Benedict Cristobal is gone

[bomb]

So when spring practice starts and Mario is out coaching the kids up on Greentree instead of getting a bigger and more prestigious NFL paycheck are you all going to be saying the same ****?

Not surprised that in your rush to be a holier than thou condescending **** that you missed the point. Perhaps in your world, a guy taking interviews for less than lateral moves a month after being hired by his alma mater is no big deal. Most people don't see it that way.

And not surprised you're jumping off the cliff at first word and whining like a little ****. Lets see how this plays out and find out the real backstory before we cut his brake lines, ok?

It's all Internet and fish wrapper gossip right now with the boards filling in the blanks with conjecture. It all came from a 247 writeup, right? we can agree on that right?

We don't know Golden's perspective. Maybe this is all actually bull****. That IS a possibility right?

Maybe its not working out and Golden told him to look around. Or maybe Golden told him to take the interview and turn Alabama down in order to prop Miami like Ackcane said. ****, maybe he sent him up there to bring back Gonnella and some BBQ!! Not quite ready to cap his knees quite yet. But you go ahead and get frantic and tough on a message board. I'd rather wait and see what pops out before I lose my ****, regardless of the epilogue.

The high-pitched ***gy voice of reason. You think you come off evolved with your "let's wait and see" approach, but you're nothing but a schmoe. How's Saban's ******** taste, bumb?

LULZ at Golden telling Fredo to interview with Alabama and then turn it down. The damage is already done publicly when an alum, who was just hired a month ago, expresses interest in a lateral move. If the point was to make a big public show that he's not interested, he would have done it already.

"***gy" "buthole" "bumb" "schmoe" "fredo"

What are you 13 years old and a short-bus regular?

Congratulations. Way to try to drag the board down. Take a lap, Chachi.

 

[aintnothangbutacane]

I don't know if this has been discussed yet, but maybe the Bama job was something he had an idea that it was going to come open after he was let go at FIU and wanted that job. It didn't come open in a timely fashion, the Miami situation presented itself and not knowing for sure if or when the Bama OL job was going to open up, he took the Miami job because he did not want to lose an ideal consolation prize while waiting on an unkown. Fast forward a month and he goes after what he was dead set on from the beginning, knowing he already has a solid job.

 

[The Franchise]

I'm going to qualify my criticism to an extent. Sounds like he gave AG a heads up. If this was Mario just taking an interview because it bolsters his 'rep' and maybe helps him seem sought after so he's in the mix for future high profile openings, and he doesn't intend to take it, and AG is okay with him doing it, then it's a meh to me. The key is whether AG supported him taking the interview for real (not just on the surface).

However, anyone saying this is 'professional courtesy' to Saban is a moran. You don't owe someone an interview. You can politely decline.

I seriously doubt that Al is good with this act of treason unless he's a total schmoe.

You may be right, but it depends on what their discussion was. I'm having a hard time seeing how Mario taking this interview isn't an insane decision unless he basically told Al hey, I'm going to go meet him, but am not going to take the position seriously, and Al believed him.

Mario making this lateral move at this time shows himself to be a total prick and burns bridges in Miami, which he presumably doesn't want to do, and would know.

Mario taking the interview under circumstances where Al is anything less than comfortable with him doing it, then _not_ taking the Saban job shows himself to be an idiot as he's going to have burnt himself in Al's eyes (who could trust him at that point?). And he should know that.

So my scenarios are Mario's a scumbag, Mario's an idiot, or Al gave him his blessing.

I prefer to think he's not an idiot. So if as expected he doesn't take the job ... well, maybe it just wasn't that big a deal.

Not sure the job was offered to him. But his silence after the interview is deafening. If he truly wasn't serious about taking the job, then he would have shut it down very quickly after the interview.

I'm pretty sure Fredo's a total scumbag (especially in light of all of his dalliances while at fiu and his sudden firing, which isn't probably as one-sidedly dumb as originally thought), and I'm equally pretty sure that Al isn't a schmoe and really has no interest in having the Associate HC that he just hired a month ago run off to suck Saban's dyck. The only thing that comes from that publicly is that Alabama is the better program, and it's so much better that the Associate HC, who is a UM alum and was just hired a month ago, is interviewing there for a lateral move. It's a big deal because it puts UM in a far inferior light publicly.

I can't say you're wrong, just trying to make sense of this.

If Mario doesn't take the Alabama job, he's basically torched as an assistant at UM before he even begins as an assistant at UM. That's weird, ****ed up, and pathetic. Al will think he's a prick. He'll be out recruiting half heartedly, and he'll be gone before next December.

I'm just trying to give the ****wad the benefit of the doubt, I guess. Because if he doesn't deserve it, this is truly lame. The guy's supposed to be all about Miami. His wife is some hottie with seven boyfriends within two blocks of the Hecht Center, and moving her would upset her delicate state of mind. He's got two houses here, just so he doesn't have to sleep in the same house as her when she's with a boyfriend. He's very much a local guy. And he played here, and supposedly has aspirations of longer-term options at the U.

Against all that, this trip to Tuscaloosa makes no sense, unless, as I said, it was okay with Al. Doesn't mean it was. Just means Mario's an idiot if it wasn't (in addition to a prick).

I think you're attempting to ascribe your rational thought processes to someone who might be completely irrational. This dude Fredo could be a complete kook for all we know, and there might be no explanation for his inexplicable behavior. I've learned over the years that sometimes people act a fool, and there's really no logical reason behind it.

Again, I'll point you to the "sudden" and seemingly inexplicable firing at fiu. His 2 dalliances while at UM for a month put a little meat on the fiu bones for me. I have a strong suspicion that if you sat down with Frito Bandito Pete he'd probably make a pretty strong case for why he shytcanned Fredo. Pete was Davis's right-hand man for a long time, and Davis, who is a masterful conniver, regularly praised Pete's intelligence and cunning. I find it odd that Pete fired Fredo for apparently no good reason.

 

[The Franchise]

So when spring practice starts and Mario is out coaching the kids up on Greentree instead of getting a bigger and more prestigious NFL paycheck are you all going to be saying the same ****?

Not surprised that in your rush to be a holier than thou condescending **** that you missed the point. Perhaps in your world, a guy taking interviews for less than lateral moves a month after being hired by his alma mater is no big deal. Most people don't see it that way.

And not surprised you're jumping off the cliff at first word and whining like a little ****. Lets see how this plays out and find out the real backstory before we cut his brake lines, ok?

It's all Internet and fish wrapper gossip right now with the boards filling in the blanks with conjecture. It all came from a 247 writeup, right? we can agree on that right?

We don't know Golden's perspective. Maybe this is all actually bull****. That IS a possibility right?

Maybe its not working out and Golden told him to look around. Or maybe Golden told him to take the interview and turn Alabama down in order to prop Miami like Ackcane said. ****, maybe he sent him up there to bring back Gonnella and some BBQ!! Not quite ready to cap his knees quite yet. But you go ahead and get frantic and tough on a message board. I'd rather wait and see what pops out before I lose my ****, regardless of the epilogue.

The high-pitched ***gy voice of reason. You think you come off evolved with your "let's wait and see" approach, but you're nothing but a schmoe. How's Saban's ******** taste, bumb?

LULZ at Golden telling Fredo to interview with Alabama and then turn it down. The damage is already done publicly when an alum, who was just hired a month ago, expresses interest in a lateral move. If the point was to make a big public show that he's not interested, he would have done it already.

"***gy" "buthole" "bumb" "schmoe" "fredo"

What are you 13 years old and a short-bus regular?

Congratulations. Way to try to drag the board down. Take a lap, Chachi.

I don't like your tone, ***.

 

[The Franchise]

I don't know if this has been discussed yet, but maybe the Bama job was something he had an idea that it was going to come open after he was let go at FIU and wanted that job. It didn't come open in a timely fashion, the Miami situation presented itself and not knowing for sure if or when the Bama OL job was going to open up, he took the Miami job because he did not want to lose an ideal consolation prize while waiting on an unkown. Fast forward a month and he goes after what he was dead set on from the beginning, knowing he already has a solid job.

That's a circuitous route to attempt to explain Fredo's f#ckery. Chip Kelly hired Stoutland away from Alabama last week. I have no idea how Fredo would have had an idea that that gig would be coming open. I don't even think Kelly had the Eagles job when we hired Fredo.

 

[bomb]

Not surprised that in your rush to be a holier than thou condescending **** that you missed the point. Perhaps in your world, a guy taking interviews for less than lateral moves a month after being hired by his alma mater is no big deal. Most people don't see it that way.

And not surprised you're jumping off the cliff at first word and whining like a little ****. Lets see how this plays out and find out the real backstory before we cut his brake lines, ok?

It's all Internet and fish wrapper gossip right now with the boards filling in the blanks with conjecture. It all came from a 247 writeup, right? we can agree on that right?

We don't know Golden's perspective. Maybe this is all actually bull****. That IS a possibility right?

Maybe its not working out and Golden told him to look around. Or maybe Golden told him to take the interview and turn Alabama down in order to prop Miami like Ackcane said. ****, maybe he sent him up there to bring back Gonnella and some BBQ!! Not quite ready to cap his knees quite yet. But you go ahead and get frantic and tough on a message board. I'd rather wait and see what pops out before I lose my ****, regardless of the epilogue.

The high-pitched ***gy voice of reason. You think you come off evolved with your "let's wait and see" approach, but you're nothing but a schmoe. How's Saban's ******** taste, bumb?

LULZ at Golden telling Fredo to interview with Alabama and then turn it down. The damage is already done publicly when an alum, who was just hired a month ago, expresses interest in a lateral move. If the point was to make a big public show that he's not interested, he would have done it already.

"***gy" "buthole" "bumb" "schmoe" "fredo"

What are you 13 years old and a short-bus regular?

Congratulations. Way to try to drag the board down. Take a lap, Chachi.

I don't like your tone, ***.

Great point. You really know your football.

 

[aintnothangbutacane]

I don't know if this has been discussed yet, but maybe the Bama job was something he had an idea that it was going to come open after he was let go at FIU and wanted that job. It didn't come open in a timely fashion, the Miami situation presented itself and not knowing for sure if or when the Bama OL job was going to open up, he took the Miami job because he did not want to lose an ideal consolation prize while waiting on an unkown. Fast forward a month and he goes after what he was dead set on from the beginning, knowing he already has a solid job.

That's a circuitous route to attempt to explain Fredo's f#ckery. Chip Kelly hired Stoutland away from Alabama last week. I have no idea how Fredo would have had an idea that that gig would be coming open. I don't even think Kelly had the Eagles job when we hired Fredo.

Cristobal was fired on the 5th of December, Kelly first flirted with and then turned down the Eagles on January 6th, Cristobal was hired here on January 10th, Kelly takes Eagles job January 16th. It may be unlikely for sure. He could have had an idea all along that Stoutland was Kelly's guy, took the job here when Kelly first turned them down figuring it wasnt happening, then Bama finally opened up a week later. Who knows.

 

[Ethnicsands]

I don't know if this has been discussed yet, but maybe the Bama job was something he had an idea that it was going to come open after he was let go at FIU and wanted that job. It didn't come open in a timely fashion, the Miami situation presented itself and not knowing for sure if or when the Bama OL job was going to open up, he took the Miami job because he did not want to lose an ideal consolation prize while waiting on an unkown. Fast forward a month and he goes after what he was dead set on from the beginning, knowing he already has a solid job.

That's a circuitous route to attempt to explain Fredo's f#ckery. Chip Kelly hired Stoutland away from Alabama last week. I have no idea how Fredo would have had an idea that that gig would be coming open. I don't even think Kelly had the Eagles job when we hired Fredo.

Cristobal was fired on the 5th of December, Kelly first flirted with and then turned down the Eagles on January 6th, Cristobal was hired here on January 10th, Kelly takes Eagles job January 16th. It may be unlikely for sure. He could have had an idea all along that Stoutland was Kelly's guy, took the job here when Kelly first turned them down figuring it wasnt happening, then Bama finally opened up a week later. Who knows.

You --------------------------------------------------------------> Straws

 

[jerzeycane]

I don't know if this has been discussed yet, but maybe the Bama job was something he had an idea that it was going to come open after he was let go at FIU and wanted that job. It didn't come open in a timely fashion, the Miami situation presented itself and not knowing for sure if or when the Bama OL job was going to open up, he took the Miami job because he did not want to lose an ideal consolation prize while waiting on an unkown. Fast forward a month and he goes after what he was dead set on from the beginning, knowing he already has a solid job.

Then you DON'T. TAKE. THE JOB.

Tell em "Thanks, but no thanks". Don't use Miami as a safety net for whatever other career aspirations you might have. Sorry, there's no getting around that.

Now Al's *** is hanging in the wind because this guy had another job in mind all along? Did Cristobal communicate this to Al when he was interviewing?

Whole situation stinks. If your woman got eyes for some other *****, who's taken, but decides she'll be with you because she got issues with being alone or whatever other ridiculous reason, and then dumps you for the other dude, when he becomes available...you wouldn't feel slighted? Come on dog. I, myself, am cutting bait EEMEEJETLY. Ain't no room for feminine behavior in this organization mane

And how you think this makes the other coaches on the staff feel? There's guys on the staff right now who have been putting in work from the start of the Golden regime, are making less than Cristobal is, and now have to watch this dude dance with Bama? Corny

 

[-Blazed-]

I haven't read the last 6-8 pages but like I said earlier Bama pays more.

### An associate of Mario Cristobal pointed to a significant salary increase as one reason for his interest in the Alabama offensive line coaching job. Cristobal interviewed Friday.

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy

 

[-Blazed-]

Also lol at these conspiracy theories. It is all part of Golden's plan or Coley is ******** us. Lol at him not getting a shot at Miami job once Golden leaves because he took the O-Line job at Bama. The guy wants to get paid I can't hate. I hope he does leave btw.

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

ON CRISTOBAL'S UM FUTURE: Newly hired Hurricanes assistant Mario Cristobal interviewing for Alabama's O-line job surprised no one at UM, least of all Al Golden. A source on the staff tells us Cristobal made it very clear in taking the job that he wants another head-coaching position as soon as possible, and knows that won't be at Miami if Golden's committment is as solid as it seems. Cristobal seeks a stepping stone, and being on Nick Saban's championship staff is about the best place for any upwardly mobile assistant to be.

Read more here: http://blogs.herald.com/random_evid...owing-the-all-star-break-2.html#storylink=cpy

 

[weownfsu]

The Herald loves to make no sense at all.

 

[deep-sea diver]

I have a hard time faulting anyone for moving around in college coaching jobs nowadays, especially when he's not a coordinator or HC. There's just so much turnover in D-1 athletics, it's hard not to take the best job available to you. He's just jumping on his best opportunity.

 

[Ispyin]

If he goes:


- he has to do what he has to do. I understand it even if I disagree withi it and don't like. All valid reasons aside, I think it's wrong with his connections to miami to leave a gig after a month. Yet if my salary might be doubled, I might have no choice either for my family and future to do it.


- disagree with those that say he may one day come back as hc even if he leaves. I think that even though rational people will understand the choice he makes, the same rational people may not want him back here in the future as a fallout from a decision like that. Both admin and as importantly donors may be just ready to move on from him period. As a donor, that would be my feeling, and if you don't think donor feelings are a factor in overall decisions, you are wrong. Donna named Blake as an example, and clearly booster response to how he handled himself in interim phase helped.

If money was such a factor for Mario, which I get and is a big deal to most, he should not have taken the job or should have taken the nfl gigs that were said to be on the table and that he turned down to go to um. Though this may be a rational decision, those same rational decisions to instead jump to nfl would have given him the money without damaging um. Yes a cane is a cane for life, but that doesn't mean what you do after being a cane isn't a factor on whether you can be a cane in a new role. Mario will clearly put a return engagement down the road in serious jeopardy. If not outright destroyed it.

 

[wushah]

That's bull****. Staffs get hot all the time. Miami wins the ACC, and Mario is in play everywhere.

If he's smart, then he stays, builds some good currency here at UM, and then takes over at a Louisville-esque place ala Charlie Strong. The ultimate plan would be to come back after Golden leaves after winning 2 championships. The Miami way.

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

That's bull****. Staffs get hot all the time. Miami wins the ACC, and Mario is in play everywhere.

If he's smart, then he stays, builds some good currency here at UM, and then takes over at a Louisville-esque place ala Charlie Strong. The ultimate plan would be to come back after Golden leaves after winning 2 championships. The Miami way.

Lot of "ifs" in that plan. IF our D can somehow improve, and IF our new OC doesn't ***** things up, and IF we can win our division, and IF the NCAA doesn't clobber us, and IF we can win the ACC...

Versus going straight to work on the staff of a team that has won 3 of the last 4 NCs and will likely be the hands-on favorite for next year too.

 

[4Canes]

19 pages of this siht, SMH.

 

[BigCaneAl]

Heard an interesting tidbit regarding Cristobal's pay....FIU pays his salary up to his rate as HC at FIU. So for example, if he makes 200k here, FIU then pays the difference up to the rate he made at FIU. Would it surprise anyone if he was severely underpaid here....knowing FIU picks up the difference no matter what? Another thing, Stoutland was making 390k at Alabama, why is Mario worth over 500k all of a sudden as an oline coach?

 

[Ispyin]

Heard an interesting tidbit regarding Cristobal's pay....FIU pays his salary up to his rate as HC at FIU. So for example, if he makes 200k here, FIU then pays the difference up to the rate he made at FIU. Would it surprise anyone if he was severely underpaid here....knowing FIU picks up the difference no matter what? Another thing, Stoutland was making 390k at Alabama, why is Mario worth over 500k all of a sudden as an oline coach?

Normal contract situation when a coach is fired mid contract