Corn Elder laughs at "South Florida" talent

[Cane In The Membrane]

Math is not their friend. They've gone full potato.

http://nationalhsfootball.com/2014/...gn-with-fbs-programs-on-national-signing-day/

So you don't care about real recruiting, you just want Florida to have more.

I don't even know what you and the other cat are even arguing at this point you've moved the ball so many times. I know you have failed horribly at basic math and statistical concepts such as correlations and ratios.

Who is arguing that we shouldn't be recruiting talent from other states?

My point is simple. There's a misconception out there that somehow South Florida produces far and away the best football players in the country, and that we should be beating the brains out of every other team because we're located right in the heart of it.

I'm saying that might have been true in the 80's, but times have changed. There is no more talent in South Florida today than anywhere else in the South.

I'm saying that what's changed isn't the athleticism of the kids, it's the fight and work ethic in those kids. Back in the 80's, you had riots in the streets, crime through the roof, and the kids coming up in that era were tough as nails. Today, they're pampered and coddled from the time they're optimist. That's the difference between then and now.

Prove it. Last time I checked, I saw there were 21 nfl players from dade, 16 from Broward, and 12 from PBC. **** St. Thomas Aquinas just put 4-6 kids in the draft LAST YEAR alone. Every sec head coach knows south Florida has the best talent.

For the people who are bringing up examples of Oregon and Oklahoma, why would they consistently go to south Florida when they have regional talent as well. No one is California and Texas areas have no talent. They are saying south Florida has the most talent. Which is a fact.

NFL players by state, per capita:



You can see that the south in general, not Florida per se, is where the talent comes from. The stats that only look at metro areas skew toward Miami because we have the biggest metro area in the South.

 

[AntwanJ306]

You're trying to explain the internet to a German Shepherd. Forget it and go watch the Monday night game.

 

[Cane In The Membrane]

For the people who are bringing up examples of Oregon and Oklahoma, why would they consistently go to south Florida when they have regional talent as well.

I brought those schools up, and you made my point for me. There is PLENTY of talent that doesn't live in South Florida. Saying we have "more" doesn't help us at all, because no one else is just recruiting from one area.

C'mon man you have to be trolling. What's easier trying to convince Joseph Yearby and Anthony Moten to come to Miami or trying to get Royce Freeman and Adoree to come across the country?

Who said we are should only recruit south Florida? No one. Are we only recruiting south Florida? No. People just believe (crazy notion but here it comes) that south Florida should be the center of our success. I mean it's only the most talented area in the country, so why should we not lock it down?

Not to mention, the point you're trying to make changes with every post you make.

Nobody is arguing with that. I personally think 80% of our recruiting should be done in Florida, the majority of that in South Florida.

Just saying, don't fool yourself in to thinking we have some natural talent advantage over other southern schools, because we don't.

 

[User-4525]

For the people who are bringing up examples of Oregon and Oklahoma, why would they consistently go to south Florida when they have regional talent as well.

I brought those schools up, and you made my point for me. There is PLENTY of talent that doesn't live in South Florida. Saying we have "more" doesn't help us at all, because no one else is just recruiting from one area.

C'mon man you have to be trolling. What's easier trying to convince Joseph Yearby and Anthony Moten to come to Miami or trying to get Royce Freeman and Adoree to come across the country?

Who said we are should only recruit south Florida? No one. Are we only recruiting south Florida? No. People just believe (crazy notion but here it comes) that south Florida should be the center of our success. I mean it's only the most talented area in the country, so why should we not lock it down?

Not to mention, the point you're trying to make changes with every post you make.

Nobody is arguing with that. I personally think 80% of our recruiting should be done in Florida, the majority of that in South Florida.

Just saying, don't fool yourself in to thinking we have some natural talent advantage over other southern schools, because we don't.

I'm not fooling myself. We ARE LOCATED IN THE MOST FERTILE RECRUITING GROUND IN THE COUNTRY. That is an advantage.

 

[Cane In The Membrane]

For the people who are bringing up examples of Oregon and Oklahoma, why would they consistently go to south Florida when they have regional talent as well.

I brought those schools up, and you made my point for me. There is PLENTY of talent that doesn't live in South Florida. Saying we have "more" doesn't help us at all, because no one else is just recruiting from one area.

C'mon man you have to be trolling. What's easier trying to convince Joseph Yearby and Anthony Moten to come to Miami or trying to get Royce Freeman and Adoree to come across the country?

Who said we are should only recruit south Florida? No one. Are we only recruiting south Florida? No. People just believe (crazy notion but here it comes) that south Florida should be the center of our success. I mean it's only the most talented area in the country, so why should we not lock it down?

Not to mention, the point you're trying to make changes with every post you make.

Nobody is arguing with that. I personally think 80% of our recruiting should be done in Florida, the majority of that in South Florida.

Just saying, don't fool yourself in to thinking we have some natural talent advantage over other southern schools, because we don't.

I'm not fooling myself. We ARE LOCATED IN THE MOST FERTILE RECRUITING GROUND IN THE COUNTRY. That is an advantage.

All caps so it must be true. We're right there in the thick of it. We don't have a disadvantage, but I'm not going as far as to say that we have an advantage over schools like Florida State, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, LSU, Texas A&M, USC, UCLA, etc who are located in equally fertile recruiting grounds.

 

[canes732]

Why is Howard 3rd string did he get worse or everyone else get better?

 

[SolidCane]

Some of the dumbest people in the world reside on this board.

 

[User-4525]

This is an advantage.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/hssports/2014/05/south-florida-leaves-a-mark-in-nfl-draft-again.html

http://elitedaily.com/sports/10-high-schools-produce-nfl-players-america/608500/

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...roduces-most-nfl-draftees-in-past-three-years

Duke Johnson, Denzel perryman, rakeem Cato, amari cooper, Denver Kirkland, Alex Collins, Fabian Moreau, Traveon Henry, John miller, Joey bosa, Avery young, Isaiah mckenzie, Marshall Morgan, Mcgarrett Kings, Skai Moore, etc etc. Advantage

All those guys have already proven or shown major flashes in college what they can do against the toughest competition in the country.
Some of these guys we barely looked at or decided to pass on

 

[BALLHAWKU]

For the people who are bringing up examples of Oregon and Oklahoma, why would they consistently go to south Florida when they have regional talent as well.

I brought those schools up, and you made my point for me. There is PLENTY of talent that doesn't live in South Florida. Saying we have "more" doesn't help us at all, because no one else is just recruiting from one area.

oklahomas best player on the team is from FL Eric Striker . Same goes with Duke we seen that fist hand on game day.Not saying there isnt plenty of talent that is from other areas but FL leads the way for sure.

 

[CaneAlmighty]

I think it bears mentioning that most of the "South Florida" talent is skewed toward "Skill" players.
One can only recruit so many skill players per class. And for the most part we've been getting our share.

 

[BALLHAWKU]

South Florida puts it share of LBs in the NFL too

 

[User-4525]

Do you know where Florida state is on the map? I don't think any one can say within a 1 hour 30 minute radius Florida state has as much talent surrounding them as UM does. UM has 50+ nfl players that grew up within a 1 hour and 30 minute radius of them. How many does FSU have? Tell me again how that's not an advantage? Do you honestly believe what you just typed? **** you can ask the Tallahassee coaches on this forum and they'll tell you tally is not even in the same stratosphere as south Florida.


I've backed up my statements with numbers and specific names. You've yet to do to same to disprove UM has a built-in advantage.

 

[2Focusd804]

why isn't antwan banned? is he the comedic relief?

 

[BALLHAWKU]

Do you know where Florida state is on the map? I don't think any one can say within a 1 hour 30 minute radius Florida state has as much talent surrounding them as UM does. UM has 50+ nfl players that grew up within a 1 hour and 30 minute radius of them. How many does FSU have? Tell me again how that's not an advantage? Do you honestly believe what you just typed? **** you can ask the Tallahassee coaches on this forum and they'll tell you tally is not even in the same stratosphere as south Florida.

Another fun fact when Miami was on probation they won a championship, when the cloud was around Miami for the last 3 years the won a championship? Can people figure out why?

 

[Dwinstitles]

This is an advantage.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/hssports/2014/05/south-florida-leaves-a-mark-in-nfl-draft-again.html

http://elitedaily.com/sports/10-high-schools-produce-nfl-players-america/608500/

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...roduces-most-nfl-draftees-in-past-three-years

Duke Johnson, Denzel perryman, rakeem Cato, amari cooper, Denver Kirkland, Alex Collins, Fabian Moreau, Traveon Henry, John miller, Joey bosa, Avery young, Isaiah mckenzie, Marshall Morgan, Mcgarrett Kings, Skai Moore, etc etc. Advantage

All those guys have already proven or shown major flashes in college what they can do against the toughest competition in the country.
Some of these guys we barely looked at or decided to pass on

Butch would of got all them studs

 

[BALLHAWKU]

why isn't antwan banned? is he the comedic relief?

because they feel sorry for him because he is retarded?

 

[SolidCane]

This is an advantage.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/hssports/2014/05/south-florida-leaves-a-mark-in-nfl-draft-again.html

http://elitedaily.com/sports/10-high-schools-produce-nfl-players-america/608500/

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...roduces-most-nfl-draftees-in-past-three-years

Duke Johnson, Denzel perryman, rakeem Cato, amari cooper, Denver Kirkland, Alex Collins, Fabian Moreau, Traveon Henry, John miller, Joey bosa, Avery young, Isaiah mckenzie, Marshall Morgan, Mcgarrett Kings, Skai Moore, etc etc. Advantage

All those guys have already proven or shown major flashes in college what they can do against the toughest competition in the country.
Some of these guys we barely looked at or decided to pass on

Butch would of got all them studs

Not just got them, he would have developed them into first round picks.

 

[Lingo]

Elder was quite a coup for this coaching staff. For as much as they misfire on the field, they get after it on the trail and have found some creative ways to get guys here. Hasn't always worked of but they continue to find talent all over the place.

lets be real here....Corn found us. We didn't recruit him all year. It was his dream to be a Cane and he held out and pushed the issue all the way beyond NSD to make it happen. This is not a knock on the staff, its just the reality of this situation.

Is that what happened? Hmmm I don't remember it like that but I could definitely be wrong

Corn wanted to play Football and Basketball coming out of highschool that's why he waited after NSD, if I remember correctly only some of the teams recruiting him would let him play both.

 

[Dwinstitles]

This is an advantage.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/hssports/2014/05/south-florida-leaves-a-mark-in-nfl-draft-again.html

http://elitedaily.com/sports/10-high-schools-produce-nfl-players-america/608500/

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...roduces-most-nfl-draftees-in-past-three-years

Duke Johnson, Denzel perryman, rakeem Cato, amari cooper, Denver Kirkland, Alex Collins, Fabian Moreau, Traveon Henry, John miller, Joey bosa, Avery young, Isaiah mckenzie, Marshall Morgan, Mcgarrett Kings, Skai Moore, etc etc. Advantage

All those guys have already proven or shown major flashes in college what they can do against the toughest competition in the country.
Some of these guys we barely looked at or decided to pass on

Butch would of got all them studs

Not just got them, he would have developed them into first round picks.

That's the difference I think AG is an ok recruiter he gets too much credit but the NSD misses r brutal.

 

[SigEp77]

Not to mention, the point you're trying to make changes with every post you make.

Lies.

Not at all, that is absolute truth. I read every god**** post made here and you have moved the target every ******* time you have been discredited and proven wrong with facts, stats, links and everything else. You and your minions have come back with anecdotes and tales of what once was with zero facts.

Joecane ethered your *** when he posted that spreadsheet. Just give up.