Can we be civil?

[SCarolina Ibis]

This is y in my OP, I said fans who are vested in hope will make excuses, despite what they see. It’s the O&G glasses.

-15-0 was peddled around here, OP, & anyone who said otherwise was given a scarlet letter. So let’s not change the narrative after the debacle.

-We did not play well that game; as a matter of fact, the score was much less indicative of how bad we played that game.

-For a person like myself, someone who tries to balance fandom w/ reality, I didn’t expect us to win; but remember, this was supposed to be a “run it back” type of season. The reason why the polls, prognosticators, media were bullish on us, was b/c we were bringing back 91% production from a team that went 8-3. We were “supposed” to be a mature, well seasoned team, and thus, competitive against a young, mostly inexperienced Bama team (See Florida). We looked like the inexperienced team, which is troubling yr 6 in the same system, and team full of Juniors, Seniors, and Super Seniors.

-Pls don’t bring up the App St v PSU game from last season as a “gage.” I brought out in another thread in response to this rhetoric, the commonality of every P5 school that went toe to toe w/ App St was they ALL had no less than 4 losses on the season, meaning they weren’t that good to begin w/. Ding, Ding, Ding.

-The heat was supposed to be our ally (that’s what all the pundits on here said). Yet, we were the ones that melted in the 4th like a popsicles & we looked like suckers.

What u fail to realize, @fraggle, is that this venom that’s being spewed on this board is not just b/c we’re 1-2 or that we’re 1-4 in our last 5 games, it’s how we are playing. It’s the constant mistakes, lack of discipline, lack of toughness, play calling, lethargic & apathetic attitude when getting punched in the mouth, the classless display of trinkets when getting our heads beat in, the lack of pride of donning the Orange & Green, etc. etc. etc.

We have seen EPIC failures in a short period of time w/ Diaz, & yet u wanna live in la-la land about how teams learn from out of conference games & the season starts next week during conference play?? I’m sorry, that is the most hog chit of bull chit theories I’ve heard.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it’s not a cow. In our last four P5 games, we have been out scored 181 - 90.

This is perfectly said. It doesn't leave any room for argument. But it won't matter. Although.. I do have "injuries" left on my excuses for manny bingo card.

I'd love to say I get where they're coming from. But I just can't because I don't. At all. Lets see if they show the same loyalty to the next HC.

 

[orange&green84]

The Hurricanes are my team and have been for over 60 years. What did anyone expect going into the year? The loss to Alabama was expected and we played better then the score. I think that game damaged the team psychologically. We then BEAT APP St a team that last year Penn State had to go to overtime to win 45-38 so they were not chopped liver and after the Bama loss was to be expected. Michigan St was a disaster but not until the 4th quarter where the wheels fell off but Mich St is a drastically improved team from last year, they have the leading rusher in the nation. Sure I am disappointed but teams learn from non-conference competition and we have time to fix what's broke before we start and we start with a home ACC game. Our main competition started the ACC with a loss. If we bomb out in the ACC then we move on from there via drastic changes but UNTIL then lets support our team. If we win the Coastal Clemson is vulnerable this year so we could have a dramatic reversal IF our team gets its confidence back. Sure it will take some doing but anything is possible. The rips on Diaz is his inexperience so do we have him gain experience here and leave or hope that he is learning and can be the coach so many of us EXPECTED. I am not for throwing the baby out with the wash water. Our season is the ACC now, let it play out and then make the necessary changes. I for one want this team to succeed, it is a great challenge but we are capable. I will never root for losses as some here are. I am excited to see Garcia or TVD step up and take charge of this team, our success should be in their hands and they seem capable. GO CANES!

I stopped here. We did not play that game great at all. No Miami fan expected to win the game, at best, we wanted to see if we could be competitive (ie lose by 14-17 points).

 

[ScubaCane]

This is y in my OP, I said fans who are vested in hope will make excuses, despite what they see. It’s the O&G glasses.

-15-0 was peddled around here, OP, & anyone who said otherwise was given a scarlet letter. So let’s not change the narrative after the debacle.

-We did not play well that game; as a matter of fact, the score was much less indicative of how bad we played that game.

-For a person like myself, someone who tries to balance fandom w/ reality, I didn’t expect us to win; but remember, this was supposed to be a “run it back” type of season. The reason why the polls, prognosticators, media were bullish on us, was b/c we were bringing back 91% production from a team that went 8-3. We were “supposed” to be a mature, well seasoned team, and thus, competitive against a young, mostly inexperienced Bama team (See Florida). We looked like the inexperienced team, which is troubling yr 6 in the same system, and team full of Juniors, Seniors, and Super Seniors.

-Pls don’t bring up the App St v PSU game from last season as a “gage.” I brought out in another thread in response to this rhetoric, the commonality of every P5 school that went toe to toe w/ App St was they ALL had no less than 4 losses on the season, meaning they weren’t that good to begin w/. Ding, Ding, Ding.

-The heat was supposed to be our ally (that’s what all the pundits on here said). Yet, we were the ones that melted in the 4th like a popsicles & we looked like suckers.

What u fail to realize, @fraggle, is that this venom that’s being spewed on this board is not just b/c we’re 1-2 or that we’re 1-4 in our last 5 games, it’s how we are playing. It’s the constant mistakes, lack of discipline, lack of toughness, play calling, lethargic & apathetic attitude when getting punched in the mouth, the classless display of trinkets when getting our heads beat in, the lack of pride of donning the Orange & Green, etc. etc. etc.

We have seen EPIC failures in a short period of time w/ Diaz, & yet u wanna live in la-la land about how teams learn from out of conference games & the season starts next week during conference play?? I’m sorry, that is the most hog chit of bull chit theories I’ve heard.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it’s not a cow. In our last four P5 games, we have been out scored 181 - 90.

 

[canedoit]

The Hurricanes are my team and have been for over 60 years. What did anyone expect going into the year? The loss to Alabama was expected and we played better then the score. I think that game damaged the team psychologically. We then BEAT APP St a team that last year Penn State had to go to overtime to win 45-38 so they were not chopped liver and after the Bama loss was to be expected. Michigan St was a disaster but not until the 4th quarter where the wheels fell off but Mich St is a drastically improved team from last year, they have the leading rusher in the nation. Sure I am disappointed but teams learn from non-conference competition and we have time to fix what's broke before we start and we start with a home ACC game. Our main competition started the ACC with a loss. If we bomb out in the ACC then we move on from there via drastic changes but UNTIL then lets support our team. If we win the Coastal Clemson is vulnerable this year so we could have a dramatic reversal IF our team gets its confidence back. Sure it will take some doing but anything is possible. The rips on Diaz is his inexperience so do we have him gain experience here and leave or hope that he is learning and can be the coach so many of us EXPECTED. I am not for throwing the baby out with the wash water. Our season is the ACC now, let it play out and then make the necessary changes. I for one want this team to succeed, it is a great challenge but we are capable. I will never root for losses as some here are. I am excited to see Garcia or TVD step up and take charge of this team, our success should be in their hands and they seem capable. GO CANES!

Good stuffs, Fraggle. I'm quite interested to see how the team evolves during the season. This weeks contest should be a good opportunity for the program to polish some things prior to conference play. The door's still open for the team to find itself in the ACCCG

Irrespective of Diaz's inexperience, the University is quite content with the state of the football program and overall athletics in general. Shared revenue and bowl eligibility are the targets. So, I'm with you...compete, watch the growth and maturation of the young men, take in the game day experiences and look forward to enjoying a bowl game during the holiday season.

 

[Da Jumbo Mutombo]

fraggle is manny diaz lol

Worse insult in the thread and no warning.

Maude favoritism?

 

[SpikeUM]

Porsters, the main point is that Fraggle is entitled to his opinion. You are welcome to disagree with that opinion, that is your right, but you are not entitled to insult him or anyone else. A number of you seem to be overlooking that, and quite frankly, if anything, I thinks the Mods have been too lenient in bans.

 

[JG13]

Is Fraggle older than Joer from CaneSpurt? Joer was the guy who championed a German QB prospect back in 2008

 

[cway313]

This website literally just had a middle finger emoji a couple of days ago. Literally a middle finger reaction! Now I got a citation for a gif?

Speaking of that @Andrew I remember asking for 100 and eyes emojis months ago and you said soon. Before or after Manny is fired?

 

[L A M P]

Good stuffs, Fraggle. I'm quite interested to see how the team evolves during the season. This weeks contest should be a good opportunity for the program to polish some things prior to conference play. The door's still open for the team to find itself in the ACCCG

Irrespective of Diaz's inexperience, the University is quite content with the state of the football program and overall athletics in general. Shared revenue and bowl eligibility are the targets. So, I'm with you...compete, watch the growth and maturation of the young men, take in the game day experiences and look forward to enjoying a bowl game during the holiday season.

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

This really is the only saving grace (of sorts) for the Canes this season. The ACC is comprised largely of subpar teams. Given that, there should be no excuse for not winning the Coastal division. Here's hoping.

Shortsighted, at best. Saving grace is probably the worst choice of words I can think of given the situation. If that scenario plays out Manny likely gets an extension from our clueless, lazy, apathetic, and incompetent administration. That just stretches out the purgatory and then when we play in the next "big game" and get destroyed, we'll all be right back here wondering what the state of the program is and what went wrong.

It's in the best interest of this program, both short and long term, for a complete implosion to ensue. The only way these chumps will act is if they are forced to act. Winning a meaningless ACC Coastal pizza trophy doesn't outweigh the consequence of what that would bring along with it.

Go Coastal Conn and whoever else is left on our schedule. I'll be openly rooting for Virgnia and UNC to *** stomp us in the HOPE that Blake gets fired and we can FINALLY hit the reset button the CORRECT way. That athletic department needs to be completely cleansed before we can take any steps forward.

 

[Pentagon Cane]

We're mathematically still alive in the Coastal. Fraggle is 100% correct about that. I think you and I both know that dream will likely die next Thursday when UVA comes to town.

Regardless, we will treat the oldest member of this website with some dignity and respect. No different that you'd treat your own grandfather for making a heartfelt argument about something you know he's wrong about.

Except I politely leave the room and make a ham and swiss on rye, slice a dill, scoop some slaw and pops would still not miss a beat. After hearing the same story for a hundredth time it was easy squeezy to do so. I could pick it up without missing a beat from the my end, too. Love ya pops.

 

[SFbayCane]

Shortsighted, at best. Saving grace is probably the worst choice of words I can think of given the situation. If that scenario plays out Manny likely gets an extension from our clueless, lazy, apathetic, and incompetent administration. That just stretches out the purgatory and then when we play in the next "big game" and get destroyed, we'll all be right back here wondering what the state of the program is and what went wrong.

It's in the best interest of this program, both short and long term, for a complete implosion to ensue. The only way these chumps will act is if they are forced to act. Winning a meaningless ACC Coastal pizza trophy doesn't outweigh the consequence of what that would bring along with it.

Go Coastal Conn and whoever else is left on our schedule. I'll be openly rooting for Virgnia and UNC to *** stomp us in the HOPE that Blake gets fired and we can FINALLY hit the reset button the CORRECT way. That athletic department needs to be completely cleansed before we can take any steps forward.

Dont worry about it. We both know the Canes aint winning the **** coastal this year. Just let it play out. lol

 

[Mnhurricane]

Pretty simple leave the personal attacks out...

Refute their post with facts

For clarification why can posters celebrate injuries to our players but we can’t rail on fragile?

And no I’m not singling you out or anything just curious

 

[Canes2082]

For clarification why can posters celebrate injuries to our players but we can’t rail on fragile?

And no I’m not singling you out or anything just curious

If i see it i treat it as personal attack and will be handled

 

[NJshoreCane]

This really is the only saving grace (of sorts) for the Canes this season. The ACC is comprised largely of subpar teams. Given that, there should be no excuse for not winning the Coastal division. Here's hoping.

5-3 takes it this year.
I can't see us being a part of that 4-way tie-breaker though.

 

[swampcougar1]

Been a fan over 70 years myself and have never seen a worse coach than the present one. How can a so called defensive coach have a team that is unsound fundamentally tackling. Defensive players under him have regressed the last 6 years. Our draft picks under him have been been one and done portal players.

 

[Negro-Wan Kanobi]

Porsters, the main point is that Fraggle is entitled to his opinion. You are welcome to disagree with that opinion, that is your right, but you are not entitled to insult him or anyone else. A number of you seem to be overlooking that, and quite frankly, if anything, I thinks the Mods have been too lenient in bans.

Check out that other thread he started. Gramps gotta be a troll.

 

[We'retheBoss]

civil as in respectful, or civil as in the war?

 

[Empirical Cane]

This website literally just had a middle finger emoji a couple of days ago. Literally a middle finger reaction! Now I got a citation for a gif?

Kinda a good point.

 

[SpikeUM]

Check out that other thread he started. Gramps gotta be a troll.

Possibly, but then you put him on IGNORE