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DMoney said:
We’ll see. NFL is hard to predict with situation and a bunch of other factors.

The college argument is over. He’s the projected Heisman and #1 pick for a Big 10 champion.

All the people who trashed him should collect their Ls before moving on to NFL hating.
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In every game against a team with a pulse he was 65% for ~220 yards 1/1 that's in college. Even in the NFL that stat line is considered not bad at best. He honestly has no business winning the Heisman and I forsee a fall in the draft once the scouts look under the hood on him. Nice kid and a gamer has a bit of a clutch gene. Career back up in the NFL if he is lucky more than likely cup of coffee in the league and quick exit to his next career.
 
DMoney said:
Something to keep in mind when you watch Saturday's Heisman ceremony:

CJ Bailey (two years at NC State)

68%, 5,297 yards, 7.9 YPA, 40 TDS, 19 INTs, 494 rushing yards, 10 TDs

Fernando Mendoza (two years at Cal)

66%, 4,712 yards, 7.5 YPA, 30 TDs, 16 INTs, 197 rushing yards, 4 TDs

When I first brought up Mendoza as a Miami option last year, most of the responses were, "We can do better," "We're only talking about him because he's from South Florida," or worse. Those posts aged like the girl from Top Gun.
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still feel the same way. No way I look at Bailey and think he's as good or better than Mendoza. I've watched them both. I trust my eyes.
 
PIPO said:
IMO, I don’t think we can lose more than 1 game next year and I don’t believe we can win with Sellers or Raiola at ND.

The ACC is a ******* abortion of a conference and losing 1 conference game next year I don’t believe is an option and the best way to keep teams in games is with indecisive QBs and turnover prone QBs.

That Clemson game next year is a must win. I know Sellers has played Clemson before but I don’t trust that guy to not lose those 2 games.
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I'd be depressed if either Sellers or Raiola came in as QB. It would be going backwards..,
 
Hoyacane1620 said:
I'd be depressed if either Sellers or Raiola came in as QB. It would be going backwards..,
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At the very least it’d be a signal we are going for a home run. Whatever negatives we can point to with both, and there are major negatives, those 2 have OBVIOUS high upside/ceiling.
When weighing price and floor I’d probably go a different direction as well, but I’m not gunna hate it if we got either. It’s just sending a clear signal that we are going all out. It’s up to the coaches to surround those guys with the talent and gameplan to bring out their upside.

I think the best thing I’d say is we are clearly going into this with who Dawson wants same as we did with Beck over other potential guys. So if he is confident in a home run swing like those two…. I say let’s ride.
 
Bailey struggles against tight coverage and any defense that creates pressure in his face. He also does not anticipate or throw the ball down the field. If you think Beck is a “Check Down Charlie,” consider that his two years at Georgia he had a Y/A of 8.6 and a 7.8 Y/A in 2024… Bailey is basically the same as 2024 Beck (7.9 Y/A) but with a higher interception %… just know what you’re signing up for.
 
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brock said:
Is there any chance we don’t take a qb and have Emory, nickel and Coleman battle it out? If we take a transfer I’d lean torwards getting a guy who has multiple years of eligibility this go around
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If anything happens where Emory comes out even number 2 in a competition we are SCREWED at QB
 
bacane said:
Beck can actually read defenses, played a lot of football & been around successful players & team. Raiola is none of those & will find a way to get you beat.
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Carson Beck had 10 career completions, a 43% completion percentage, 2 career touchdowns and 2 career interceptions, at the end of his 2nd college season.

Raoila was thrown into the fire day 1 on a ****** Nebraska team.

If we are going to compare the two, lets be fair.

I dont think its up for debate that Raoila has a lot more natural talent than Beck. Beck did a solid job here, but he wasnt asked to do very much. A lot of QBs can do what Beck did for us this year.
 
JustAFanHTX said:
Raiola is better than Beck.
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How would you stack Raiola, Sorsby, Leavitt, Mestemaker, Sellers, and Bailey? (Obviously accounting for our offense too not JUST in general)

I think I’d go Sorsby and Mestemaker at top cause they are safest with high ceiling (Sorsby) and have 2 years which would be huge (Mestemaker).

After those two I’d go Raiola I think simply for the high potential and fact he’s a pure thrower (so def a take above Sellers for me). Then probably Leavitt…

I mean there’s also all the guys I wouldn’t expect to enter…I’d also 100% take Mensah over pretty much all of them. **** I’d probably take Nico over Bailey too tbh. I think he has higher upside. Josh Hoover I don’t expect him to enter. I’d prob Demond Williams over Sellers… I think honestly Katin Houser would be a cheaper and better add than Bailey too tbh.. and I’d take Austin Simmons as QB2 as well
 
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Calinative said:
How would you stack Raiola, Sorsby, Leavitt, Mestemaker, Sellers, and Bailey?

I think I’d go Sorsby and Mestemaker at top cause they are safest with high ceiling (Sorsby) and have 2 years which would be huge (Mestemaker).

After those two I’d go Raiola I think simply for the high potential and fact he’s a pure thrower (so def a take above Sellers for me). Then probably Leavitt…

I mean there’s also all the guys I wouldn’t expect to enter…I’d also 100% take Mensah over pretty much all of them. **** I’d probably take Nico over Bailey too tbh. I think he has higher upside. Josh Hoover I don’t expect him to enter. I’d prob Demond Williams over Sellers… I think honestly Katin Houser would be a cheaper and better add than Bailey too tbh.. and I’d take Austin Simmons as QB2 as well
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Mestemaker and raiola would be tier 1 for MIAMI imo. After that I would group Bailey, sorsby, leavitt (I think he’s a lemon at this point) if at any point you make it past this group I would say you’re doing yourself a disservice by not seeing what you have in house
 
JustAFanHTX said:
Mestemaker and raiola would be tier 1 for MIAMI imo. After that I would group Bailey, sorsby, leavitt (I think he’s a lemon at this point) if at any point you make it past this group I would say you’re doing yourself a disservice by not seeing what you have in house
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Since you know Texas so well you think Mestemaker is just a likely lock to OKst? I was pretty surprised Morris picked OKst. Thought he would have been able to get a better job. But I don’t think they’d be able to match NIL with top programs, so it’d all be about him specifically wanting to stick with Morris
 
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Calinative said:
Since you know Texas so well you think Mestemaker is just a likely lock to OKst? I was pretty surprised Morris picked OKst. Thought he would have been able to get a better job. But I don’t think they’d be able to match NIL with top programs, so it’d all be about him specifically wanting to stick with Morris
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It’s in NO way a lock. lol this kids story is so unique. Austin kids who can’t go to UT will go anywhere and his market is robust.
 
JustAFanHTX said:
It’s in NO way a lock. lol this kids story is so unique. Austin kids who can’t go to UT will go anywhere and his market is robust.
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Maybe Weigman to OKSt then. But Eigman did just have an interview where he said his plan was to return which I found surprising.

I’d love to land Mestemaker. He’d probably have some hiccups next yr. But man it’d be nice to get a 2yr guy. I feel like we should be the clear top option for him given we can already show the Cam path. I feel like if Dante Moore declares that Oregon would be all over Sorsby. Just seems like the exact type of fit they’d like there. But maybe outside shot they’d go with like Nico or Leavitt I guess… I do hope LSU is 100% going for Leavitt though. To me that’d be good news
 
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