years.

Jacob Coker is a different example because he took a redshirt year his Fresh year (2011). So he transferred to Alabama having only played two years (2012 and 2013), whereas Crawford has already played for three years. So you're right, Coker had two years when he transferred, this year (2014) and next year (2015). But Crawford will only have one more year.

Miami has benefitted a lot from this grauduate transfer year rule in the past to land player like

2008 Xavier Shannon (transfered from FIU)

2013 Pat O’Donnell (Transferred from Cincy)
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/17/cincinnati-punter-transfers-to-miami-already-tops-depth-chart/

2013 David Gilbert (transfers from Wisconsin)
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/22560532/wisconsin-dl-david-gilbert-transferring-to-miami

2013 Justin Renfrow (transfers from Virginia)
http://www.stateoftheu.com/2013/8/10/4608708/football-adds-transfers-gilbert-renfrow
2014 Jake Heaps (transfered from Kansas)

Meh...none of those guys played 5 seasons like you said.
 
This is the type of player who would cause a rift on the team,get him the **** out.....get down or lay down.... Why isn't anybody else complaining? He's just being a lil ***** waited til his senior year to act like a hoe

Marsha whats wrong? "Peter hit me in the nose with the football"
 
We need the depth, but if he doesn't want to stick it out..better that he leaves and gives himself a chance elsewhere. I will admit that he probably got a raw deal here. I bet he wished he had done what Vernon Davis did and just bailed from jump..

One thing I will say though..AC from all accounts, balled out last Spring. Was making plays, had some interceptions and was a Greentree star. But it didn't seem like he was rewarded for it when the season rolled around. Not saying he was our best CB, but maybe he feels he deserves a better shot then being the Nickelback.

I wish him well. I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the CFL somewhere in two years or on Monday Night Football playing for some NFL team. He is boom or bust.
 
AC is top 2 CB in our roster (elder is up there too).. he is sure getting the raw end of the deal here amigos.

I cant wait to see Folden's fat, greasy face in the streets, i am going to act like 2 pac- "Makaveli" with an onslaught of verbal abuse directed towards his b*tch a$$ and then i am going to follow up by throwing a veggie pizza in his face. I will proceed by walking away in an amicable manner.
 
AC is top 2 CB in our roster (elder is up there too).. he is sure getting the raw end of the deal here amigos.

I cant wait to see Folden's fat, greasy face in the streets, i am going to act like 2 pac- "Makaveli" with an onslaught of verbal abuse directed towards his b*tch a$$ and then i am going to follow up by throwing a veggie pizza in his face. I will proceed by walking away in an amicable manner.

Lost me at veggie pizza.
 
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A police "watch order" was granted by MPD at Folden's house since anonymous pizzas orders were made to his crib.

Folden was shooked and very upset since he is a meat lovers type of guy. His stomach is sensitive to vegetables and sh*t.
 
A police "watch order" was granted by MPD at Folden's house since anonymous pizzas orders were made to his crib.

Folden was shooked and very upset since he is a meat lovers type of guy. His stomach is sensitive to vegetables and sh*t.
:jordan:
 
One of these days, people are going to learn to never engage in a conversation with Paranos. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but someday.
 
Whatever happened to the days when players fought for a chance to start, especially at the U? Now kids dont get their way and they bolt! Just like the new way of committing and decommitting, just a joke!

Antonio - Stop tweeting about it and making a Drama Show about it! I rooted for you and will continue to root for you, but think this is a bad decision for you
 
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Man that JC Jackson miss from a couple years ago coming back to bite us lol
 
blah, blah, blah he quit, blah, blah, blah he couldn't handle being the number 4 guy, blah blah....

Can we talk about the more pertinent issue here; how many players have either left this team, or did not qualify to enroll here since Golden has been our corch? I've been following the Canes for a long, long time and I cannot recall this sort of attrition during anyone's tenure here.
 
Paranos wrong again. Now he's stating what we already all knew and getting off the original topic.
 
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