Blaming the good players

[DMoney]

Losing for a decade sucks.

In the midst of this pain, Miami fans have picked up a dumb habit. When things go wrong, we blame our good players for "not being as good as we hyped them to be." Then, when these same guys get to the NFL, they turn out to be even better than we ever hoped.

Calais Campbell- Low-motor, plays too high, slow, glorified cheerleader.
Greg Olsen- Soft, chokes in big games, average hands.
Travis Benjamin- Soft, can't run routes.
Allen Bailey- JAG, stiff.
Orlando Franklin- Dumb, belongs in the CFL.

Last year, Duke Johnson was the target. Now he's making TD catches on Thursday Night Football. This year, people are choosing to dump on Brad Kaaya.

Hopefully, the new coach turns this around fast. It would be nice to appreciate Kaaya while he's still in a Canes uniform.

 

[252cane]

Kaaya was raw coming out of high school. People that watched him thought a redshirt would help him. I never saw him as a 3 and out dude and he has shown improvement.

 

[skyman]

Forgot Lamar Miller. Dude was first rusher to break 1k in long time, and played hurt a couple times. He was soft shoulders to some.

 

[DMoney]

Forgot Lamar Miller. Dude was first rusher to break 1k in long time, and played hurt a couple times. He was soft shoulders to some.

Good point. People still try to downplay him even as he's developed into one of the most explosive backs in the league.

 

[Ssoto0055]

People want to blame someone, so we blame the best guys for not doing more. There's only so much one guy can do. ****, even in basketball one guy can't do it all. Lebron came down here because he couldn't do it alone.

 

[252cane]

This fanbase are always screaming this guy isn't elite or that guy. He doesn't make plays when it counts. Look at jameis that guy had guys all around him that made plays which made it easier on him to make plays.

This fanbase thinks one guy like duke or kaaya is supposed to just put the entire team on their back and expect them to win. This isn't basketball where you get two great players and now you are championship contenders.

 

[clg003]

Losing for a decade sucks.

In the midst of this pain, Miami fans have picked up a dumb habit. When things go wrong, we blame our good players for "not being as good as we hyped them to be." Then, when these same guys get to the NFL, they turn out to be even better than we ever hoped.

Calais Campbell- Low-motor, plays too high, slow, glorified cheerleader.
Greg Olsen- Soft, chokes in big games, average hands.
Travis Benjamin- Soft, can't run routes.
Allen Bailey- JAG, stiff.
Orlando Franklin- Dumb, belongs in the CFL.

Last year, Duke Johnson was the target. Now he's making TD catches on Thursday Night Football. This year, people are choosing to dump on Brad Kaaya.

Hopefully, the new coach turns this around fast. It would be nice to appreciate Kaaya while he's still in a Canes uniform.

Hurricane fans may have the lowest football IQ in all of America. Well at least the ones on this board.

 

[wacane]

Fair to say Kaaya has not been what you thought he'd be before the season? Or has the bad oline been too much to overcome?

 

[Gatorhater]

Until we have coaches who we don't complain about, we should leave the players alone. College HCs are dictators. With all power comes all blame.

 

[jackedaround]

Losing for a decade sucks.

In the midst of this pain, Miami fans have picked up a dumb habit. When things go wrong, we blame our good players for "not being as good as we hyped them to be." Then, when these same guys get to the NFL, they turn out to be even better than we ever hoped.

Calais Campbell- Low-motor, plays too high, slow, glorified cheerleader.
Greg Olsen- Soft, chokes in big games, average hands.
Travis Benjamin- Soft, can't run routes.
Allen Bailey- JAG, stiff.
Orlando Franklin- Dumb, belongs in the CFL.

Last year, Duke Johnson was the target. Now he's making TD catches on Thursday Night Football. This year, people are choosing to dump on Brad Kaaya.

Hopefully, the new coach turns this around fast. It would be nice to appreciate Kaaya while he's still in a Canes uniform.

i went to school with calais. nice guy but more committed to drinking and partying than football while in college. he benched 7 reps of 225 at the combine. now he got his act together when he went pro. big shock.

olsen was hated on initially because he came from Notre Dame and was a **** of a lot softer than K2 or shockey.

travis benjamin was similar to roscoe parish. most never hated on him but were frustrated that his speed didnt translate to being unguardable.

fwiw franklin was terrible at UM. he gave up more sacks and had more penalties than any of his the other linemen. constantly false starting or holding. oh and he sucked balls in the superbowl.

 

[jackedaround]

Forgot Lamar Miller. Dude was first rusher to break 1k in long time, and played hurt a couple times. He was soft shoulders to some.

Good point. People still try to downplay him even as he's developed into one of the most explosive backs in the league.

he is a great nfl back. the last year he was injured and was hitting the hole sideways to protect his shoulder. if you couldnt see that you werent watching the game.

 

[hoover437]

Losing for a decade sucks.

In the midst of this pain, Miami fans have picked up a dumb habit. When things go wrong, we blame our good players for "not being as good as we hyped them to be." Then, when these same guys get to the NFL, they turn out to be even better than we ever hoped.

Calais Campbell- Low-motor, plays too high, slow, glorified cheerleader.
Greg Olsen- Soft, chokes in big games, average hands.
Travis Benjamin- Soft, can't run routes.
Allen Bailey- JAG, stiff.
Orlando Franklin- Dumb, belongs in the CFL.

Last year, Duke Johnson was the target. Now he's making TD catches on Thursday Night Football. This year, people are choosing to dump on Brad Kaaya.

Hopefully, the new coach turns this around fast. It would be nice to appreciate Kaaya while he's still in a Canes uniform.

They are young men that need to be coached up. Just look at the coaches that have come thru here during that time, only a several have done anything worthwhile. Unlike, in the past where our coaches, like our players, were killing wherever they went! I have bad for #17 and #3 this year. Kids put in the work yet the staff does not help them. I'm not saying they are the next Lawrence Taylor or Dion Sanders, but them they should have been at least 2 second ACC. They showed great promise early on.

 

[252cane]

Fair to say Kaaya has not been what you thought he'd be before the season? Or has the bad oline been too much to overcome?

How has he been a dissapointment? What do you want the guy to do? It's not like he is out there throwing a ton of picks and missing wide open guys. This offense has struggled throughout golden's time here.

 

[Jassid82]

People just refuse to believe that coaching is the issue. It has to be the players too, right? (I was brainwashed myself I will be honest and admit. Until I saw UF go from a bottom 15 FBS team to being a steroid pill away from being in the BCS playoff. All because of a coaching change. It was that simple.)

There will be a good amount of kids from this year and last years team who will have success in the NFL. Including guys like RScott and DBush who I think will be good NFL players. And guys like Kamulu who will be a guy that scouts wonder how the **** we couldnt get more out of him while he was here. He will do well once he gets REAL coaching in the NFL like ABailey.

 

[wacane]

Fair to say Kaaya has not been what you thought he'd be before the season? Or has the bad oline been too much to overcome?

How has he been a dissapointment? What do you want the guy to do? It's not like he is out there throwing a ton of picks and missing wide open guys. This offense has struggled throughout golden's time here.

Read it again. Slowly if you have to. I never said he's been a disappointment.

 

[252cane]

Fair to say Kaaya has not been what you thought he'd be before the season? Or has the bad oline been too much to overcome?

How has he been a dissapointment? What do you want the guy to do? It's not like he is out there throwing a ton of picks and missing wide open guys. This offense has struggled throughout golden's time here.

Read it again. Slowly if you have to. I never said he's been a disappointment.

I'm just saying man i'm tired of seeing people trash dude for nothing. Nobody ever has legit reason why they have a problem. All i hear is mobility. You don't have to be mobile to play qb.

Give the guy a more open offense. Give him a legit system on offense to run.

 

[Jetsandcanes4life]

Kaaya has been between average and terrible every game this year but FSU. Is some of that on the coaching? No doubt. But I don't know what coaching has to do with his ****** effort on the first fumbled snap, or seeming to have a very passive look on the field and the sideline every time we are getting our **** pushed in. Most people expect their QB's to show some type of leadership.

Kaaya deserves a clean slate with a new coaching staff, but a 1-7 career road record (sorry not counting AT FAU) fans have every right to be a little concerned. Also, our best win in the two years he's been here was a game he didn't start.

 

[WR Cane]

Fair to say Kaaya has not been what you thought he'd be before the season? Or has the bad oline been too much to overcome?

OUR OL is the worst in CFB...even D2. They are beyond pathetic. The Kehoe project has run its course. Get him out. Our OL should be nicknamed "Little sisters of the weak and frail". Not only that they embarrassed themselves with the *** grabbing pics earlier this year. SOFT AS CHARMIN.

 

[JayyJr]

Coaching staff has put too much on his shoulders and he's not ready for it. Difference between last year and this year is that he played from under center, had a blazing fast receiver that got chunk yardage on the outside. He had an elite running back that could make one man miss and score from anywhere on the field. He had a tight end that beat linebackers and made plays in the middle of the field. He was only asked to read one side of the field and throw to the open man or dump off to Johnson.

Now they put him in the shotgun and ask him to read the entire field and beat defenses with his arm, no pass protection, no running game no play action.

 

[prinmemo]

Kaaya has been between average and terrible every game this year but FSU. Is some of that on the coaching? No doubt. But I don't know what coaching has to do with his ****ty effort on the first fumbled snap, or seeming to have a very passive look on the field and the sideline every time we are getting our **** pushed in. Most people expect their QB's to show some type of leadership.

Kaaya deserves a clean slate with a new coaching staff, but a 1-7 career road record (sorry not counting AT FAU) fans have every right to be a little concerned. Also, our best win in the two years he's been here was a game he didn't start.

How do you separate his performance from that of the coaching staff?

Using your logic, we should get another QB and keep Golden.