Coaching search update

Conservative defensive coaches are the worst hires in today's game.

What would you consider Nick Saban and Mark D'Antonio?

And while we're at it, how "modern" is Jim Harbaugh's offensive philosophy?

Saban and D'Antonio have been at their school for almost 10 years. D'Antonio has opened up his offense a lot over the years as well.

Harbaugh is an offensive genius so not sure why that is being talked about. There isn't another guy like him out there.


Defensive coaches who are conservative offensively (Muschamp and Strong) are not good hires at Miami.

I think Harbaugh is a coaching genius period. I was hoping the Colts could find a way to hire him if they fire Pagano.

Harbaugh would have had banners flying here after his first two seasons at Stanford 9-15.

Another ***ing potato.

Google Walt Harris and see how well he did. Then google Buddy Teevens.

The program was a dumpster fire. Jim instantly came in and started having success. He beat the #3 USC team on the ***ing road.

The previous year, Stanford went 1-11 (1-8). They were poo. He exceeded expectations right off the back. Nobody intelligent was complaining.
 
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If you dont want Strong as HC bc you want a proven elite HC like Butch, Patterson, Briles, or Dantonio is perfectly rational... but to not want Strong but want Herman or Fuentes just means you're not thinking clearly.

The argument about what are you doing now is the dumbest **** I've ever heard of. I guess Fuentes didn't know what he was doing, just a horrible coach that shoudve been fired, his 1st and 2nd year at Memphis, when he went 4-8, and 3-9. But this year he all of a sudden ate his spinach and magically figured out how to turn the program around over night??

Tom Herman who is the least qualified no one has seen what his teams look like with his OWN players unlike with Butch, Strong, and even Fuentes.

Memphis 3-21 the 2 year prior to Fuente arrival.

Texas was 17-9 the 2 years prior to Strong's arrival. Those 17 wins were looked as a failure. Strong is 9-12

You're arguing with a retarded irrational porster. He is incapable of understanding why people want Herman and Fuente. He is also fully supporting Strong when the evidence against Strong is overwhelming and CURRENT.

Strong = Failure at the Power 5 Level

lol Has Herman or Fuentes won at the Power 5 level? Either way you slice it, you have made it clear that Strong being black is the only reason you don't like him as a HC candidate bc your points don't make sense, it has to be about race with you smh.

Look at this guy bringing race into it AGAIN. Because Strong's chitty tenure at Texas isn't enough.

Please show me my racist posts, please put me in my place.

You're a ***ing stubborn potato, that is why you don't get it.
 
Consiglere says Stanford was a dumpster fire when Harbaugh took over but Texas wasnt when Strong took over even though Texas had a losing record in conference 4 years in a row?? Lol and got the nerve to call someone else a ******* potato
 
Consiglere says Stanford was a dumpster fire when Harbaugh took over but Texas wasnt when Strong took over even though Texas had a losing record in conference 4 years in a row?? Lol and got the nerve to call someone else a ****ing potato

Bull chit!

Mack Brown went 9-4 (5-4) in 2012. He went 8-5 (7-2) in 2013. Neither of those are losing records and they immediately preceded Strong's tenure. You want to know what else Mack did during those years? He beat Iowa State both times.
 
Consiglere says Stanford was a dumpster fire when Harbaugh took over but Texas wasnt when Strong took over even though Texas had a losing record in conference 4 years in a row?? Lol and got the nerve to call someone else a ****ing potato

2012 Texas Longhorns Football Schedule | UT

I'm gonna drop this here ... Texas hasn't had a losing season in the Big 12 since 2010 & 2011. And the year before Strong got there, they were 7-2 in the conference ...
 
Consiglere says Stanford was a dumpster fire when Harbaugh took over but Texas wasnt when Strong took over even though Texas had a losing record in conference 4 years in a row?? Lol and got the nerve to call someone else a ****ing potato

2012 Texas Longhorns Football Schedule | UT

I'm gonna drop this here ... Texas hasn't had a losing season in the Big 12 since 2010 & 2011. And the year before Strong got there, they were 7-2 in the conference ...

He is a potato. He is the most stubborn illogical person in the Canes fan base. That is a tremendous achievement. They also had a winning record in 2013 in conference.
 
I'm just glad people are actually discussing Butch and fielding legit concerns rather than the mindless Butch is the greatest BS. He would be a good to very good hire, but we shouldn't make that move until we've explored other and better options
 
Consiglere says Stanford was a dumpster fire when Harbaugh took over but Texas wasnt when Strong took over even though Texas had a losing record in conference 4 years in a row?? Lol and got the nerve to call someone else a ****ing potato

Bull chit!

Mack Brown went 9-4 (5-4) in 2012. He went 8-5 (7-2) in 2013. Neither of those are losing records and they immediately preceded Strong's tenure. You want to know what else Mack did during those years? He beat Iowa State both times.

Yeah going 8-5 with the same roster for 3-4 years yeah that's a program that was headed in the right direction -_-
 
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If you dont want Strong as HC bc you want a proven elite HC like Butch, Patterson, Briles, or Dantonio is perfectly rational... but to not want Strong but want Herman or Fuentes just means you're not thinking clearly.

The argument about what are you doing now is the dumbest **** I've ever heard of. I guess Fuentes didn't know what he was doing, just a horrible coach that shoudve been fired, his 1st and 2nd year at Memphis, when he went 4-8, and 3-9. But this year he all of a sudden ate his spinach and magically figured out how to turn the program around over night??

Tom Herman who is the least qualified no one has seen what his teams look like with his OWN players unlike with Butch, Strong, and even Fuentes.

Memphis 3-21 the 2 year prior to Fuente arrival.

Texas was 17-9 the 2 years prior to Strong's arrival. Those 17 wins were looked as a failure. Strong is 9-12

You say that like program expectations were the only reason that record wasn't good enough? The team was expected to be good enough to compete for the BIG 12 championship and compete nationally as well. Those Mack Brown led teams were suppose to have been fully developed and ready to win with highly rated veteran recruits.

2009 was the last time Texas had a double digit winnng season (13-1). 2010 they went 5-7, 2011 record 8-5, 2012 record 9-4, and 2013 regressed to 8-5 again and Mack Brown was fired... each of those years after 2009, Texas had a losing record in conference.

You all keep bringing up that stat as if Texas was a good team when Strong took over?? Mack had 4 years to get it right and completely sunk the program. But somehow it's fair to hate on Strong bc he can't magically turn around Texas in a year and a half?

Exactly... When Mack Brown was fired. He was fired because he was FN up that program.

Also look what other schools in Texas have done over the past few years.

Texas has not has not finished with class ranked higher in recruiting than Miami except once since 2012.

The Texas studs are gong elsewhere. Thats a fact!

People on this site bash coaches because they are biased towards another coach. Its the blueprint of a simple mind. They literally think Butch is Jesus. Most of them don't even know squat about Butch and cant remember one game he coached in.

Strong would be a one of the best options we have at the moment. To say he is a horrible coach just means you don't know what the F your talking about. This guy has 2 NC under his belt while coaching his kids at Florida and did things at UL that no one thought possible.

There is not another name that's been mentioned on this board that would lock down recruiting like he would.

Butch doesnt have the same contacts he had 17 years or even 5 years ago. He moved his focus to the UNC area.

Strong is a name that every single high school coach down here respects and is a black coach who is respected in just about every black household down here.

He is one of the main reason recruiting shifted to Florida down here over the past 5-10 years.

We simply do not get the best SFL recruits anymore and it has to stop. We might get a kid who is like Duke but those are far and few between and not enough to build your program off of.

We will never be Miami again without the Miami studs we want and need to fill holes. When we miss out on a need then that's not acceptable and this team has done that for the last 10 years. Yes, we can get enough talent to be a top 20 class but do we get the DTs we need when it counts? No. Do we get the RBs we need? No. Linebackers? No. Lineman? No. Miami has lost its depth and has holes everywhere and thats because we have lost our ability to recruit like beasts in SFL. We are no longer their number one option. It's our only real difference making attribute and people are blind to it because we get kids in the league or because have highly ranked classes. The real truth is that people on this board that lessen that fact don't know Miami football and dont know what the F their talking about.

Texas class rankings
2009 # 5
2010 # 3
2011 # 3
2012 # 2
2013 # 24
2014 # 20
2015 # 12
 
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Consiglere says Stanford was a dumpster fire when Harbaugh took over but Texas wasnt when Strong took over even though Texas had a losing record in conference 4 years in a row?? Lol and got the nerve to call someone else a ****ing potato

Bull chit!

Mack Brown went 9-4 (5-4) in 2012. He went 8-5 (7-2) in 2013. Neither of those are losing records and they immediately preceded Strong's tenure. You want to know what else Mack did during those years? He beat Iowa State both times.

Yeah going 8-5 with the same roster for 3-4 years yeah that's a program that was headed in the right direction -_-

I love how you constantly pivot the argument, will you at least admit you made the above stats up.

I also love how you implied I was a racist. That was brilliant stuff.

Serious question. How hard was it to watch your boyfriend lose to Iowa State? It must be hard to see a loved one get butt raped.
 
This is one of those rare times I find myself completely disagreeing with DMoney. I want a great coach and while Strong is good, he is not great.
A great coach doesn't have to find a "fit" for his specific needs to produce great results. What "Texas is not a fit for him" mean? What does this have to do with being blown out by inferior teams?
How long it took Urban to compete for a title at Ohio State or turn around a completely different program going from Utah to Florida. Different personnel and not his recruits?
Strong should have adapted to the new environment, changed his scheme to fit the players they have, manage games much better and not be shut out and lose the way they lost to a 3-5 team. He just doesn't seem to be a cerebral adaptive and well rounded HC.

This.

Can't believe we are even discussing Strong and using the same excuses that we brought up to defend Golden's first two years.
 
I'm just glad people are actually discussing Butch and fielding legit concerns rather than the mindless Butch is the greatest BS. He would be a good to very good hire, but we shouldn't make that move until we've explored other and better options

I think a couple guys got on that "Butch is the only option" soapbox and just spammed the **** out of the board. Now that the search is a reality more guys are getting involved in the discussion and analyzing the positives and negatives of all candidates including Davis.
 
If you dont want Strong as HC bc you want a proven elite HC like Butch, Patterson, Briles, or Dantonio is perfectly rational... but to not want Strong but want Herman or Fuentes just means you're not thinking clearly.

The argument about what are you doing now is the dumbest **** I've ever heard of. I guess Fuentes didn't know what he was doing, just a horrible coach that shoudve been fired, his 1st and 2nd year at Memphis, when he went 4-8, and 3-9. But this year he all of a sudden ate his spinach and magically figured out how to turn the program around over night??

Tom Herman who is the least qualified no one has seen what his teams look like with his OWN players unlike with Butch, Strong, and even Fuentes.

Memphis 3-21 the 2 year prior to Fuente arrival.

Texas was 17-9 the 2 years prior to Strong's arrival. Those 17 wins were looked as a failure. Strong is 9-12

You say that like program expectations were the only reason that record wasn't good enough? The team was expected to be good enough to compete for the BIG 12 championship and compete nationally as well. Those Mack Brown led teams were suppose to have been fully developed and ready to win with highly rated veteran recruits.

2009 was the last time Texas had a double digit winnng season (13-1). 2010 they went 5-7, 2011 record 8-5, 2012 record 9-4, and 2013 regressed to 8-5 again and Mack Brown was fired... each of those years after 2009, Texas had a losing record in conference.

You all keep bringing up that stat as if Texas was a good team when Strong took over?? Mack had 4 years to get it right and completely sunk the program. But somehow it's fair to hate on Strong bc he can't magically turn around Texas in a year and a half?

Exactly... When Mack Brown was fired. He was fired because he was FN up that program.

Also look what other schools in Texas have done over the past few years.

Texas has not has not finished with class ranked higher in recruiting than Miami since 2012.

The Texas studs are gong elsewhere. Thats a fact!

People on this site bash coaches because they are biased towards another coach. Its the blueprint of a simple mind. They literally think Butch is Jesus. Most of them don't even know squat about Butch and cant remember one game he coached in.

Strong would be a one of the best options we have at the moment. To say he is a horrible coach just means you don't know what the F your talking about. This guy has 2 NC under his belt while coaching his kids at Florida and did things at UL that no one thought possible.

There is not another name that's been mentioned on this board that would lock down recruiting like he would.

Butch doesnt have the same contacts he had 17 years or even 5 years ago. He moved his focus to the UNC area.

Strong is a name that every single high school coach down here respects and is a black coach who is respected in just about every black household down here.

He is one of the main reason recruiting shifted to Florida down here over the past 5-10 years.

We simply do not get the best SFL recruits anymore and it has to stop. We might get a kid who is like Duke but those are far and few between and not enough to build your program off of.

We will never be Miami again without the Miami studs we want and need to fill holes. When we miss out on a need then that's not acceptable and this team has done that for the last 10 years. Yes, we can get enough talent to be a top 20 class but do we get the DTs we need when it counts? No. Do we get the RBs we need? No. Linebackers? No. Lineman? No. Miami has lost its depth and has holes everywhere and thats because we have lost our ability to recruit like beasts in SFL. We are no longer their number one option. It's our only real difference making attribute and people are blind to it because we get kids in the league or because have highly ranked classes. The real truth is that people on this board that lessen that fact dont know Miami football and dont know what the F their talking about.

While I understand this argument and agree that he would likely lock down South Florida in terms of recruiting, I'm highly concerned about what's happening with his offense. Ultimately, the offensive philosophy and coaches are up to the head coach. I have complete confidence that Charlie Strong would build a monster defense down here but can he hire the right offensive coordinator and recruit the right offensive talent? I don't think any of us know the answer to that question.
 
Consiglere says Stanford was a dumpster fire when Harbaugh took over but Texas wasnt when Strong took over even though Texas had a losing record in conference 4 years in a row?? Lol and got the nerve to call someone else a ****ing potato

Bull chit!

Mack Brown went 9-4 (5-4) in 2012. He went 8-5 (7-2) in 2013. Neither of those are losing records and they immediately preceded Strong's tenure. You want to know what else Mack did during those years? He beat Iowa State both times.

Yeah going 8-5 with the same roster for 3-4 years yeah that's a program that was headed in the right direction -_-

We all know about the suspensions in Year 4, but it's hilarious that someone who's pro-Butch and anti-Herman worded it that way because...

Butch's last three years at UNC: 8-5, 8-5, 8-5
 
Consiglere says Stanford was a dumpster fire when Harbaugh took over but Texas wasnt when Strong took over even though Texas had a losing record in conference 4 years in a row?? Lol and got the nerve to call someone else a ****ing potato

Bull chit!

Mack Brown went 9-4 (5-4) in 2012. He went 8-5 (7-2) in 2013. Neither of those are losing records and they immediately preceded Strong's tenure. You want to know what else Mack did during those years? He beat Iowa State both times.

Yeah going 8-5 with the same roster for 3-4 years yeah that's a program that was headed in the right direction -_-

I love how you constantly pivot the argument, will you at least admit you made the above stats up.

I also love how you implied I was a racist. That was brilliant stuff.

Serious question. How hard was it to watch your boyfriend lose to Iowa State? It must be hard to see a loved one get butt raped.

I count 5-4 as a losing record, so I was still almost right...regardless, Texas sucked Strong is better than Herman who you have this groupie obsession iver when he has done nothing to prove he is worth an interview for the HC job.
 
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Consiglere says Stanford was a dumpster fire when Harbaugh took over but Texas wasnt when Strong took over even though Texas had a losing record in conference 4 years in a row?? Lol and got the nerve to call someone else a ****ing potato

Bull chit!

Mack Brown went 9-4 (5-4) in 2012. He went 8-5 (7-2) in 2013. Neither of those are losing records and they immediately preceded Strong's tenure. You want to know what else Mack did during those years? He beat Iowa State both times.

Yeah going 8-5 with the same roster for 3-4 years yeah that's a program that was headed in the right direction -_-

I love how you constantly pivot the argument, will you at least admit you made the above stats up.

I also love how you implied I was a racist. That was brilliant stuff.

Serious question. How hard was it to watch your boyfriend lose to Iowa State? It must be hard to see a loved one get butt raped.

I count 5-4 as a losing record, so I was still almost right...regardless, Texas sucked Strong is better than Herman who you have this groupie obsession iver when he has done nothing to prove he is worth an interview for the HC job.

Does anyone see this gem?
 
Can we all agree, as I stated back on page 18, that the word conservative to describe Butch's offenses doesn't matter when he has studs in it?

Points Per Game
1995: 26.7
1996: 30.7
1997: 28.6
1998: 37.3
1999: 33.2
2000: 42.2
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2001: 42.7
2002: 40.5
2003: 27.8

I think we can agree that if we can stockpile Wayne, Moss, James, Portis, Dorsey, shockey, mckinnie, Johnson, Gore, et al he will put up numbers offensively. I'm not sure UM fans want to wait 4 years hoping he can pull off that personnel miracle again.

We saw him most recently at UNC field some dreadful offenses and struggle to make a peep in the feeble Coastal over a 4 year stretch.

That's fair, and I agree it's a concern, but I'm hoping he has either learned to adapt to the changing game (and the game has changed since he left UNC, more than it changed from when he was at UM to when he was at UNC), or he stockpiles enough talent to where he can average 40 points per game regardless. Again, I'm not saying Butch is Saban, or the best hire in the history of hires.
 
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I count 5-4 as a losing record, so I was still almost right...regardless, Texas sucked Strong is better than Herman who you have this groupie obsession iver when he has done nothing to prove he is worth an interview for the HC job.

Must be the new math.
 
Guys please look up the term Potato. Its a stupid term and would work for some old dude with his pants down around his ankles wearing a flat bill. On this site the only way it would make sense is if someone thought a 21 yo knew chit about Miami football. Which they dont. The last title they experienced was when they were 5. And if your an old F like many of you are and your using that term then you a FN potato for using some ghay ash internet term.
 
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