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Coley's offense gets ****ted on

Amazing to see so-called "fans" attacking a former player in order to defend assjole corches.

With that said, I find it unbelievable that a former pro player doesn't seem to trust the process.
 
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blackvern said:
Nah..that guy doesnt know what he was talking abot..Dorsett was horrible on screens... Walford and DUke were better options
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Though coley should get heat for his crappy plays but i agree with this statement dorsett is a speed guy yea but he isnt shifty, hes no tavon austin
 
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Few things...


*I think Dorsett gets too much flack for his hands and I think it stems from those drops in the ND game. I don't recall any blatant hand issues beyond that game.

*How can you accuse Dorsett of being a poor intermediate receiver when we seldom run intermediate routes with our guys? Dorsett should be in the slot causing nightmares. That speed is too much for any LB or Safety to handle.


And finally... (hate to bring this up again but)


*When you watch/listen to another OC talk then you'll realize how pedestrian we are on offense. Dorsett would be a nightmare in an innovative spread scheme. Nothing gives defenses problems like a good outside WR combined with a speedy slot. (i.e. Coley on the outside with Dorsett in the slot)


When you watch Coley's offense you don't see any innovation, any concepts. I don't know how anybody can watch USC, Baylor, etc...and honestly say that Coley is a good OC.

The talent on offense would make a real OC drool.

QB - Kaaya
HB - Duke (with Yearby behind him)
WR - Coley
WR - Dorsett
WR - Waters
WR/TE - Walford + whoever


C'mon man. SMH
 
Coach Macho said:
Few things...


*I think Dorsett gets too much flack for his hands and I think it stems from those drops in the ND game. I don't recall any blatant hand issues beyond that game.

*How can you accuse Dorsett of being a poor intermediate receiver when we seldom run intermediate routes with our guys? Dorsett should be in the slot causing nightmares. That speed is too much for any LB or Safety to handle.


And finally... (hate to bring this up again but)


*When you watch/listen to another OC talk then you'll realize how pedestrian we are on offense. Dorsett would be a nightmare in an innovative spread scheme. Nothing gives defenses problems like a good outside WR combined with a speedy slot. (i.e. Coley on the outside with Dorsett in the slot)


When you watch Coley's offense you don't see any innovation, any concepts. I don't know how anybody can watch USC, Baylor, etc...and honestly say that Coley is a good OC.

The talent on offense would make a real OC drool.

QB - Kaaya
HB - Duke (with Yearby behind him)
WR - Coley
WR - Dorsett
WR - Waters
WR/TE - Walford + whoever


C'mon man. SMH
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You need a triggerman ...... kaaya was ok but at the end of the day he was a freshman
 
Agree.

PD has made substantial improvements to his game since his 1st 2 seasons.

Truthfully, he should be a RS-Senior next year. If he were, people would be talking about a legit shot at the Biletnikoff Award.

I'm not sure if he's a 1st rounder this year ... But I think he will be a helluva player at the next level, based on having a pro OC who will maximize his skills.

I also think Coley and PD were misused by not giving them enough slot opportunities. Berrios should not have played last season, between having PD, Coley, and Lewis as options to put into the slot.

But our staff makes playing time promises to get kids, while crapping on the kids already here.

That 3-WR set you reference would have been awesome! Lewis is the first guy off the bench, or you could have brought Dobard inline, and split Clive out wide.

No clue why we were rushing Berrios on the field ... Well, actually I know exactly why we did it. I just don't agree it should have been done.

Coach Macho said:
Few things...


*I think Dorsett gets too much flack for his hands and I think it stems from those drops in the ND game. I don't recall any blatant hand issues beyond that game.

*How can you accuse Dorsett of being a poor intermediate receiver when we seldom run intermediate routes with our guys? Dorsett should be in the slot causing nightmares. That speed is too much for any LB or Safety to handle.


And finally... (hate to bring this up again but)


*When you watch/listen to another OC talk then you'll realize how pedestrian we are on offense. Dorsett would be a nightmare in an innovative spread scheme. Nothing gives defenses problems like a good outside WR combined with a speedy slot. (i.e. Coley on the outside with Dorsett in the slot)


When you watch Coley's offense you don't see any innovation, any concepts. I don't know how anybody can watch USC, Baylor, etc...and honestly say that Coley is a good OC.

The talent on offense would make a real OC drool.

QB - Kaaya
HB - Duke (with Yearby behind him)
WR - Coley
WR - Dorsett
WR - Waters
WR/TE - Walford + whoever


C'mon man. SMH
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millertime26 said:
Coach Macho said:
Few things...


*I think Dorsett gets too much flack for his hands and I think it stems from those drops in the ND game. I don't recall any blatant hand issues beyond that game.

*How can you accuse Dorsett of being a poor intermediate receiver when we seldom run intermediate routes with our guys? Dorsett should be in the slot causing nightmares. That speed is too much for any LB or Safety to handle.


And finally... (hate to bring this up again but)


*When you watch/listen to another OC talk then you'll realize how pedestrian we are on offense. Dorsett would be a nightmare in an innovative spread scheme. Nothing gives defenses problems like a good outside WR combined with a speedy slot. (i.e. Coley on the outside with Dorsett in the slot)


When you watch Coley's offense you don't see any innovation, any concepts. I don't know how anybody can watch USC, Baylor, etc...and honestly say that Coley is a good OC.

The talent on offense would make a real OC drool.

QB - Kaaya
HB - Duke (with Yearby behind him)
WR - Coley
WR - Dorsett
WR - Waters
WR/TE - Walford + whoever


C'mon man. SMH
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You need a triggerman ...... kaaya was ok but at the end of the day he was a freshman
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Kaaya was more than just "ok" ,and he played better than a lot of upperclassmen QBs.

I don't believe him being a freshman had that much to do with Dorsett not getting the ball more.
 
Remember the fish rots from the head down. I believe that Frauden puts the handcuffs on Coley. He believes in a passive D which limits the big play. I bet he has the same philosophy on the offense. He coaches scared. It is hard to evaluate anyone on this team,players and coaches, when his style is to limit mistakes on both sides of ball. This guy flat out sucks. He does not let his athletes play without being scared of making a mistake.
 
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MIATL513 said:
Agree.

PD has made substantial improvements to his game since his 1st 2 seasons.

Truthfully, he should be a RS-Senior next year. If he were, people would be talking about a legit shot at the Biletnikoff Award.

I'm not sure if he's a 1st rounder this year ... But I think he will be a helluva player at the next level, based on having a pro OC who will maximize his skills.

I also think Coley and PD were misused by not giving them enough slot opportunities. Berrios should not have played last season, between having PD, Coley, and Lewis as options to put into the slot.

But our staff makes playing time promises to get kids, while crapping on the kids already here.

That 3-WR set you reference would have been awesome! Lewis is the first guy off the bench, or you could have brought Dobard inline, and split Clive out wide.

No clue why we were rushing Berrios on the field ... Well, actually I know exactly why we did it. I just don't agree it should have been done.

Coach Macho said:
Few things...


*I think Dorsett gets too much flack for his hands and I think it stems from those drops in the ND game. I don't recall any blatant hand issues beyond that game.

*How can you accuse Dorsett of being a poor intermediate receiver when we seldom run intermediate routes with our guys? Dorsett should be in the slot causing nightmares. That speed is too much for any LB or Safety to handle.


And finally... (hate to bring this up again but)


*When you watch/listen to another OC talk then you'll realize how pedestrian we are on offense. Dorsett would be a nightmare in an innovative spread scheme. Nothing gives defenses problems like a good outside WR combined with a speedy slot. (i.e. Coley on the outside with Dorsett in the slot)


When you watch Coley's offense you don't see any innovation, any concepts. I don't know how anybody can watch USC, Baylor, etc...and honestly say that Coley is a good OC.

The talent on offense would make a real OC drool.

QB - Kaaya
HB - Duke (with Yearby behind him)
WR - Coley
WR - Dorsett
WR - Waters
WR/TE - Walford + whoever


C'mon man. SMH
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I'd like to know exactly why we rushed Berrios on the field.
 
Fisch used to run dorsett in the slot a lot, you cant run screens with him, his speed is amazing, he reminds me of desean jackson, desean was a little more ellusive but very similar game
 
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Coach Macho said:
Few things...


*I think Dorsett gets too much flack for his hands and I think it stems from those drops in the ND game. I don't recall any blatant hand issues beyond that game.

*How can you accuse Dorsett of being a poor intermediate receiver when we seldom run intermediate routes with our guys? Dorsett should be in the slot causing nightmares. That speed is too much for any LB or Safety to handle.


And finally... (hate to bring this up again but)


*When you watch/listen to another OC talk then you'll realize how pedestrian we are on offense. Dorsett would be a nightmare in an innovative spread scheme. Nothing gives defenses problems like a good outside WR combined with a speedy slot. (i.e. Coley on the outside with Dorsett in the slot)


When you watch Coley's offense you don't see any innovation, any concepts. I don't know how anybody can watch USC, Baylor, etc...and honestly say that Coley is a good OC.

The talent on offense would make a real OC drool.

QB - Kaaya
HB - Duke (with Yearby behind him)
WR - Coley
WR - Dorsett
WR - Waters
WR/TE - Walford + whoever


C'mon man. SMH
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I agree with this, gotta look at who he came from, jimbos route combos arent very innovative, he would line up in odd routes, but the routes themselves arent exotic, he would out athlete people, coley should throw that pro crap out the window and start running more spread, we should have hired a passing game coordinator in the off season but of course coley and his ego wouldnt do that
 
I gave coley the benefit of the doubt (stupidly), but the guy is a glorified recruiter. He should not be the offensive coordinator for a "big time" program. One of Goldens many mistakes was to litter his coaching staff with yes men and recruiters. We most likely have the worst coaching staff in the country.
 
Jimbo basically told him to walk rather then give him some play calling duties. Should have been a red flag.

His recruiting is the only thing keeping him afloat with the fans and even that has been underwhelming based on expectations if everyone is honest with themselves.
 
Some of you guys actually expected a first time coordinator to knock it out of the park his 2nd year with a freshmen QB....amazing.
 
CFLACANE said:
Some of you guys actually expected a first time coordinator to knock it out of the park his 2nd year with a freshmen QB....amazing.
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University of Miami should never have a first time coordinator. Even Ice, Beard and Hurlie are coaching reaches. Melvin and Paul Williams have college experience but have proven nothing. Only coach that has proven himself with past and present experience is Scott. Grohlden does not surround himself with proven college coaches. That's a problem.
 
CFLACANE said:
Some of you guys actually expected a first time coordinator to knock it out of the park his 2nd year with a freshmen QB....amazing.
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He was the OC at FIU and in Title he was the OC at FSU, so this was not his first time being a play caller. Also Jedd Fisch went in to his 1st year as a OC (1 year at U fo Minnesota as OC in 2009) at Miami when he lit up the ACC, so that argument is needs more teeth. UM's offensive lack of explosive offensive production is a complicated issue which is a result of various problems. But I do think that Coley definitely has a lot to improve on because I just can't get over Stephen Morris's regression from where he was headed under Jedd Fisch, to how he ended up with James Coley.

Hopefully Coley spends this off season touring some schools with offensive geniuses.

Go Canes
 
duke4heisman said:
CFLACANE said:
Some of you guys actually expected a first time coordinator to knock it out of the park his 2nd year with a freshmen QB....amazing.
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University of Miami should never have a first time coordinator. Even Ice, Beard and Hurlie are coaching reaches. Melvin and Paul Williams have college experience but have proven nothing. Only coach that has proven himself with past and present experience is Scott. Grohlden does not surround himself with proven college coaches. That's a problem.
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Ice is coaching RB's which generally is where you put you a coach that is a great recruiter but doesn't have to be strong technical coach (but he does know his X's & O's). As for Hurlie Brown he is not a reach he has coached defense before an yes he would better as a DB coach but in the same breath he has done a very good job with with LB's, he will most like have two LB's playing in the NFL come September. Kevin Beard will be a beast of WR coach because he was a technician as a player an is following suite as a coach. All them if let go by the next coach at Miami will be snapped up by other power 5 FBS programs within a week.

Go Canes
 
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CFLACANE said:
Some of you guys actually expected a first time coordinator to knock it out of the park his 2nd year with a freshmen QB....amazing.
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1st college playoff appearance would've been knocking it out of the park. No one expected that. Whose choice was it to go with a freshman QB, who happened to outplay several experienced QBs we faced? Too many excuses.
 
Paranos said:
duke4heisman said:
CFLACANE said:
Some of you guys actually expected a first time coordinator to knock it out of the park his 2nd year with a freshmen QB....amazing.
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University of Miami should never have a first time coordinator. Even Ice, Beard and Hurlie are coaching reaches. Melvin and Paul Williams have college experience but have proven nothing. Only coach that has proven himself with past and present experience is Scott. Grohlden does not surround himself with proven college coaches. That's a problem.
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Ice is coaching RB's which generally is where you put you a coach that is a great recruiter but doesn't have to be strong technical coach (but he does know his X's & O's). As for Hurlie Brown he is not a reach he has coached defense before an yes he would better as a DB coach but in the same breath he has done a very good job with with LB's, he will most like have two LB's playing in the NFL come September. Kevin Beard will be a beast of WR coach because he was a technician as a player an is following suite as a coach. All them if let go by the next coach at Miami will be snapped up by other power 5 FBS programs within a week.

Go Canes
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Dude, I don't care how good they've done in high school or how good they were were as players. They are reaches at the major college level.
 
Era66 said:
Remember the fish rots from the head down. I believe that Frauden puts the handcuffs on Coley. He believes in a passive D which limits the big play. I bet he has the same philosophy on the offense. He coaches scared. It is hard to evaluate anyone on this team,players and coaches, when his style is to limit mistakes on both sides of ball. This guy flat out sucks. He does not let his athletes play without being scared of making a mistake.
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THIS! Have seen Coley angry and frustrated at Golden many times during games last season. In fact, I am surprised he is still here.
 
CFLACANE said:
Some of you guys actually expected a first time coordinator to knock it out of the park his 2nd year with a freshmen QB....amazing.
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He's not a first time coordinator at all. His offense is stale and fails to maximize the weapons he has at his disposal.
Dude forced that screen pass to S. Coley the entire season and it got us maybe 1 first down. That's poor play calling.
 
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