Coaching search update

[sebastian91]

Petersen would be a bad fit here.

Maybe, but I thought Jimmy Johnson was going to be a bad fit, too. Erickson I definitely thought was a bad fit, and his inability to keep the train rolling after Jimmy's players were gone left the cupboard bare for Butch. I don't think Peterson would come here anyway, but I'd take him over Strong.

 

[nycane]

just give butch an interview.

I get the feeling he has already had an interview. I am not an insider, but that's what I believe based on what we've seen.

i wouldnt be surprised. he has had communication with them for a long time. he knew golden was a goner.

 

[Golden Era]

Butch would be great and Dorsey is logical BUT we need a good DC that utilises South Florida talent.

 

[L A M P]

He had elite defenses at South Carolina, Florida and Louisville. I think Texas is the anomaly, not the other way around. And he would be inheriting a defense with a ton of talent that fits his system.

Would kill it at Miami. Let him bring in Dorsey and we would win big.

 

[nope44]

Your suggestion is to pair a first time OC with a defensive minded coach? How does this help us on offense?

Dorsey is a rising star. Cam Newton is the talk of the NFL and he is playing smart. Offensive coordinator at a big school is the logical next step for him. The fit with Kaaya is obvious.

Kapernick has a better qb rating than Cam. If I'm not mistaken, Cam is having his worst year and is only completing 54% of his passes.

Using Cam to support Dorsey is a very poor argument.

 

[Klamalama]

I'm half aroused, half depressed by this.

Butch sounds like he's in full mob boss mode visiting heavy hitters around town for back of restaurant meetings where he makes peace and burries hatchets.

Strong was appealing at Louisville, but he's having a Golden-like experience at a big time program and his offense is dreadful. Even more unsettling, the defensive guru is getting shredded. Which Strong would we be getting?

Exactly like Fraulden; moved up a level and got exposed. I believe it's called the Peter Principle: promoted to a level of incompetence.

Butch, on the other hand, is returning to his proven level of confidence: college football.

 

[Dirty Sprite]

Best thing about this post = money not an issue.

Worst= Charlie Strong

Those who think Strong is a bad option but Herman and Fuentes are great options, i cant take seriously.

Those who think Chip Kelly wouldn't have more success at UT then Strong I can't take seriously.

Chip Kelly won how many national championships at Oregon?? Unlike Herman at Houston, Strong wasn't gift wrapped a loaded team in a weak conference.

If Chip Kelly was at Texas you'd be talking about how he needs more time to build his team up.

 

[JimmyJohnsonsHair]

Dorsey can't be worse than Coley at playing calling.

Agreed. Ken was always a great student of the game, even when he played here. He was never physically gifted but he squeezed the absolute most out of his opportunity by always being extremely prepared and focused. I think he will be a great OC someday. Ideally I'd prefer a Tom Herman type of offense but we could do a lot worse than Dorsey as OC, IMO.

 

[Dwinstitles]

i was gonna *** u up d if this wasnt bout butch but u good brah, its fkin happening ladies n gents the return of the fkin u

 

[Comma7201]

Best thing about this post = money not an issue.

Worst= Charlie Strong

Those who think Strong is a bad option but Herman and Fuentes are great options, i cant take seriously.

Those who think Chip Kelly wouldn't have more success at UT then Strong I can't take seriously.

Chip Kelly won how many national championships at Oregon?? Unlike Herman at Houston, Strong wasn't gift wrapped a loaded team in a weak conference.

If Chip Kelly was at Texas you'd be talking about how Chip he needs more time to build his team up.

Chip was winning 10+ games a year with 2&3 star players.

 

[DMoney]

Kapernick has a better qb rating than Cam. If I'm not mistaken, Cam is having his worst year and is only completing 54% of his passes.

Using Cam to support Dorsey is a very poor argument.

Have you watched Cam? He's an MVP candidate.

His numbers are low because he is surrounded by bums. Ted Ginn dropping a perfect pass last night sums up what he's dealing with. And his biggest improvement has been decision-making, which speaks well of Dorsey.

 

[252cane]

While I'm a fan of Dorsey getting in on the offensive staff (Obvious choice for QB coach), I'm not sure I would hand him the reigns as an O-Coordinator. He's only been Cam's position coach for a little less than two seasons and it's not like he's learning from an offensive guru as an O-Coordinator.

What I do know is that Dorsey knows how to dissect film and learn quickly (He's known as a film room warrior in his days at Miami), so I would definitely bring him in as an assistant OC under the tutelage of an established coordinator. He should be ready to take the reigns in no time.

The only argument I can see people making the case for Dorsey as an OC is that Fisch had minimal OC experience (One year with Minny 2009, albeit a very bad year) and three years of QB coaching before taking the reigns as Miami's coordinator. However, Fisch's offenses were just average in two years so that should be considered if Miami decides to make Dorsey the exclusive play caller.


The potential Butch hire? I'm loving it!

This is dorsey third season as the official qb coach. He has been working with newton even when he was under chud and shula.

 

[Notsince1985]

I don't love Charlie Strong, so don't jump down my throat, and he's probably my 5th choice, but I don't think he sucks, and I don't get the HATE for him. I'd rather Butch, Herman, Fuente, Richt, but I wouldn't start flying banners on day 1 if Strong was hired. I might on day 4, but not day 1. He killed it at Louisville, he had great defenses at USC, UF and UL, he kills it recruiting South Florida, and I don't think he was a good fit for Texas. Now, a great coach should be a good fit, or make it work anywhere, which is why he's 5th or so on my list, but again, I don't get he HATE.

 

[section9]

Not questioning info, but rather, why Strong vs Herman or Fuente or (insert name here)? Curious there. He's struggling mightily in Texas.

Next up, it sounds like they haven't really begun the process? They need to be putting feelers out ASAP if they haven't. I realize a coach already in a job won't be coming now, but that process needs to be underway so the class can be assembled. I have nightmares about the last few times this happened.

SC and VaTech are probably going to outbid us for Herman, anyway.

Strong is having trouble adapting to Texas.

 

[bosherthegreat]

Holy god fellas. It sounds like we actually care now.

 

[canes41590]

DMoney, what are your thoughts on Skrong? It seems to me that he benefited from having Bridgewater bail him out as a coach. I'm not so sure he's good HC material. Seems to be a better DC than HC.

I've discussed this in other posts, but I think he'd kill it here. He is an elite evaluator of talent (like Butch) who put 14 guys in the pros the last two years at Louisville. Most of those guys were three stars or worse. Recruiting ability may be overrated for a head coach, but the ability to evaluate is just as important as Xs and Os.

He already knows the area and does not need to start fresh in terms of relationships. He built elite defenses at South Carolina, Florida and Louisville, so I believe he can do the same here with our talented roster. He would inherit a Bridgewater-type quarterback in Kaaya. The Iowa State loss is concerning, but Butch had plenty of bad losses here (including a meltdown against East Carolina in Year 5 with a loaded roster).

He is my third choice behind Butch and Herman.

Yep!

 

[sniffin94]

anyone saying Dorsey coming here as qb coach is crazy. No way he makes a lat move. Next step for him is an OC job.

 

[Comma7201]

I think Herman takes a bigger job than VT

 

[CentralRockets2000]

Charlie, Charlie, Charlie!

 

[Consigliere]

Best thing about this post = money not an issue.

Worst= Charlie Strong

Those who think Strong is a bad option but Herman and Fuentes are great options, i cant take seriously.

Those who think Chip Kelly wouldn't have more success at UT then Strong I can't take seriously.

Chip Kelly won how many national championships at Oregon?? Unlike Herman at Houston, Strong wasn't gift wrapped a loaded team in a weak conference.

If Chip Kelly was at Texas you'd be talking about how Chip he needs more time to build his team up.

So in an attempt to make an argument against Kelly, you say he never won a NC, but neither did Strong as HC.

I am not sure you're aware but Kelly went 46-7 (33-3) as college coach. His worst season (his first) he went 10-3 (8-1), won the conference and lost in the Rose Bowl. You do know that Kelly averaged 11.5 wins per season and only played in BCS bowls. You do know that in his second season he made the NC Game.

Nobody would be saying the bold because he is one of the best college coaches in the game and he would have Texas in a much better position today. You would be the only one who think Strong > Kelly.