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JD08 said:
Usually the people proclaiming science as the ultimate answer treat it same as people did religion. It's not infallible and it's capable of correcting itself unless acted on by outside forces. We know a lot more than we did 6 months ago because of science, but there's still more to learn. We'll be fine as longer as we respond to new information.
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Yep. Published, Peer-Reviewed Articles are their sole Bible - Published and Elevated Scientists are the Priesthood, and woe to anyone who goes against the Approved Dogma - for they shall be found anathema. Heretics.

Never mind when their "scientific" crap is wrong - and the heretics are correct.

Medicine is bought and directed by the wealthy Pharmaceutical Companies - they finance medical journals - through advertising their Patented products - and even pay physicians to push their products.

The medical community is money oriented - focused on practicing medicine - and not on healing - as they should be.
 
CaneFan79 said:
Today's great science is tomorrow's failure...From 1972

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-****el-engine/

Yep, just the header but you can see where this is going. "The demands of emission control and cost reduction are making this rotary power plant increasingly attractive for the U.S. automobile." Science has deliverd us from dirty scourge, the piston engine!

Well it did, until it didn't:

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/engineering-explained-why-the-rotary-engine-had-to-die/

"When you put it all together, emissions killed off the rotary. The combination of inefficient combustion, inherent oil burning, and a sealing challenge result in an engine that’s not competitive by today’s standards on emissions or fuel economy."

But bad science is like Roaches, hard to kill:

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/mazda-confirms-return-of-the-****el-rotary-engine-in-2020

But I guess the science is still not working:

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-sh...x-30-electric-crossover-pictures-specs-range/

Oh, speaking of the 1970s...

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When I got this issue back in 1976, the "What's Happening to our Climate?" story teased on the front cover scared the heck out of my pre-teen self when I read it...A new ICE AGE was coming!
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Funny how the future is here, until it never really arrives.

An Inconvenient Truth: Earth Day was started based on CERTAINTY of global famine and Ice Age by late 70s, early 80s at most, "if we don't act RIGHT NOW!"

Sound familiar?
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In fairness, there were scientists predicting global warming back then as well. Staggering to see these communities and their desperate attempts at revisionist history.

But...but...but...

sound familiar??
 
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JD08 said:
Usually the people proclaiming science as the ultimate answer treat it same as people did religion. It's not infallible and it's capable of correcting itself unless acted on by outside forces. We know a lot more than we did 6 months ago because of science, but there's still more to learn. We'll be fine as longer as we respond to new information.
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One of the All Time Trolls...evah!!! 👇👇

phys.org

'Real' fake research hoodwinks US journals

Three US researchers have pulled off a sophisticated hoax by publishing fake research with ridiculous conclusions in sociology journals to expose what they see as ideological bias and a lack of rigorous vetting at these publications.
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www.theatlantic.com

What an Audacious Hoax Reveals About Academia

Three scholars wrote 20 fake papers using fashionable jargon to argue for ridiculous conclusions.
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UMFarArcher said:
Yep. Published, Peer-Reviewed Articles are their sole Bible - Published and Elevated Scientists are the Priesthood, and woe to anyone who goes against the Approved Dogma - for they shall be found anathema. Heretics.

Never mind when their "scientific" crap is wrong - and the heretics are correct.

Medicine is bought and directed by the wealthy Pharmaceutical Companies - they finance medical journals - through advertising their Patented products - and even pay physicians to push their products.

The medical community is money oriented - focused on practicing medicine - and not on healing - as they should be.
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An homage to Troll OG👇👇
www.theguardian.com

The Sokal affair

We've been focusing on the negative for too long. It's time I introduced you to my hero: Alan Sokal
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

👆👆Mocking and humiliating the "but...but...but Italy!!!!" crowd since 1996.
 
Purdue fuq'n 👇👇

Purdue University president says not reopening in the fall would be 'unacceptable'

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Purdue University president says not reopening in the fall would be 'unacceptable'

Mitch Daniels, the former Republican governor of Indiana and current president of Purdue University, wrote in a Washington Post op-ed Tuesday morning that failing to reopen the university for students this fall would be "an unacceptable breach of duty."
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Oh how the rats are starting to eat each other now.

We are going to see Canes football in a few months.
 
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Empirical Cane said:
Purdue fuq'n 👇👇

Purdue University president says not reopening in the fall would be 'unacceptable'

www.foxnews.com

Purdue University president says not reopening in the fall would be 'unacceptable'

Mitch Daniels, the former Republican governor of Indiana and current president of Purdue University, wrote in a Washington Post op-ed Tuesday morning that failing to reopen the university for students this fall would be "an unacceptable breach of duty."
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Oh how the rats are starting to eat each other now.

We are going to see Canes football in a few months.
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If the UMichigan President was doing it as a trial Zeppelin, it is the Hindenberg approaching Lakehurst...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/car...0-students-may-have-nowhere-to-go/ar-BB14ycff
 
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To get back on topic here:

If what was one of the hottest spots in the entire United States, New Jersey, is preparing to support professional leagues, I can’t imagine that there wouldn’t be Michigan football in Michigan. I realize it’s college, but if the pros can show a mechanism by which they can play in their league, I don’t see why colleges can’t either.





Governor Phil Murphy (@GovMurphy) Tweeted:
UPDATE: Professional sports teams in NJ may return to training and even competition – if their leagues choose to move in that direction. We have been in constant discussions with teams about necessary protocols to protect the health and safety of players, coaches, and personnel.
 
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The Franchise said:
Fake science. Fake news. Fake everything. We can only trust our supreme leader because everything else is a liberal conspiracy including science.
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Yep. lol. Everything is now such a conspiracy that public confidence in science (not scientific discussion) is eroding even when institutional issues are not contributing to its erosion.

UMFarArcher said:
Yep. Published, Peer-Reviewed Articles are their sole Bible - Published and Elevated Scientists are the Priesthood, and woe to anyone who goes against the Approved Dogma - for they shall be found anathema. Heretics.

Never mind when their "scientific" crap is wrong - and the heretics are correct.

Medicine is bought and directed by the wealthy Pharmaceutical Companies - they finance medical journals - through advertising their Patented products - and even pay physicians to push their products.

The medical community is money oriented - focused on practicing medicine - and not on healing - as they should be.
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This is such a laughable oversimplification of the scientific process in general. Peer review and debate is a constant in most such journals with plenty of debates lasting decades of people's careers. People have egos/pride but that has something to do with their pride in their work given usually how much effort and debate and studies (and substantiation) have been put into it. Should they be 'open' (whatever that means) to alternate viewpoints? Of course. But those alternate viewpoints should be treated with the same rigor and preened to the same degree of work in their proof as well. Guys sitting on message boards or park benches blurting out tweets, making opaque conclusions, and screaming about 'context and 'party lines' to water things down in order to prop themselves up is not scientific rigor.

Sure the pharma industry has an interest group in politics. Anyone with power does. But what is this 'focus on practicing medicine and not on healing' you're talking about? Do you mean more preventive medicine efforts and integrating holistic health (nutrition, etc.) into medicine? If so, then that would be at the intersection of public health and medicine. Not sure what medicine and not healing means.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
To get back on topic here:

If what was one of the hottest spots in the entire United States, New Jersey, is preparing to support professional leagues, I can’t imagine that there wouldn’t be Michigan football in Michigan. I realize it’s college, but if the pros can show a mechanism by which they can play in their league, I don’t see why colleges can’t either.





Governor Phil Murphy (@GovMurphy) Tweeted:
UPDATE: Professional sports teams in NJ may return to training and even competition – if their leagues choose to move in that direction. We have been in constant discussions with teams about necessary protocols to protect the health and safety of players, coaches, and personnel.
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Obviously, pro teams are a different animal than college teams. That being said, each can implement policies directed at each one’s particular situation using the best available info from reliable sources.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
To get back on topic here:

If what was one of the hottest spots in the entire United States, New Jersey, is preparing to support professional leagues, I can’t imagine that there wouldn’t be Michigan football in Michigan. I realize it’s college, but if the pros can show a mechanism by which they can play in their league, I don’t see why colleges can’t either.





Governor Phil Murphy (@GovMurphy) Tweeted:
UPDATE: Professional sports teams in NJ may return to training and even competition – if their leagues choose to move in that direction. We have been in constant discussions with teams about necessary protocols to protect the health and safety of players, coaches, and personnel.
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This is good news in general about New Jersey. But pro sports will be treated entirely differently than college, as college still relies on the fake notion that the players are students and amateurs. With the fake amateur model, they won't allow college teams to play unless the college students are on campus. Otherwise, it would appear too mercenary and "pro."
 
RemainMack said:
Yep. lol. Everything is now such a conspiracy that public confidence in science (not scientific discussion) is eroding even when institutional issues are not contributing to its erosion.



This is such a laughable oversimplification of the scientific process in general. Peer review and debate is a constant in most such journals with plenty of debates lasting decades of people's careers. People have egos/pride but that has something to do with their pride in their work given usually how much effort and debate and studies (and substantiation) have been put into it. Should they be 'open' (whatever that means) to alternate viewpoints? Of course. But those alternate viewpoints should be treated with the same rigor and preened to the same degree of work in their proof as well. Guys sitting on message boards or park benches blurting out tweets, making opaque conclusions, and screaming about 'context and 'party lines' to water things down in order to prop themselves up is not scientific rigor.

Sure the pharma industry has an interest group in politics. Anyone with power does. But what is this 'focus on practicing medicine and not on healing' you're talking about? Do you mean more preventive medicine efforts and integrating holistic health (nutrition, etc.) into medicine? If so, then that would be at the intersection of public health and medicine. Not sure what medicine and not healing means.
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A big part of the problem is the hype that some scientific studies get. Remember when it was clear that butter was delicious death and margarine was the healthy alternative until some discovered trans fats are worse. Same with eggs, shrimp, coconut oil, and almost anything denigrated by the Center for Science in the Public Interest. Fear draws attention.

Then you have wonder drugs that a few years later are the subject of ambulance chaser commercials. Add in the innate distrust of greedy corporations and once again fear takes the lead.

With things like a novel virus, science can only give advice and refine that advice as more information comes in. Balancing caution and risk falls on the decision makers, science is just supporting evidence.
 
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